Yet they did it with Egwene and Nynaeve. Egwene literally healed a husk of a shell of a burned out Nynaeve and then went back to novice. Nynaeve pulled galaxies together and bubble healed an entire room and then back to struggling. But hey we cant let Rand show any power, he is only the Dragon Reborn.

Yep... "if we had 2 more episodes we could have flushed out what the Horn really is and how important it is"... meanwhile Rafe gets 2 more episodes and we get to see Lan taking a dump while talking to Alanna.

I really liked seeing Liandrin's book ending. I am hoping the show leans into her evil now that her son is dead and it is a just punishment.

I was always concerned about how it could be adapted to tv and while animation is a way, it was never the way I preferred. The one thing I can definitely give the amazon show credit for, they proved it can be done on tv.

Yeah, to clarify I meant when he was writing the last 3 books, since that is the canon they will (wont) be basing the show.

I mean, yeah... you have a guy who studied physics, was a nuclear engineer, served 2 tours in vietnam where he was awarded medals for his actions who wrote the books, compared to a guy who was really just getting his toes wet in the industry, compared to a guy who did some editing on survivor who thinks he is a better writer than the 2 aforementioned.

It is all about context. Millions of people never miss a WWE event. They absolutely love it. Millions more line up to watch the new Fast and Furious. Look at all the money the Transformers movies made... most people who watch something want to sit back, turn off their brains, and enjoy the explosions. That is how you have to watch WoT. Turn off your brain, dont think too deeply, and enjoy the explosions.

you cant use the word consistent with the show. that is the last thing the show is.

Yeah, now that I am much older in life, I have said more than once, if I had started reading the books right now, I dont know if I would have made it through book 1. Fantasy was an entirely different thing back in 91 though, basically you had LOTR rip-offs and Book 1 fell into the same trap as so much more other fantasy did during that time period.

Another big arc they skipped in season 2 (book 3) was Rand's ta'veren. In the books we get to see how he effected the pattern just by being there. Every village he went through showed the effect of his ta'veren, both the good and the bad, and the balance between the two. in WoT, Ta'veren is the plot armor. Ta'veren is how they could overcome what would seemingly be impossible odds. Especially with them together and how important it was for them to be together so their combined Ta'veren would have the most effect. Most non-book readers dont even know what it is.

My issue is, why do we have to be on a forum coming up with all types of possibilities of why and how when even the best "reasons" are flimsy? The writers are making a lot of money to write good material, not minimal, good enough, get er done, material. This is a writer issue, great writers would come up with a scenario where the watchers went "oh my goodness! that was amazing". Because they were not copying from the book, they could have came up with something much more consistent that didnt flaunt the "rules"... Same with Moraine and her mega-power at the end. If they were going to give her this amazing mega-power, why not snap the flows of the shield, hell let Rand have a moment where he blasts out massive fireballs at the ships as soon as the shield snaps. Nynaeve could have gotten pissed finally and hurled a ball of fire. Just too many ways for them to have written it better but they settled for something less than great. Get er done!

Once again, I enjoyed season 2 and have re-watched it and will re-watch it again. I never re-watched season 1 and will never re-watch season 1. Even enjoying it, I definitely have complaints and they definitely have room for a lot of improvement. What I dont like, both in season 1 and 2, is that they add story like Moiraine's shield, and then they neglect other arcs like Ingtar's redemption. I think Ingtar's redemption is a huge part of the books. How far is too far gone, can a dark friend be redeemed? It also gives us hope when we find out about Verin. I get they needed to do something with Moiraine, but having Rand cross paths with Ingtar and Ingtar confessing with the Dragon saying "I think just wanting to is enough" and the peace that comes over Ingtar as the Jesus version of Rand washed his sins away. It was still good, just not great. On one of the reaction videos, someone made a good point about books like WoT compared to books like ASoIaF. WoT has a complicated and consistent magic system with hard set rules that can be hard for a tv show to not screw up. Where as, books like ASoIaF have magic that no one knows the rules, not even those doing the magic. It is a lot easier to use magic as a plot device when you have no idea what is possible.

