Did Fain know that Perrin was in Emond’s Field? I forget if he observed him directly. Because if he knew that someone was there that could identify him as a darkfriend, why lead the double cross?!?

Lipstick on a pig. But hey, girl power.

Yeah, that pretty much sums up the sad state of this show. We will see what happens next week - we’ve all been warned that it’s “controversial.” That last two season finales have been nonsensical dumpster fires that were like a greatest hits of the writers’ bad ideas so get ready for a reassessment.

I think part of the reason we didn’t like him as much in the book was his pursuit of Egwene and that’s just a non-factor here.

Yes, I got a little chill for that whole sequence where Faile convinces him to rally his people and he goes out and grabs the hammer. That was fun.

The books offer an answer. There isn’t a problem with the black ajah seemingly breaking the oath. My issue is someone making up some excuse that because they are darkfriends, or because they really, really want to, they can just override the oath rod. That would be a dumb as them saying is a Damane really really wanted to she could get herself out of bondage…*crickets*

I simply felt like there needed to be a little more to the scene. It ended up being a little bit like Rand slowly standby Ishy in that Valda ran into the channelers and then just kind of stood there doing nothing. He wasn’t in the main battle precisely because he was hunting down Alanna, so what as his plan? He certainly didn’t seem to have one. On top of his complete impotence, the acting from Alanna was terrible where she was struggling to live then immediately got her act together and propped herself up, and the girls channeling with ease continues to be ridiculous. It was a lazy scene and could have been executed better to the same end.

The misuse of wolves and Luc is pretty bad. I’m guessing next season there will be something there, but who knows.

It’s got to be Aviendha next week, right? She’s the only one who hasn’t been mortally wounded yet, I think. Well, maybe Moiraine, I don’t remember, but she should have another arc. Lan already died in S1, so probably not him. Avi it is.

But the oath still bind her. “I will not be a darkfriend” is not an oath. That’s just completely made up lore pulled from the ether to justify the show’s writing.

Why not?

I don’t mind him dying, I just thought the scene was sloppy.

It’s also appropriate comeuppance considering his burning to death was as the hands of the girls whose mother he burned to death. I thought the scene was really sloppy but sure, I guess there’s some meaning there.

If you even get knicked by the SL dagger, you die a horrific death. They established it in the show. Then Loial got stabbed by it. How is that a debunked myth? Just because the writers are so bat they can’t keep their own story straight doesn’t mean we have to pretend like the show has no rules.

At this point, don’t discount the writers making her a Force ghost or something…

You don’t need to let it go. The writing in this show is amateur at best and this whole playing fast and loose with injuries and healing is asinine and just one of hundreds of examples that this team doesn’t deserve this story.

I agree completely that it is both eye-rolling and a complete fumble where it comes to using the phrases already created for this world, but it also comes across as juvenile immature. It couldn’t be more clear that someone in the chain of production really wanted to tap in to the GoT vibes with its violence, sex, and language, but at the same time they seem to want to keep their TV-14 rating to draw in as many viewers as possible by veiling their nudity and cursing in subtitles and stuff like that. It’s like seeing a 12-year-old acting touch on the playground but then looking around for the adults and whispering a curse.

Yeah, the editing wasn’t great, there was certainly some confusion between sides, and they used all the cheap A/V tricks to cover up any blemishes like fast cuts, shaky camera, dark scenes, etc. I could forgive all that if they didn’t butcher the show in so many other ways. Speaking of the battle, I love how Perrin had to yell at the archers to take out the trollocs that were breaching the defenses. What would they have done if he hadn’t yelled at them? Just stood there? More brilliant writing.

Haha, wasn’t expecting that, but the show keeps delivering the unintended comedy. We can all digest this episode and then speculate for the next…

- Maybe I don’t watch enough fantasy but I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a battle axe sheathed like Bornhold’s. As someone who keeps his hatchets sheathed, it was good to see. Also impractical, though, when in a battle zone. - Why in God’s name is Maksim in this show? There are hundreds of characters in the book, most of whom are getting cut for this adaptation, and they pick a throwaway name and turn him into a main character. Every scene he is in is pointless and bad. - Cursing in hand speak was cringe. - More deus ex channeler. Stupid. - Did Alanna ask to be healed…with the spear still in her? - How did Valda see the weaves? And what an awfully acted, awfully written, anti-climatic scene to remove him from the show. - Considering that Loial was Jordan’s stand-in in the story, it is very fitting that this fan fiction killed him off (again). - Alanna lived…again…seriously, this show is a joke.

Your quoted definition neither states nor even implies that all partners need have a romantic relationship with each other, merely that there is informed consent.

Min seems really cold in this show, too. I know the hardest hearts can be moved to love, but she’s not likable enough for me to view her as a love interest yet, especially considering how different she is personality-wise from the book. I also find it interesting that Rand has had romantic relations with both Egwene and Lanfear. He don’t have those in the books so the 3 women were fairly obvious. It’s much more ambiguous here.

It’s legally possibly, for what it’s worth. Some licenses can be structured to allow assumption, or a license can always be renegotiated. But you are correct that it could take significant time.

I mean, they are seemingly in a position to bargain with Amazon, who has demonstrated that they are willing to spend billions on a show. I’m not saying they are saints but I also couldn’t fault them if they’re trying to structure a more lucrative deal.

The longing….cured by being in a stedding…of which they build waystones on the border…through which Loial just travelled…