I suggested earlier that we run Gud up to L1 as it’s a good way to get folks talking. Same logic applies to Hally. I also posted that we should wait to hammer as we have lots of time and need as much info as we can get. Personally, I want to hear from dice and Gud as well as more from Verb.

Lol Turin

I don’t love Verb’s logic for not sharing the message. I also think we can afford to spend some getting everyone’s opinion on Hally, so let’s not hammer too quickly.

Let’s see if L1 prompts a return. Unvote Gud - Vote Hallia

Im 2nd on your reads list? That is truly lolololol

Will you walk me through the logic of not sharing the message you got? Not voting for Zander lol

I thought I had quoted your post lol - phone is ringing off the hook every time I try to postcard I hit the wrong button. Nursery rhyme was “long hair don’t care” at the end of her post. I have no idea what that was supposed to mean.

Look, you’re going to see whatever you will but I’ve tried to clarify things here and I feel like I’ve been consistent. I did say that out of the two of you, I’d wager there is a wolf and I still hold that to be very possible, but you’ve been more present and solving since then while Hally has not.

@keyholder21 consider this me going on record saying that I held you and Hally as both possible wolves, but in no way did I say that you two were linked or working together. Hopefully that clears things up. Everybody thinks about things the way that they will. Putting d1 reads out there is all speculation anyway, so now I hope to be less confusing. Currently I see you as putting in a good effort into solving the game. I see Hally as a low-show and a low contributor, although handy with a nursery rhyme 😑

Can we all agree that mechanics talk is needless WIFOM? We know there are lots of roles in the game from the subtitle ffs, and yet nobody saw Mafia Messenger coming, so maybe just settle in to good ‘ol town clearing and scum hunting and leave the pointless spec behind?

Lol, I’m sure it does. “Run her up” means to vote you to L1 and see what kind of dance you do then. It can be a very effective tool for the town. Wolfy dip. No bueno.

If Hally turns out to be the most wolfy, sure. I’m open to whatever information we receive and I don’t offer passes. ATM I want to focus on Gud but we’ll see what the day brings. Mechanics talk is bs and you know it. All it does is take attention away from people’s play, which is what we’re looking at. Yesterday was a disaster for town because of all the bs. Let’s not do that again.

Thanks for confirming!

Everything you’re doing is wrong. If you are town, please consider that your radar is way off, hence all of your antics on d1 that literally doubled the page count and did nothing but help the wolves. Take a moment and maybe reread from a “who is town?” perspective.

Regardless of mod’s answer, Gud under Darthe’s influence should out itself. Darthe doing “zany Darthe” to cover for a wolf role was pretty indicative imo. We can also go back and look at who he was signaling - they would be the ones he was going to send a message to.

@Ithillian Turambar are you able to let us know if a dead wolf is allowed to stay in the wolf chat?

Vote Gud

@Zander? @Gudrean is wolf. I knew it as soon as she wouldn't vote for Turin. Pretty sure she knew I knew as soon as I asked her who she would and wouldn't vote for - she's been pretty good about getting back to people and she never circled back to that. Darthe is one of the few players that I could help her pull off the game she has so far and now that he's gone, look for her behavior to change. Let's run her up and see how she does. @seph is lock clear in my book. He called me out on a point of honor, intended or not, and I extend the same standards to him. Enough said. In my mind, I don't see Gud jumping on the Cass train if Cass was wolf. It would have been too easy to jump on Turin's train or even my train. Probability makes me think the Cass/Turin slot is *probably* town. In my mind, I'm looking for a player that fits into the Darthe-guiding-Gud picture. I'm thinking it'll be an independent player and we have a few options there, each of which should reveal themselves today. @keyholder21 for the love of all that's holy, please stop thinking I've been tying you and @Hallia together - you both just fell into similar places on my PoE, like dice and Verb, but nobody thinks that they're mafia together. It skeeves me that you keep talking about this point, but there are things you've said that make me want to see you working for town. Wagonomics on the @Turin Turambar lynch are going t be distorted because he was, and I say this respectfully, the WOLF D1 MVP. I have no idea whatsoever wtf the plan was there, but let's all agree it was a bad idea and move on. Having said that, the last two votes do fall under the independent player category, and everybody is a suspect until they're cleared. Is Hallia a wolf? She certainly seems to be coasting and going along with a plan. If we can sort Gud, I'll have a better read here. Honest;y, Turin muddied the water so bad that it's hard to go back and see how other people were playing off of each other. That leaves @Verbal32 and @dicetosser1. They'll need to be around more to clear their slots. No matter what, Darthe was playing a major role in the mafia plan, so look for departures from that.

@Gudrean will you give an updated list of your reads? Who are you willing to lynch? Who are you not?

You do you. I’m a villager, so no need to accuse me of “going to such depths.” Just genuinely annoyed at your tunneling, so I said as much. That’s all. Nobody has had access to the slots that aren’t showing up. Yet folks still managed to post about other players as well as me, so I think maybe you’ve got a thing, but whatever.

Current d1 views: My vote is on @Turin Turambar and will stay there unless we learn something new. He's obviously a simp or a lover or somesuch. He's dominated d1 with his garbage and I've literally stopped reading anything he posts. There's a wolf among @seph & @Darthe 80% of Seph's game has been focused on painting me as a wolf, which to me shows that he set out to tunnel and has accomplished that. Darthe's play has been all over the place and provides good cover for a wolf. His post the other night was hot garbage and he hasn't explained it at all. There's a wolf among @keyholder21 & @Hallia Key has also spent a great deal of time focused on me, which is fine and all, but there are nudges and missreps of my posts. Her last WOT called me a liar for stating that Turin isn't leaning into his meta about always being perceived as a wolf. That's ridiculous - he obviously has. @Cass has been a pop-in. Not a good sign Too early to tell for @dicetosser1, @Verbal32 or @Gudrean but I'm not getting bad vibes from any of them. That's how I see it. I'm sure it's wildly different than others. I'll discuss actual points but I'm done responding to anyone who just wants to tunnel.

You’ve had two days off. Figure it out.

Wolves among the bros imo. Don’t see another world where this isn’t happening.

Lol. Tell us Leader, who is who and what is what. We’re all hanging on your every word.