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Hello!  Welcome back to "WoT If?", Dragonmount's weekly theory blog.  We'll be continuing our look at the Seanchan today.  So, let's dive right into it:   SPOILER WARNING.  This will include content from A Memory of Light.  Please DO NOT read this if you have not completed the book.   While I agree with most comments for last week's blog, I think we need to put our trust in Brandon.  Perhaps Hawkwing's advice didn't lead to any solution with the damane.  But there are other people close to Tuon who could help with the transition.   The first thing I want to look at is the terms of the agreement between Tuon and Rand.  Rand goes in with the intent of freeing all the damane, but is unable to do so.     By the terms of this agreement, the Seanchan get to keep all the damane they currently have.  This is basically what Rand told the group at Merrilor, "As for the women [channelers]… what is done is done. Let us worry about the world itself first, then do what we can for those held captive." (A Memory of Light, Chapter 6, "A Knack").    However, Egwene and Tuon try to work out the finer bits of the agreement.  By the end, they have agreed that Tremalking does not belong to Seanchan—which would fulfill the prophecy spoken by Harine din Togara Two Winds: "The Jendai Prophecy says you will bring us to glory, and all the seas of the world will be ours" (A Crown of Swords, Chapter 34, "Ta'veren").  So, we can assume the Sea Folk will be safe after the Last Battle is done.   Besides that, though, not much else is "agreed" upon.  They discuss the terms of releasing damane and allowing the Seanchan to accept willing channelers, but they don't actually make a bargain.  It seems like both Tuon and Egwene accepted the terms of letting the Seanchan "recruit" marath'damane in exchange for letting go the damane who wish to be free:     But, there is no shaking of hands, no signed treaty, not even a, "It is agreed."  So, is this a binding agreement?  There were witnesses on both sides who can vouch for what was said, but without anything written down, how binding can it be?   There's also the fact that Egwene dies.  Was Tuon's contract with Egwene herself, or was it with the Amyrlin?  Will it still last after Egwene's death?  I could see Tuon arguing that it would be void.   If it is still enforced, I think nearly all of the captured Wise Ones will be freed.  Tuon's insistence that a properly trained damane will not want to leave can't apply to the Wise Ones who know how to embrace pain.  There isn't anything the sul'dam could do to them to make them break.   The Aes Sedai, though, are another matter.  We see in Towers of Midnight that Elaida is nearly broken (Chapter 47, "A Teaching Chamber").  How many of the others taken will be unable to hold off the Seanchan's breaking tactics?  Aes Sedai are surprisingly stubborn, so maybe some will still wish for freedom.    But if Egwene's and Tuon's agreement doesn't hold after the Last Battle, there are two others who can work on the Empress and make her see reason.  First is Mat.  He's growing more accustomed to Seanchan ways, but Mat will always be Mat.  And like it or not, he has a soft spot for Aes Sedai.  When he accidentally captures a marath'damane on the battle field, he thinks of releasing her.     How many of the damane belong to the Empire?  And if Mat is the Prince of the Ravens, couldn't those damane arguably belong to him?  And if they belonged to him, couldn't he let them free or something?   And if that's not a far enough stretch, there's always Min.  She gets elevated to Tuon's Truthspeaker (A Memory of Light, Chapter 27, "Friendly Fire").  Whatever a Truthspeaker says, Tuon has to acknowledge.      In this discussion, Min gets the upper hand, showing Tuon there are other ways of handling things.  In fact, Min's argument about "what someone may do" is not too far off from Tuon's thoughts on sul'dam being able to learn to channel.  And from there, the next step is seeing that Aes Sedai should be viewed the same way.  Aes Sedai can be manipulative and untrustworthy, but not all of them are.  Surely, they all don't deserve the punishment of the a'dam based on the logic Min just used and Tuon agrees with. And to make it super easy, Min could just say to let them all go.  As the bearer of omens, she would have to be obeyed, I think.   With all of these factors working against the Seanchan, the captured Aes Sedai--those who wish freedom--should be released.    That's all for this edition.  I'm pleased that things looked good for the collared Aes Sedai.  For next week, we'll look at what will happen if/when Rand, Mat, and Perrin lose their ta'veren abilities.  Thanks for reading!