No RJ did not say "hey I can spread this out over 14 books, this will be fun!" He didnt know if the publishers would continue the series, so he had to write with "ending points" just in case. This has been talked about plenty. Once the books were popular enough that his books were guaranteed to continue being published he transitioned into "his" story.

The big glaring hole with the Ishamael thing was the fact Ishamael KNOWS the DO isnt going to just let him go but immediately spin him back out. Nothing about it made sense except they needed Ishamael to die without giving Rand enough power or taveren to do it. So they came up with some really silly BS that they want fans to just accept, dont ask questions, and move on... The show is enjoyable, but once again, it will never be great because the writers dont care if it is great, good enough is good enough for them.

It doesnt matter if the fans dont know, Ishy knows he will be resurrected so the whole "Ishy let him kill him because Ishy wants to die" is not valid. Ishy did not let Rand kill him because he wanted to die, he knew dying wasnt changing anything. So it was basically just stupid.

Yet, killing one of the forsaken doesnt give them the final death... he needs the wheel broken. The dark one controls the grave and there is no escape for Ishy except for breaking the wheel entirely. Rafe read the books, Rafe didnt understand the books. He barely scratches the surface and it is easy to see. Rafe was the wrong person to take on this series and if it makes it to season 4 it will be shocking. Looks like they will be wrapping it up in season 3 to me.

well they did spend an entire episode proving how a damane cannot do anything to the suldam that hey considered to be an attack or damaging... so the whole thing was completely BS, but I am sure they are saying "dont think dont think dont think dont think" over and over hoping their audience are as stupid as the writers are. While there are some good things in the series, there are a lot more holes and bad things in the series. I will be shocked to my core if they approve a season 4.

D) or writing doesnt allow us to know if it is an oversight, screw up, or just lack of detail. There has been way too much of that so far, so it could be any of the above.

Rafe is 100% proof that someone can read the books, love them, be entertained by them, and not understand them at all. It's the small details that make a show great. It is hard to see this show ever being great because they never get the small details. I still liked season 2, but my expectations of this being an all-time great show is at a minimum.

Ingtar left a bad taste in my mouth that carried through the rest of the episode. I think the question of can a darkfriend be saved was an important arc that Ingtar answered. I liked the Heroes of the Horn and even the Mat "I remember" line. Nice to see Lan do something other than fail. Lanfear playing her own games is fun. Liked that Egwene freed herself but you cant ask too many questions or it just falls apart. Take it at face value that Egwene rescued herself, Hopper, so sad. Fighting scenes were a letdown. Moiraine somehow became the most powerful Aes Sedai in millions of years. Ishamael died so easily it was a letdown. Moghedian was great and I wanted to see more immediately.

Yep, season 1 was so terribly bad (long before Mat's actor left) that I had no intentions at all of watching season 2. Thank goodness my daughter started watching it in the living room and I was "forced" to have it in the background. It didnt take long before I turned away from the game I was playing on the pc and started watching it. Then after she went to sleep I went back to the beginning of season 2 and rewatched the first 3 episodes. Season 2 is night and day different from season 1, which is kind of funny when you look back at all the people defending season 1 when it was playing. Season 1 was an atrocity.

I know this makes it sound too easy, but it is true nonetheless, the wheel would not have allowed Rand to be killed or turned at that point. Bad things would have happened to anyone who tried.

No they would not... why because you say so? A flashback is just that, a flashback. It would have told the same thing... Moiraine and Siuan heard the Dragon Reborn was born. Gitara died... 2 other people including the Amyrlin heard it. Next scene.... I am sure people would ask well what happened to those other 2, same as they asked what was going on with the Lews Therin flashback. WAFO.

Well, at least all the Browns show up for his classes. Blues chose not to and now they are all ignorant.

It appears to me they used some crappy writing to get around by making Siuan give her a formal command by citing "I am the Amyrlin and you have sworn oaths to obey me so you must obey me and I command you as the Amyrlin seat to do as I have commanded you" and abunch of other malarkey. In theory, the moment Siuan said "close the waygate" Moiraine would have had to close the waygate and not say no, and dont make me and blah blah blah...