So did the Eye of the World even do or mean anything in the grand scheme of things?

Like, I thought Ishamael said that he'd spread word of it and made sure that the Dragon became aware of the Eye so that his Ta'vereness would lead him there so that the Forsaken could claim it... but so what if they did? The other Forsaken can freely use Saidin without fear of corruption, what use would they have for a pool of filtered Saidin?

Dark One never really struck me as THAT grumpy.

It could be more like a demented Arcade game for him.

I've heard people describe the Pattern as a chess playing program and the dark one has been trying to beat it forever

You know how you could never BEAT arcade games. You just played forever and tried to get a high score. Imagine if that's what the dark one was trying with his attempts.

But you were just hypothesizing that you think the Dark One might be UNABLE to destroy the pattern. and since that's his goal, he'd be incapable of winning if that's true.

But you just said that the Pattern always manages to turn things around even when the Dark One wins.

 

I would be really angry if it were true. Because the only way I can tolerate the pattern is believing that it ain't invincible and unstoppable.

For a more lore friendly answer, it's not about saving the pattern for Rand and company, it's about life.  To them, the pattern has nothing to do with it.  They want to protect the people they life and make sure they have a future, whatever the pattern may will that future to be.

 

I don't like it when the villain CAN'T win.

I don't just care about the main characters living or dying. It kills some of the magic for me if the antagonist has no chance of achieving his goal

Just makes the whole story feel pointless to me.

It took ages for my friend to keep me reading the books even though it's a story about the main character being protected by reality and bending things to make sure he wins. It took a LOT to make me ignore that.

I would be really angry if it were true. Because the only way I can tolerate the pattern is believing that it ain't invincible and unstoppable.

I dunno. I did think a lot of Ishamael's speeches to Rand were good. But he seemed way too... angry. The "Dark One" seemed far too frustrated for a supposedly timeless guy who's skilled enough to do all the things he's done.

I like the actual Dark One who seems more confident in himself. Confidence, Effort, and Competence are three things I put a great deal of stock in.

I'm fine with him not winning. I just find it odd when people seem to like seeing the Dark One's weaknesses. Because it lets us know he's not invincible.

It's just... he clearly isn't unstoppable since he's never won. So what else do you need?

So yeah, hardly an all powerful being that we need to be reminded is fallable considering he's never ultimately won.

So can a wolf be domesticated to the point where it can no longer go to TAR?

That's cool.  I like it better that way.  It's a small reminder that the DO is not all powerful.

The fact that he always ALWAYS loses without fail should be reminder enough of that (sadface)

I would've liked to have known more about Niall. Or at least the kind of stuff he could pull off.

He was my favourite of the great captain generals.

What's the reason behind the names of osme of the books.

"Eye of the World, Great Hunt, Dragon Reborn, Shadow Rising, Lord Of Chaos, Crown Of Swords, PAth of Daggers, Winters Heart all make sense.

But what about Fires Of Heaven, Crossroads and Knife of Dreams?

so was balthamel killing aes sedai in crossroads for actual reasons? (like keeping relationships with Ash'aman from getting off the ground) or is he just throwing a tantrum?

How does Padan Fain fit into the Pattern? He isn't with the Dark One, so how easy is it for the Pattern to predict him?

...Why do Ta'veren need to exist at all? Now, I ask because, it's mentioned that a Ta'veren doesn't control their powers, their path is carved out by the Pattern and it actively seeks to railroad them down the path it want. Now, why does a person NEED to be a Ta'veren for the Pattern to do this? An answer to another question I asked earlier regarding the tower yielded the answer of Egwene being used by the Pattern to try and merge the White Tower back together. Can't the pattern do this with everyone if it needs to get stuff done? Egwene wasn't a Ta'veren.

Does being Ta'veren make them malleable enough within the pattern to become easier to control? Does the aura of improbability around them make it easier for the Pattern to engineer scenarios?

Sorry, I always have infinite questions about Ta'veren. I need to know their limits in order to know why the pattern doesn't just engineer answers to everything it needs. And if it does then why I should believe the books have any tension whatsoever

Is it ever implied or stated by RJ or anything anywhere what some of the Ter'angreal the people of the third age use are actually for?

Like it's heavily implied that they're being used incorrectly and likley serve radically different functions from the one they were initially made for.

I asked this on another thread, but it might've been better to ask it more officially here.

WHY does the fandom seem to consider Perrin dumb or stupid. Is it purely because of his obsessiveness over Faile and how it hinders his judgement?

Thematic reasons and symbolism aside, did Perrin ever think of Dual wielding his Axe and Hammer?

you think that's why the Taveren-ness didn't activate until it did. It was gaining data on them, to determine how they would act for a while before throwing stuff that needed to happen at them.

Still don't know how the dark one can fight a system like that. Since he can't exactly switch off the threads that his own people are being weaved into. So if it wanted them gone it could just weave them to their deaths

if everyone in this series thinks that destiny controls everything and they have no choice in what happens to them, why do they even bother trying to stay alive?

Also, Mat thinks that he has no choice but to marry Tuon. What if he, say, ran her through with his staff? What would happen? Would he suffer a spontaneous brain anneurysm to keep him from doing so? would he trip so the hit wouldn't connect? A lot of "fated" stuff only happens because they're actively aware that it's fated to happen. But nobody ever seems to bring up the oddness of this, or questions the point of doing anything if their path is apparently etched in stone before they do it.

I'm in one of my bad moods again. Threw away my MGS games in disgust.

GOD I hate Ocelot

and.. he... played... it... for laughs?

Right before (or is it after) playing Morgase's rape for drama? (blinks)