By Mashiara Sedai, in Theory Blog,

I am calling for applications for one person to join my staff of bloggers. Applications for this position will be open until Monday, June 17th.   Description of the Job Position:   The position currently open is for the Weekly Roundup blogger.  This person will be responsible for doing a brief recap of some of the important events/threads happening on the forums.  Please look here for past examples of this column.   Job Duties for Both Front Page Blogger Position:   1. Bloggers are expected to produce content in their respective areas for the front page once per week. They must be able to meet deadlines in a timely manner.   2. Bloggers occasionally will be called upon to assist the Front Page Admin with brainstorming new ideas for features.   3. Bloggers are expected to dedicate time each week to the Front Page Bloggers Staff Board and the DM Staff Board. As members of DM Staff, they act as representatives of the members of DM and their input is vital in the decision making process. Bloggers should be actively engaged in discussions on staff boards.   4. Bloggers must be able to give at least a 6 month commitment of approximately 5 hours per week. LOAs will come up, of course.   Anyone who thinks they can fulfill the requirements may apply. Strong candidates are people who possess the following qualities: efficiency, writing ability, organizational skills, creativity, maturity, and the ability to work well with others.   The Application Process:   If you are interested, please send an email to frontpage@dragonmount.com.   In each application, please include:   * Your DM Handle. * Some details about who you are in real life, including anything you think will have prepared you for leadership (including past online leadership experience). * A sample of your writing consisting of at least three short paragraphs. This can be in the form of a brief essay, a blog, a school paper, a newspaper article, a forum post, a short story, or a role play. You do not have to write something new for this application; in fact, many of you already have forum posts that are long enough to count. I mainly want to get an idea of your writing style. * Anything else that you think would set you apart from other applicants.  Why are you the best candidate?   If you have any questions, please feel free to ask and I will try to answer them.   ~Mashiara

By Mashiara Sedai, in DM Website news,

It's Friday again and Fan Art Friday is back with the last part of the Architecture and Scenery. This time there is more focus on scenery than architecture. This part brings to you scenery from Waygates to Mashadar to the Spine of the World.   The Waygates were made by the male Aes Sedai after the Breaking as a thanksgiving gift for the Ogier who had sheltered them. Gradually the Taint on saidin affected the Ways.  Machin Shin came into existence and devoured most who entered the Ways.   Mashadar was the product of distrust in Aridhol. It changed Aridhol, a great city, to Shadar Logoth or Shadow's Waiting. Mashadar devours most who enter the city. Even Trollocs fear to enter Shadar Logoth because of Mashadar.   The Spine of the World is the great mountain range which separates the main part of the world from the Aiel Waste. It is also called the Dragonwall by the Aiel.   The door of the way by lioucihan     Waygate at Manetheren by robchristainson     Fog suit 6: Mashadar by FalineDrake     Spine of the World by stickersticker

By Panchi, in Fan Art Friday,

Trolloc Holmes     This great consulting detective is well known for his sharp intellect and sharp claws.   Not afraid to take on any case, or any foe, he's feared throughout the land as a force to be reckoned with.  Never seen without his constant companion, the turned healer Wot'Shin, he's only surpassed in intelligence by his elder brother Myrddraalcroft Holmes.      Some of his cases include:    "The Problem of al'Thor's Bridge"  "The Adventure of the Veiled Aielman"  "The Adventure of the Caemlyn Draghkar"  "A Study in Ebony"  "The Darkhound of the Borderlands" "The Sign of the Thirteen"      Friends of the Light should beware when Trolloc Holmes is on the case.

