Aside from the “if Mafia had a Strongman, they probably used it on the Cop” point, I disagree with everything else you’re saying. Early use of 1x roles is novice play at best

I didn’t do anything last night - you save roles like this for later

This We gotta plant a flag somewhere. We have five hours to try and lynch a wolf. The alternative is to get mired down into endless WIFOM and let confusion guide us

To be clear, I’m asking Turin to reveal because he already did - I’m not asking for more reveals (just pointing out what if’s if they did) I revealed because I think what I have can help Okay, nightly Vig That means Mafia should be pretty stacked I agree with Turin that Mafia, if they had a Strongman shot, would’ve used it on the Cop. We’ve got 5 town, 3 reveled PR’s - here we go: I’m JOAT - I’ve got a 1x Investigate, 1x Roleblock, 1x Double Vote & 1x Jailbreak Depending on what Turin has, that ought to flesh out what we think Mafia has and decide how we can use all this to win

As long as the Vig is alive, there is a chance that Town could kill mafia. We are currently at 8 - 3M vs 5T If we mislynch, that puts us at 3M vs. 4T If there is nothing to prevent a Mafia NK, we lose as we would wake up to 3M vs. 3T But ed, as Vig, represents the possibility that Town could eliminate Mafia, so his presence alone (as long as he’s telling the truth) means that we move to Night, even if we mislynch. What happens tonight is anyone’s guess - that’s why I’d like to be as informed as possible so the we can make some semblance of a plan.

No? People have to prove roles? That and I’d rather be the judge of whether or not a claim is bullshit - people do make slips. Otherwise we’re just gonna watch 5 hands go up when you ask who’s a VT.

As long as ed is alive, he represents a possible path toward victory for the town. Can we agree on that? If the Doc protects ed, we preserve that chance. If Mafia have a Strongman, then it doesn’t matter, but what choice do we have? Saving the Doc for N3 doesn’t work because there’s a better than avg chance there won’t be an N3 if we mislynch and ed is dead

@Turin Turambar if I fully reveal first, will you fully reveal directly after? No f’n around, just straight info for the town?

Am I reading this correctly? You want the VT’s to claim because that will help you determine the veracity of claims?? How does that work when all the wolves will claim VT? And anyone that doesn’t is outed as a PR? I’m gonna do a fast self-check to make sure I didn’t have a stroke that choked all the oxygen from my brain…

The thing is, ed as Vig is just as valuable to Town if he doesn’t shoot - it’s the fact that he could shoot that keeps Town alive even if we do mislynch. So as long as a doc is unknown, Mafia have to shoot into 4. Or, they can shoot ed and end his ability to prolong the Town in this game. Do you understand? Im lost where you say your role is sometimes limited but then you say your role is not limited? Any chance you want to share your role? I will share mine regardless of what you do, knowing that any and all info can help the town. No trust necessary - just easy math

So what do you think of the plan you’re doing everything in your power to not address lol

You had me at “None of this is the point.” And I’m aware of sarcasm. Pretty sure folks know that about me lol

All you’ve done in the past 24 hours is posit “why would I do that as Mafia” and serve up WIFOM takes that go nowhere. Again, Town!Darthe would be supporting or poking holes in my plan. Im playing as straightforward as possible while you’re dancing around like a mischievous WIFOM troll - honestly I don’t even know what to make of it other than you’re just making junk posts for skimmers to hit on like clickbait.

No, I have you at the top of my Mafia list. Bit of a difference there But since you’re sooo town, prove it. Do something that makes people want to believe you.

Oh My God U Suck

Im not debating it - I’ve built my entire view on that being the case. But it’s always good to be certain, no? So, I figure we give Tigs, SD and Turin a little more time to flesh things out

We have a viable plan to move the town forward. Why don’t you put Turin’s tinfoil glasses down and jump in for the win?

We’re waiting on @Tigraine and @SinisterDeath to see if they are going to counter claim ed’s Vig claim Then we are waiting on @Turin Turambar to add thoughts and hopefully details to his role? claim Then I’ll give details on my role and we’ll be able to move forward with something closer to information as opposed to the flaming dumpster fire that we’ve been living in

This post is terrible lol

If my current core holds, my most likely for wolves: 1. Darthe 2. Tigs 3. dice 4. SD 5. Heavy I will also be instituting Non-Emo measures into my game. Nobody needs to be put through any more of this nonsense

The lack of activity is deflating for sure

Jury is out on the idea of WIFOM, but DL is in 8 hours, so at some point we’re gonna have to take a chance. Other than a situation where someone cc’s ed, I’m just gonna role with him as Vig, If someone does cc him, our pool is narrowed to 2, which ain’t bad And I know that I can prove my role That leaves Turin.

Nobody is cleared until they die or we win. But for lack of a better plan, we gotta try something over the next few hours The devil will be in the details of the roles Turin and I have claimed. I really want to hear his thoughts on revealing, but I will out regardless. Just want to see what he says without that knowledge first

I’ll throw out some observations about possible Mafia existing outside of the core - nothing personal here, just how things are: Tigs did another flyby last night, casing only two people and then ghosting dice has offered very little game content Darthe showed up after being voted for, which is null for him. He engaged a good bit, which is null for him. He said he was locking in to beast mode, which is null for him. Imo, he hasn’t said anything that moved the game forward SD has been 90% spam and what little game related content there has been has not, imo, moved the game forward Heavy started as emo and then did a 180 to provide game-related observations That’s as flat as I know how to be. It is what it is

It helps because we’re at MyLo and we’re bogged down in the weeds, getting nowhere. If we can build a town core that shrinks the pool of possible wolves, that’s a huge help. So far we’ve got: ed as uncountered Vig Turin with role x Me with role x We’re gonna have to get into details, but if we take 3 out of a pool of 8, that greatly increases our chances of lynching a wolf