I see what you did there and I cackled out loud. ❤️

Then my apologies for doing it to almost everybody this game. I bold lines to then respond to them while keeping the rest of the quote for context all the time. If that's not ok, let me know and I'll find another way.

I'm torn on your (completely legit and logical) plan to lynch the counter wagon to me from D1 and the crashout RTE had that screams town to me. It is close-ish to the situation I had on JN where I was sussing a player that then had a meltdown and self voted. I backed off and it turns out he was faking it all and was scum. If you feel the need to follow through on your legit and logical plan, you'll get no argument from me.

Is the bold the only change she made?

We can't take the time to policy lynch anybody who got upset and/or self-voted. A line needs to be drawn and followed. I think in most cases what RTE did comes from a townie and not scum. I know that's part of my own policy, but it's where I'm drawing a line. Heavy sorta falls in there, too, but is a new player so I am trying to be more loose in my interpretation there.

Yeah, there is pretty much no way Lenlo and Heavy are both scum. One can be, but not both.

I'm trying to consider if scum!Lenlo would be hard defending a teammate here or not. It's been too long, I have no idea.

Please, if you don't mind, post a concise case on why you think Dice could be scum. Try to keep it short and sweet.

I never said Heavy is ok to go for, just that I'm considering still based on the null read post as I find that super scummy. That's all.

If a townie sees a confirmed townie confident in a solve, is sheeping them an awful decision?

It was my reaction to gameplay. You can't count it as AtE because the whole point of AtE is to sway votes. I'm already cleared. So it's just my little bit of frustration, yes. So IMO it is meaningfully different, but you are free to disagree and that's cool.

You have a very sharp wit, I love it.

I don't have a specific Dice read, I'm sheeping Zander on it as he's also confirmed town. And just look at POE options, it's not crazy to have him in there. Or Turin. Or you.

I very much respect this stance. I hope you can also respect mine, as it differs slightly, but has the same impact. If mafia has become a game where we gauge each other's tantrums to see if it's true or not, then this game has passed me by and it's time to really give it up. I already have kids, I'm not going to read tantrums in games, too.

Let me elaborate. I was taught this game and mentored by Kivam. When somebody gets really upset and looks like they want to quit, to me that's too much. I don't want people that upset, so it impacts my thinking of them. This is a game about lying, but it's still just a game. If people look like they are legit upset and want to quit, to lie about that (for me) is outside the spirit of the game.

First part: I totally understand it probably looks like a bad policy. To be honest, it's now a way I identify people I'm willing to play with. If you get emotional and self vote to essentially quit and it was all a ruse and you're scum, I don't want to play with you. That's my rule, it doesn't have to be anybody else's. Second part: I didn't put Cairos in POE because I forgot about him until after, and I included that tidbit instead of changing my post. And yes, I have Turin in there - that's why I said "practically". 😉

Understood. It's just a convenient way for scum to read teammates, so when I see it my ears twitch. All I said was that I now consider you, but you haven't reached my WTL (want to lynch) list yet.

RTE is not getting lynched today, at least not by me. I explained my zero tolerance AtE stance, and whether you agree or not - it's there. And you're open to Dice, not a fan of Gud, and ready to lynch Cairos. All people I listed in my POE, but you don't get half the reads? Isn't that practically ALL of the reads outside of you?

I'm gonna break your post up in 2 to respond. For this first part, here's who is alive: Heavy Gud Zander RTE Cairos Turin Dice Lenlo Verbal Obviously we need to take myself and Zander out. That leaves: Heavy Gud RTE Cairos Turin Dice Lenlo You have an issue with me putting the bolded people in POE lists? Who the hell else should I be putting in there? I didn't have Heavy or RTE in there because of their emotional outbursts and then leaving the thread for quite a while (Heavy almost quitting) and then actually self-voting (RTE). And I did mention how I forgot about Cairos. So that leaves literally the bolded. That said, I do now consider Heavy with the recent "null" read on some people.

Ahh, nevermind Zander. I was missing the obvious there, my bad.

Sorry, I'm not following that last part. Maybe I'm missing something obvious, please explain. I viewed that as semantics, as he intended to vote himself.

I am aligned.

That last part is a good question. We do in this case because with mislynches available, countering makes it at least 1 scum dead, which opens the game up to ISOing the dead scum player and getting reads off that.

Heh, very true. That was also super early and we all chatted about it and clarified everything. At this point in the game, there should be no questions, amirite?

RTE did as well, I think.