By Ireond, in Humor Blog,

Hello, everyone.  Welcome back to "WoT If?", Dragonmount's weekly theory blog.  This will be part one of a two-part discussion of the Seanchan.  For today, we'll look at the supposed discussion between Artur Hawkwing and Tuon.  But first:   SPOILER WARNING.  This will include content from A Memory of Light.  Please DO NOT read this if you have not completed the book.   This subject is very interesting to me because it was the center of the outrigger novels Robert Jordan had planned for Mat and Tuon.  Robert Jordan had talked about writing the continuation of the story with Mat and Tuon's return to Seanchan after the Last Battle.  Naturally, Mat's place as Prince of the Ravens would bring about a change in some of the politics.  But when we see Mat tell Artur Hawkwing to speak with Tuon, it made me wonder what other changes are in store for the Empire.  Here's the quote from A Memory of Light:       The conversation between the High King and the Empress takes place off-stage, so to speak, so we are left with only a few tidbits from interviews with Brandon Sanderson about what actually happened.  Here's one:       Brandon's comment about "great consternation" led me to the assumption that Hawkwing had some not-nice comments about the way the Seanchan Empire had evolved.  Since Hawkwing spends most of his time in Tel'aran'rhiod, it seems likely that he would understand the Shadow had played a hand in his dislike of Aes Sedai, and come to realize the error of his ways.  He would then be able to pass on advice to Tuon about Aes Sedai not being all that bad.  However, my idea was struck down.   This past weekend was the Phoenix ComiCon, and I was lucky enough to actually be on a Wheel of Time panel with Brandon Sanderson. Since this topic was in my head for the blog, I asked him about the interaction between Hawkwing and Tuon, implying that Hawkwing had learned from his past mistakes.   (I recorded the audio of our discussion, so this is verbatim what Brandon said to me, minus the few ums.)       I really thought that Artur Hawkwing would have been a driving force in the Seanchan's release of the damane.  But Brandon dashed all my hopes of that.  Which leads me to believe Hawkwing disapproved of other things the Empire is doing.  Brandon implied that Hawkwing wouldn't have minded collared Aes Sedai, but there were other things to have "words" about.  Most likely da'covale and slavery.   Another interview I found says this:       Since this "great impact" doesn't come from releasing Aes Sedai, it must be an upheaval of the Seanchan's hierarchy system.  However, even if Hawkwing's advice doesn't change Tuon's mind about leashed Aes Sedai, there are several other people who could intercede on their behalf.  We'll save that part of the discussion for next week.   That's all I've got on this subject, since once again my initial theory was wrong.  Next time I want to speculate about the treaty between the White Tower and the Seanchan.  Share your own thoughts about the conversation between Hawkwing and Tuon in the comments below.  Thanks for reading!

