Amazing what fits in your pockets, lol.

Apparently in the first drafts there were two other ta'veren from Emond's Field, Dannil and Llewin, iirc, but Jordan was persuaded by the editing team to remove them.

Neither part. Of course there hardly needs to be a divide. Though in other news, Lady Grey is much nicer than Earl Grey. Probably a lot more difficult to get but it is a much lighter tea with a mellow flavour compared to the fairly bitter tea used in Earl Grey. If anyone can get a hold of it, it is highly recommended.

Heresy! Bah, you can never find a pitch fork and torch when you need one in a hurry.

Yeah respect is paramount when dealing with beings that might haunt you for the rest of your natural life.

I just want to know what the one final question is, and are we actually Columbo trying to solve a case.

I think we should talk to the spirits. It's lonely in here, lol. Then activate the mechanism, and go further.

Oh my word, it is from 1990. I think u would have said older... Though thinking about it I only went to secondary school in 1989, so maybe I'm just forgetting when things happened. I suppose that is what you have to expect at this age.

Ooph, oldskool Ithi 🙂 back when the kids were rocking to Gregorian chants.

Meditating is working, I'd say we keep that up. But we could riot, that sounds like fun.

FROGGIES!

I thought Tylin was confusing. Perhaps deliberately so, so each individual reader can take what they want out of it. On one hand you see from Mat's point of view that he doesn't mind the chasing, except it should be him that should be doing the chasing. For that to work, Tylin should only be using the tactics that Mat would have used, which doesn't seem to be the case. On the other, we have a case of dubious consent, where Mat does consent but just wants to assert dominance that slides very much into non-consent while playing it for laughs. Neither of these things seems conducive to seriously exploring the issue. Especially as it seems to rely on "he enjoyed it, it wasn't assault" argument that surrounds any discussion of female on male assault, even when we talking about children. I can only hope Jordan was wanting to hold up a mirror to the gender reversal to see what people saw of themselves in it rather than it being a serious attempt at discussion.

I don't quite see why Demandred as swordsman became such a theme at the end. Demandred was already set up as the tactical genius that it needed Mat's unparalleled ability to defeat. But Mat didn't, Demandred was dead before Mat started any of his questionable maneuvers and three duels in the middle of the battle makes no sense to me. He was also set up as a parallel to Rand in Shara, something that was interesting but hardly explored as it was a bit late by the time it was introduced. I think this is something that was missed. If we knew more about Dark Prophecy, it could have made a lot more sense in the story as the you could see that both sets of Prophecy were pushing everyone to the same conclusion - it doesn't make sense in world that Shadow aligned foretelling, etc., would be wrong and Light aligned right. It would explain some of the more difficult to understand parts where the Shadow did not seem to go for an easy early victory, but were actually trying to set up the same victory conditions that Rand and Co. were. But certainly I was not a big fan of Demandred and his Sharans being both a major game changing plot twist, and actually having no effect on the story.

I think everyone is just bracing for a rested and prepared Z to come out of the blocks.

I'm suspicious that all the options would be positive... But I'll vote meditate. And of course others can disagree, we don't all have to vote alike.

Will something bad happen if we try 1 and it is not enough? It told us straight out last time that we didn't have the ability. Does that mean we do now? There doesn't seem to be any downsides to continuing to meditate or any option like that. Or am I naive for suggesting that will continue?

Dyke

Tulip

Mud

I don't think it was explicit either way, though it did come across as horrifically violent. He also did not warn the guy off as I remember, which surely would be part of just beating him up. Otherwise what happens when he turns up at work a few days later? But I think it is filmed amiguously enough that you can fill your own details in.

It hasn't mentioned hidden traps until now. I feel there might be a reason for that.

Hi Stormy, and welcome to Dragonmount. There is definitely a lot to be discussed about the books and many different opinions. Like I struggle to think of a single thing about the ending that I liked, but I'm really happy to know that so many people did love it. Look forward to seeing your thoughts on the forums 🙂

Cloak

Moustache

Hidden mechanisms and sigils sound like a bit of foreshadowing of things to come. Probably we should play it safe first, and then head for pressure? Does seem like the option that would be most useful?