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S3E4 - The Road to the Spear
king of nowhere replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
Not really. Books 5 to 11, rand goes from the aiel waste to taking cahirien and caemlin, fighting the seanchan around ebou dar, founding the black tower, having adventures in far madding. There are all the arcs with the shaido, the andoran succession, the bowl of winds, mat escaping ebou dar, the tower split... Some people like to pretend those books don't exhist, but all the main characters have major story lines and development. You can't cut them and start with book 12. Even if you wanted to condense, you'd have to invent new plots to justify the differences in the characters. I'm sure you guys would LOVE an entire season of made-up material to cover everything from books 5 to 11. As for all the arms folding and sniffing, it only takes 1 line of text to write that. Remove all such instances from the books, you cut maybe 5 pages. Remove flowery descriptions, you remove another 100 pages for each book, maybe 150. Stilll a lot of plot. If you dismiss half the books as "nothing really happens besides hair-pulling", you don't realize how big the story is -
S3E4 - The Road to the Spear
king of nowhere replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
This must be stressed out. Time is a huge issue, and a lot of cool stuff has to be sacrificed for it. If we get 8 season for 14 books + new spring, that's almost 2 books per season. At 800 pages per book, an episode must adapt 200 pages. Rhuidean was what, 50 pages in the books? Something like that? And they had to spend a full episode on it. And they still had to cut half the visions. -
How different is too different?
king of nowhere replied to SingleMort's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
Will be almost impossibile. We are approachimg the slog, and we have 5 seasons left for 10 books. The writers will have to cut more plots. And then they will have to invent new plots to give the main characters something to do and convey the same major plot points. It won't be possibile to follow the books closely. At best, they will be able to keep the occasional pivotal scene, like they did with rhuidean -
How different is too different?
king of nowhere replied to SingleMort's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
is it just me seeing what i want to see, or is the show coming closer to the books? the rhuidean episode is taken very closely from the books, and the whole first half of the season bears a lot more similarity to the fourth book than the other season. -
S3E4 - The Road to the Spear
king of nowhere replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
i don't see much room for confusion. many people die without children. whole families are erased. meanwhile, with growing number of generations everyone is related to everyone else if we move back far enough. so the idea that blood relation would be needed for reincarnation wouldn't work. it doesn't justify anything. any sane person would think nothing of an oath your ancestors made 3000 years ago. but those are aiel. they are the definition of honor before reason. -
S3E4 - The Road to the Spear
king of nowhere replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
in the books, the lake is created when a subsequent fight cracks the ground. there's plenty of groundwater underneath the waste. -
S3E4 - The Road to the Spear
king of nowhere replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
if the show gets deleted tomorrow, i will be happy i got this episode. it was everything i could hope for. well, i was hoping we'd see a bit more of the age of legends and the breaking of the world, but that will do. the hole in the sky was chilling. the wall of spears, with the "leave your weapons here, you will take them back if you return" gives a very strong sense of how much time has passed, and how many aiel died because they couldn't bear the secrets of rhuidean. the corpses littering the columns are also a deviation from the books that works perfectly. -
S3E2:A Question of Crimson - Discussion
king of nowhere replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
i didn't notice at first, but on rewatching I'm seeing that every time someone new meets "gaebril", they pause for a few seconds... then they act again as if they've known him for years. those few seconds are the time for compulsion, of course. well done. -
spoilers S3E1 - Discussion / Global Fan Event
king of nowhere replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
Outside of work hours, she is in the white tower majorette club -
spoilers S3E1 - Discussion / Global Fan Event
king of nowhere replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
Which also make little sense. They are just standing there around siuan. Heal her, weave a shield, or get out of the way. -
spoilers S3E1 - Discussion / Global Fan Event
king of nowhere replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
i don't know how i missed it previously, but i just noticed that alanna was one of the green sitters. she was there at the battle in the hall, when five black sisters won against a dozen others. then the surviving four blacks were joined by others, and then alanna faced them all alone. and she was more effective than all the others in the hall before. really. alanna alone can fight seven black sisters, but alanna plus a dozen others can't handle five. it's completely inconsistent. it's illogical. it's also completely unnecessary. there was no need for that scene. -
Wheel of Time Season 3 - Full Season Discussion
king of nowhere replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
i second this idea. occam's razor and all that; saying "a foresaken did it" is just a lot simpler than explaining bubbles of evil. -
Is Aes Sedai power creep a problem?
king of nowhere replied to Mirefox's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
Cutting people in two with air is not hard. Actually, i'd say the worst power creep was the destruction of the trollocs in the end of S1. Healing is also too effective; seems like everyone has the improved healing that nyn invented halfway through the books. I don't think it will be a big issue. Everyone being able to heal may be, though -
Wheel of Time Season 3 - Full Season Discussion
king of nowhere replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
Maybe. Maybe not. Something divisive elicits much more discussion than something universally liked. Most of those 8 pages in the first season were massive arguments between supporters and detractors of the show. There are very few detractors for S3, so less arguments. That said, i fear a lackluster first season may be an insurmontable obstacle. I doubt new viewers will pop in just for season 3, if they didn't watch S1 and 2 before. Or if they stopped watching after S1. -
spoilers S3E1 - Discussion / Global Fan Event
king of nowhere replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
You mean, more stupid than taking a stroll through shadar logoth? Yeah, they never do anything that brash in the books Not exactly working together, but the books do have similar moments of the "we can't fight her, she's not killing us at the moment, let's just play along". Remember that rand worked with asmodean, and moiraine knew and did nothing about it -
Wheel of Time Season 3 - Full Season Discussion
king of nowhere replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
season 2 was a marked step up over season 1, and season 3 has improved over that. this is wonderful -
lanfear mentions sakarnen as a female sa'angreal. does this mean there is no choedan kal? will rand cleanse the source with only callandor? doesn't seem enough. the healing waves that the yellows were trying to heal mat were the best channeling cgi yet. elaida is badass. they absolutely succeeded in painting her as a skilled politician with only a handful of scenes.
