@Turin Turambar - Out of everything I have said this game, you are basing your thinking on one coincidental timing? Burn me, I've written palaces of posts, but that's enough to override your feeling of me that's been town ALL game??? I find this whiplash turnaround sus. Explain how Hally's flip relates to me in your eyes? @Zander? - No, according to DPR he (DPR) hasn't been linking us. Although, imo, he has. I also think DPR putting Hally at L-1 when we have like 1.5 days to discuss is suspicious, even though, tbf, I also think she's wolfy. @seph - I want to know what put DPR firmly in your town camp. I have doubts that a 3rd party exists in an 11 player game, personally 🤷‍♀️.

Not totally sure how I feel about Gud, tbh. Before rereading my feeling on her is lean town, but I do also remember that that's mostly based on do I think new scum would act this way.

Oh excuse me, Hallia did have something to say when I pressured her on her sketch read of DPR. She said, "it must have just been in my head then" or something like that.

Here between meetings. @Zander? - Hallia's "sketchy" read was on DPR. I can go get you my exchange with her later when I have more time, but she essentially said she voted for DPR based on his vote on Turin due to emotions. Then she claimed she had him sketchy for a long time, then when I asked her why she didn't mention he was her top sketchy read when she voted for him she had nothing to say. @DPR - Why quote your own post instead of mine? :p. Okay, I guess I can see how thinking us on a wolf team isn't linking us together. But you did in you other posts and I stick to that. I will gather quotes later. Can you please explain the nursery rhyme thing? At first I thought it was just because she was referencing her having a 4 year old, which is why I laughed, but then when I thought about it, that's kinda a weird thing to say. @Turin Turambar - But you're voting her?? I think she's sketchy too, but I'd like to hear from her today before I run her up to L-1.

LOL on the nursery rhyme.

I just had 5 quotes and lost them UGH. @DPR - But you did link us together at least twice. You commented that you thought the scum team was me and Hallia and someone else twice, pretty sure. I have to get to a meeting but I will try to grab quotes after.

It's how I catch up and show my thoughts :p. But fine, I will try to just do a few quotes at a time.

You also said CassTurin was LIKELY mafia. More wolfy I can understand, but you literally said likely mafia which is different, imo. For me it depends both on when Darthe put his vote on CassTurin and why. But, imo, it is mildly clearing that darthe was around plenty after his vote and did not move his vote. I'll try to go back today and look at when he vote was and what he said around it. To be completely honest, I can follow it just fine? See, this is different than thinking she is likely mafia??? Dude. You are still grouping us. I'm going to go back and grab the quotes. It's WEIRD because WHY do we fall into the same place in your PoE?? NO ONE else has us grouped together. How in the world when Cass, Dice, and Verb had ALL been less active than me???? It reeks of tying a teammate to a townie - and Hally's vote on you reeks of distancing from a teammate. I'll go back and grab all the quotes (at least 4 times to show the connection you're painting between me and Hallia. It's also weird that you put us together like EVERY TIME you make a list. I don't understand what you are hinting at, Z. I agree that their interaction at EOD looks better for Verb. I think most of us had darthe as town or likely town, so I have doubts that they went at each other on thread at this time. however, darthe clearly had me confused so ??? I still don't like that Verb didn't appear to be trying to solve AT ALL. Why is her vote NAI? lol on the vig comment. I had darthe town too, but he didn't even try to pocket me, I was just flat out wrong. Like I said above, for me it depends on when he put the vote on CassTurin and why, but I agree it's an easy vote to sit on. Especially with his "defense" of Turin to get towncred towards the end of the day. What does this mean? Don't hate this. Although I would like explanation on how you have completely cleared DPR? Agreed. Uh, these posts are basically exactly what I wanted to say 🫠. No-lynch for today, so far. Personally, I want to see Turin's play on this role before I just hang it. Half of my suspicion on Cass was lack of activity/involvement which is now hard to gauge because she asked to be replaced? It's weird that you'd want to go at this position without taking that into account, imo. Didn't you say Hally had an obvious tell D2??? Why didn't you bring up about her tell in this post I quoted above???

I'm about to start making dinner so I'll be gone for a bit. @Gudrean - Wait, didn't you just say a few posts ago that you didn't like the train on CassTurin? ??? If you thought CassTurin was likely mafia why didn't you like that train?

@Zander? - I thought CassTurin's slot was scummy before, so I don't hate it, but I always feel iffy on hanging replacements right out of the gate. Like what if Cass was really busy and that's why she had a lack of posts? I feel like this hinges on how Turin plays, but also, IMO, whether or not DPR flips mafia. I agree on focusing on DPR and Hally today though.

@Gudrean Who do you want to look at today and why?

@Turin Turambar My list is pretty similar. Why a scum lean on dice? I have him as null. I also have Hally as scum lean. I definitely want to look at DPR today. I felt toward the end of D1 that maybe I was tunneling, but now know that darthe was mafia and he kept saying DPR was null for him makes me itch since they would have played together a lot. I also CANNOT get it out of my brain that DPR kept putting me and Hallia together in his lists even though our play has been very different this game.

If there is a vig(ilante), yes. There may be other roles that can but I can't think of any others right now. It's been like 15 years since I've played lol. Good follow through regardless lololol. Why were you leaning town on him?

LOL, not usually how night goes but awesome. I definitely should not have been relying on old meta, maybe I should erase myself from the narrative today 🙃.

Hi @Gudrean :). Sorry I haven't been around a ton - weekends are often booked with family stuff.

I'd be happy to help with vote counts! After the Hamilton game it is likely better for my schedule for me to be on that side of things until the semester ends heh. Yes! I have one I have created. It's an 11p game and beginner/intermediate in terms of roles. Inspired by my kids it is Summer Camp themed.

Sucks. @Gudrean - taking a break like Ithi suggested ☺️.

And @Cass What about since?????

@Cass - I actually am having some trouble reading this too, and like Verb, I don't mean to be a jerk. I'm legit trying to understand this. I think I'm reading that you sussed Turin first over the interactions with darthe and thinking they are W/W. Then you weren't sure how to feel about Turin's reaction/opinion to the IC reveal but you think some of the posts he went back and posted were from before Z's reveal? I don't understand the bolded part. I do understand the part about me and the thinking he's shady based on his misrep of me. Is that accurate?? @Verbal32 - I didn't quote yours, but okay, you're here today and Z hasn't been posting which has allowed you to stay current you said. Did you take the time to look at all at the people that you are suspicious of outside of the literal ONE post of each that you say you are sussing them over???

Hally is voting, she's voting DPR.

To be 100% completely fair, I don't know that this particular thing is AI for Cass? Maybe a smidge because she knows the deadline is close? That being said, she is one of my scum leans and I did say I would be willing to vote for her. I can take a second look at DPR tomorrow to see if I am tunneling. Unvote, Vote Cass

Oops, Ithi beat me to a new one while I was getting that quote. Sorry Ithi/thread!

@Cass

In each scenario, who are Turin's teammates iyo? I get that you sort of answered below, but I want a more specific answer on each side of the line, please. There's a lot of talk about Turin in this thread. Pulling out one sentence from all that he's said and all that has been said about him feels like a very easy way for wolf to jump on the top vote getter without tying themselves to a teammate. This is all just true statements. Not NAI imo. I think I answered this above? LMK if not.

Can you see how this is concerning to me? You're voting for your top sketch read but you don't say that when you put the vote on???? WTF is even this discussion?