By Mashiara Sedai, in Theory Blog,

On June 25, a short story called River of Souls will be published in the Unfettered anthology from Grim Oak Press. Unfettered is a collection of short stories from some of today's best fantasy writers including Patrick Rothfuss, Terry Brooks, Tad Williams, Naomi Novik, Peter Orullian, Lev Grossman and more. It's edited by Shawn Speakman, an up-and-coming writer and cancer survivor who is raising funds through sales of this book to help pay for his medical treatments.  If you don't want to know anything more, you can go the Grim Oak Press website and order your copy. You can also pre-order the eBook version through our online store. Like all eBooks we offer, Unfettered is available in DRM-Free formats for all major e-readers (including Kindle, Nook, iPad, Android, etc.) Click here to learn about our store and the formats we support.   About River of Souls River of Souls is a short story written by Brandon Sanderson and set in the Wheel of Time world. It's a collection of four scenes that were cut from A Memory of Light. In an  introduction to the story, Brandon explains the reasons these scenes were removed. The basic argument is that he and Harriet felt that this sequence revealed too much about a new part of the world at a time when they were trying to wrap the saga up.   Chronologically, River of Souls could be read in between Towers of Midnight and A Memory of Light, although some fans may prefer to finish AMOL before reading it.    What's it about? Warning: minor spoilers!  .... .... .... In a word... Demandred. Brandon revealed at JordanCon last month that the story will shed light onto what the Forsaken was up to during his time in Shara. The story begins with a character, Bao, who is on the verge of fulfilling prophecy and claiming the title of the Wyld. Originally the scenes were written in a way that the reader is left to wonder who Bao is, while gradually revealing more and more clues to his true identity.  Having read it, I can say that the strongest aspect of the story is that it shows Demandred as a possibly redeemable character. Most of the Forsaken are so steeped in their evil ways that we never question whether there's anything but darkness within them.  But with this story, we get a glimpse of Demandred's full potential. We've always known that he was the second most accomplished male Aes Sedai during the Age of Legends, second only to Lews Therin.  In this story, we see a man who possibly could have been the true hero of his world except for his one immense flaw: his hatred of Lews Therin.   Strange as it often seems, the entire Wheel of Time saga takes place over only period of a few years. During these three years or so, we watched Rand and Egwene, Mat and Perrin all rise to power while making new friends and enemies. River of Souls shows us that the same has been true for Demandred during the same time period. He has a father figure, along with a gruff companion who calls him a friend, and even a potential love interest. Brandon points out in the introduction that there probably could have been a full fourteen book series chronicling his adventures in Shara!  (Don't get your hopes up to actually read it.  But oh, the fan fiction we'll have for years to come!)  Each of Demandred's companions have brief mentions in A Memory of Light. In the stand-alone book, the characters are a little flat, but when viewed through the context of River of Souls, they come to life and we're able to empathize with them much more.    Is it any good? Should I read it? Oh yes, it's very enjoyable. Brandon considers the events in this short story to be canon. It provides an interesting and refreshing look at a compelling antagonist we've always wondered about.  But if you're looking for Robert Jordan's voice, it's all but absent here. Brandon makes it clear that these scenes were written entirely by him, even if the overall concept possibly came from Robert Jordan's notes. The Sharans refer to the world in ways very different than others do (for example they talk about the Great Tapestry rather than the Pattern).  There's nothing wrong with these differences, but it underlines the fact that this slice of the story came from Brandon and not from Robert Jordan. And while Brandon has certainly earned the right to say that a large and very important part of the Wheel of Time series is his and no longer just Robert Jordan's, purist readers who appreciated Brandon's attempts to maintain a tone appropriate for the series will find that it slips here somewhat, and we get a voice more similar to his own books.  Again, don't get me wrong; I love Brandon's other books. But these scenes feel like pure Brandon rather than anything Robert Jordan would have done. Perhaps that may have been another reason he and Harriet decided to remove these scenes from AMOL. The only actual criticism of the story I had is that the exciting external conflict happens "off screen." We're told that there's a difficult challenge and narrow escape, but it largely happens in between scenes. There's also some odd moments where you think, Well, why didn't he just balefire that?  (Because, come on... balefire solves everything) But I don't actually fault Brandon because you have to remember the context of which the scene was originally written. These were scenes designed to go in between other chapters in the book. It wasn't fully intended to be a stand-alone story when it was written. I have a strong suspicion that if Brandon had written this specifically as a short story, then certain things --like the big conflict I mentioned--would have been described in more detail.  Another reason you'll want to read this is that this is likely to be the last piece of canon Wheel of Time you ever read. There are no plans to ever make the "outrigger" novels or more prequels. (Harriet said there are only 2 sentences of notes for the outriggers. Not enough to make an actual book out of without being exploitative). Sure, there's an Encyclopedia coming, but that will only be reference material, with little to no story included. There might be video games or movies or other media spin-offs someday, but after River of Souls is released, there won't be any more written prose set in this world. It is, in many ways, the final breath of the Book Age of the franchise.   Conclusion River of Souls is a fun story to read. It will satiate your desire to learn about an interesting character, and expand the world in a fun and unexpected way. There's some nice treats in here for fans, and it really gives the Sharan scenes in AMOL a lot more context. In addition, by purchasing a copy of the anthology, you're supporting a good cause, and you'll also receive a dozen or so other great short stories from some of the top fantasy writers today. Pre-Order your eBook copy here in our store, or purchase a printed copy from the Grim Oak Press website. And when you're done reading, be sure to come back and discuss it with other fans on our forums.