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S3E2:A Question of Crimson - Discussion
king of nowhere replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
morgase is a lot more bloodthirsty in this version. i wonder how it will shape the future of the story. i expect her to be killed for real at the end of the season, though. perhaps it will give the wronged houses some stronger reasons to resist elayne during the succession. and gaebril cannot be one of the foresaken, as siuan refers to him with familiarity, he's been prince consort for a time. maybe a foresaken will take his place. i have to say, the weirdest part of the whole show is the different enforcement of discipline in the white tower. accepted that can leave the tower, novices that can take men in their rooms, talking to aes sedai with familiarity.... it's actually a much nicer environment. makes it harder to believe that 20% of them swore to the shadow -
spoilers S3E1 - Discussion / Global Fan Event
king of nowhere replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
the episode was overall great. and it felt like the books, more than the previous seasons, despite obvious changes. i'm super thrilled i was a bit wtf when alanna went alone against a half dozen blacks and almost won. however, i can't get mad at her for doing the one thing i always blamed the aes sedai for not doing: training. alanna clearly is a trained fighter, unlike most women in the tower who are just powerful. still, 1 v 6 is a bit too much. well, she did lose in the end. not too thrilled about that scene, but i can live with it. the other criticism i have of the episode is elayne and aviendha. i was fully expecting the script to bring her relationship to fully romantical (in the book they are only a very short step from that), but i was also expecting it would take a lot more time. the elayne-aviendha relationship, in fact, is one of the best, in saga that's generally mediocre on relationships. elayne and aviendha build up trust and intimacy over time, having them go full lesbian after a relatively short time together loses on that. so it's not a matter of the destination, but how they got there. - rand and perrin were playing snakes and foxes, so they are keeping at least some parts of that plotline. - maiden's kiss was a lot of fun. for bain and chiad, mostly. - the bubble of evil was well executed, even if it was mostly lanfear's doing. i wonder if it means no genuine bubbles of evil in this turning of the wheel. - i was expecting to see more of egwene's accepted test, but we got the relevant concept. - jaycim carridin keeps his name, but he's unlikely to be a children of the light while also being a gray men. -
S2E8 has highs and lows. let's see CON fight coreographies, pretty bad most of the time. PRO perrin actually killing bornhald, it's got potential to work the conflict with dain a lot better than "my father charged into the fog and got blown up by damane, I'm sure it's all your fault somehow" CON everything regarding egwene as damane is wrong. really, renna, just stop threatening and cut her tongue already PRO bornhald had an actual battle plan, and it was a pretty good one. he also gave a good speech before, showing what the children of the light are at their best. CON egwene holding off ishi for so long. i remember months ago arguing that it was fitting for her to be able to hold for a time, but on rewatch, i think it's just too long. besides, ishi could just cut that shield with spirit. CON the way the seanchan soldiers keep charging the heroes of the horn. really, a bunch of mist coalesces into people midair, and you just keep charging? PRO mat creating the ashandarei. others criticized the scene, but i liked the piece of out-of-the-box thinking. CON elayne healing rand from the shadar logoth wound. it's an extremely difficult wound, and elayne (leaving aside that she sucks at healing, that's the kind of details they can change in the show) is untrained. really, there was nynaeve right there, she's established as the best healer, let her embrace the source just long enough to heal rand. endings are complicated, and they have been the weakest parts of both seasons. of the first three books, as well. hopefully it will get better as the books themselves improve on the endings
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sure, bela could reach the white tower from falme in a few minutes travel and defeat the black ajah while she's there, but for her imperscrutable equine reasons she let her human attendants believe they are doing all the job. a regular horse, though, is much slower than a ship over long distances.
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Global Fan Event for WOT hosted by Amazon/MGM on March 8
king of nowhere replied to Kaleb's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
i can't see the episode. i have the email regularly, but the link to season 3 only shows the "making of". was it something that was streaming, and can't be reloaded? i had important business to attend earlier, and was hoping to catch up later. if that's the case, i'll just see the episode next weekend. actually, thinking on it, i have important business next weekend too. well, i'll watch it soon enough -
agree on that, it's very irrealistic as swordplay, but can fit if they are showing off. from the clip of gawyn and galad with mat watching, they arrived in the tower and they had been in the tower for at least a few days. they had to testify against liandrin, anyway. then there was the battle, and they decided to leave again. makes sense. and traveling by ship is faster and cheaper than traveling by land, so it makes sense they'd take the ship instead of using the road through maradon and the borderlands.
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S2E5, halfway around the episode moiraine is bare-shouldered, and she still has a scar from where she was hit in S1E1. nice attention to detail.
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how? i don't see anythin in my prime video how not? take the boat at falme, go around the continent all the way to tear, go up the river erinin to tar valon. a month also looks quite right as time, on a fast boat. which you get, if you have an aes sedai with any skill at air on board.