By Jason Denzel, in Books and eBooks,

Sorry for not getting an article up for the last few weeks; I ran into a few problems. But now it's Friday again and I will continue on with the Architecture and Scenery feature. This week has artwork from some mysterious and secret places.   Rhuidean is a city shrouded in mystery. For centuries it remained under a dense fog. No man could go into Rhuidean more than once, and no woman more than twice. This was until the weaves over Rhuidean were destroyed in the fight between Rand and Asmodean.   The White Tower is the home of Aes Sedai. Aes Sedai are known for their mysteriousness and secrecy. The image is of the Hall of Sitters.   The last image is of Dragonmount. Dragonmount's peak and upper slopes are places where no one has gone and come out alive to tell of it.   The introductions done, the artworks are...   Rhuidean at Night by kaikonen   Chamber in Rhuidean by kaikonen   Hall of the Sitters by RShara   The slopes of Dragonmount by robchristianson

By Panchi, in Fan Art Friday,

Hello, friends! The Wheel has turned all the way around to Thursday again, which means two things: the weekend is not too far away, and it's time for our Rotating Features blog! This week, I'm resuming a series of articles which will continue to be written in this feature roughly once per month, in which I will write a brief review of another book or series of books I have read. Now, I don't intend to write here a literary critique, but a little summary and taste of the fiction, with the purpose of perhaps tantalizing you into giving it a try if you're looking for something other than The Wheel of Time to read. As you may have guessed from the title of the article this week, our subject matter is His Majesty's Dragon by Naomi Novik, which was first published in 2005. In the UK it was published under the title Temeraire. Dragons. Napoleon Bonaparte. Naval Warfare. Gentlemanly behavior and acts of valor! His Majesty's Dragon has it all. This is the first book in the Temeraire series, which is an alternate history/fantasy series set in the Napoleonic wars, with one not-so-subtle difference: the inclusion of enormous flying beasts which fight in the air even as the Navy and the Army wage warfare on the ground! The concept is so simple and yet so brilliant that you wonder that it wasn't thought of before. What if there was an Air Force, long before airplanes were invented, an Air Force composed of mythical creatures and their riders? I thoroughly enjoyed the first novel in the series and intend to read further. I imagine it will appeal to anyone who liked the Pern series, the Hornblower books or television series, and a lot of fantasy readers in general. It is perhaps gentler in its tone and a little more easy going than large portions of The Wheel of Time and certainly than A Song of Ice and Fire (currently made famous as A Game of Thrones, the television series), but I found it to be such a fun concept and well written regardless that I didn't regret the time I spent reading it at all. As an added note, it has been reported that Peter Jackson, who is famous for directing the Lord of the Rings movie adaptations, is a big fan of the series and has optioned the movie rights, although he has since considered making it into a mini-series instead. Watch this space, I guess! If you're looking for something a bit different, then I definitely recommend to give it a go. Have fun! Until next time, friends!

By The_Fnorrll_Reborn, in Rotating Features,

He thought he'd left the Great Game behind   Thom "I don't care about this crap anymore, I'm out.  I'm going to leave and you're not going to be able to stop me."   His past didn't agree with the song he was singing   Mysterious masked female "Thom. Thom, my friend, you know that's impossible.  You'll find out you can never truly leave. It just doesn't work like that."   And when a young man set to change the world needs your help   Rand "Look, I need to do this. I need to get them to listen to me. I need to know what you know." You find the one thing you can't run from is yourself   Thom "Fine, Kid. I'll teach you, but don't expect me to stick around.  And if you get yourself killed, it ain't my fault."   Rand "What a caring point of view."   Thom "You'll find it's the ones you think care the most that will back stab you first."   Intrigue around every corner   Rand "How did you know he was working for her?"   Thom "Some people never change."   Once it's in your blood, you'll never be the same   Female voice from out of the shadows "Welcome back, Thom.  You're as sharp as ever, I see."   Thom "Well, you always said I was a natural."     Clint Eastwood   in    Patchwork Cloak   Thom "Your move."

By Ireond, in Humor Blog,

Hello, and welcome back to "WoT If?".  For this week's discussion, I want to look at the idea of immortality and how it might pertain to dark prophecy we've seen.  Please remember:   SPOILER WARNING.  This will include content from A Memory of Light.  Please DO NOT read this if you have not completed the book.   This topic came up in the "After the Last Battle" panel at JordanCon.  I'm not sure who posed this question, but I want to give credit where credit is due—it wasn't me.  The person speculated that Rand might be immortal after his battle with the Dark One, and this hypothesis comes from the dark prophecy in the dungeons of Fal Dara.   Before we jump into the prophecy, though, I want to show that dark prophecy is just as true as light prophecy.  It's been asked of Brandon Sanderson in an interview posted on Theoryland's Interview Database.     Though it's in the footnotes, I'll agree that all prophecies will be fulfilled is what Brandon is actually saying.  That means all the dark prophecies are just as relevant for finding clues about what will happen during and after the Last Battle.   Now, onto the prophecy:     This is such an easy thing to overlook.  Notice that Rand (the man who channels) has two roads.  One to death, one to life.  At the end of the series, Rand lives.  He avoided the path that lead to death beyond dying (which would have happened if he had given in to the Shadow); does that mean Rand has life eternal now?   There are a few directions this can go.  If we say yes, Rand is now immortal, it raises the possibility of other people being immortal.  I think this would be a great way to explain what and who Nakomi is.  Robert Jordan didn't want to go into the possibility of there being a female Dragon—a soul that is equal yet opposite to Rand.  But if it did happen, and a female Dragon in Ages past was able to seal the Dark One in the same manner, she could still be alive today, helping nudge the Pattern and the current Dragon to do what must be done.  And she could coach Rand through the body-swap that she completed before (if time is a circle and all things come again).   There's also the fact that after the Last Battle, Rand's will is law.  He is able to light the pipe by thought.  Therefore, it seems logical to conclude that he could will himself to live as long as he wanted.   However, the body-swap also throws a wrench into the gears because Rand's body does die.  And perhaps Moridin, in Rand's body, does complete the "death beyond dying" part.  Since Moridin is connected to the Dark One, would the Dark One still be able to collect Moridin's soul even though he is resealed?  If the Dark One had Moridin's soul sealed in with him (as well as all the other Forsaken once they die), I'm sure he would make them suffer horribly.  The phrase "death beyond dying" would surely fit.   Each of the Forsaken has a link—perhaps even a bond—to the Dark One.  A Tor Q&A says, "In exchange for their oaths in Shayol Ghul, the Forsaken receive a mark from the Dark One.  This mark is visible only to certain Shadowspawn and it gives the Forsaken some measure of control over them."  Because of this strong bond, one that might surpass the seals, I think it's quite possible the Dark One will collect the souls of the Forsaken, and maybe others—like the Black Ajah, since even Verin says, "The process of making those oaths to the Great Lord was... distinctive" (The Gathering Storm, Chapter 39, "A Visit from Verin Sedai").   So, does Moridin's death in Rand's body count as death beyond dying, or is Rand destined to be immortal?  Of the two options, I think the former would be more in line with the world and its limits.  I think it much more likely the Dark One can access his bonded souls rather than having a person—or even a deity in human form—that's immortal.  But this would be an interesting question for Team Jordan.   That's all for this week.  Let me know what you think.  For next time, we'll speculate what exactly Artur Hawkwing said to Tuon at the end of A Memory of Light.  Thanks for reading!

By Mashiara Sedai, in Theory Blog,

Paul Bielaczyc, co-owner of Aradani Studios and well-known within the fandom for his Rand al'Thor costume, recently had another photoshoot featuring a new Trolloc costume.  These photos were taken by Dim Horizon Studio.         The entire gallery can be viewed here.  And last year's photoshoot can be found here.   Paul has also added a tutorial on how to make the Trolloc helmet on Aradani Studios' website.  

By Mashiara Sedai, in Community & Events,

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By Ireond, in Humor Blog,

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