[Advanced] Lost Mafia--Game Over!

[bopolis]

I named three people as my potential vig shot and all three of notbob, bop, and Tink have ignored it thus far.

 

Self prez is a good trait as either alignment, but you dont have to worry that I'll be taken over by recency bias. I had my shot picked before I ever named you, so itd be best to talk.

 

 

perhaps you should look again

[bopolis]

It is really just down to figuring out AJ's teammates. There are some options.

 

 

If AJ is a wolf,

 

then I think notbob is a wolf based solely on AJ's defense of notbob when i was suspecting him, other teammates in random/BFG/lenlo.

[bopolis]

a bunch of people are saying AJ looks great for asking questions,

 

but my issue is that, sure he's asking questions, but my concern is that he is asking questions to look like he is progressing the game and isn't doing them to progress his reads.

[bopolis]

and on the other hand there is calder who i thought was villagy for his tiinker push beause i thought he was doing something similar to what I was doing with my "NB is a wolf."

 

The near EoD switch to AJ through me off of that.

[Calder]

 

It is really just down to figuring out AJ's teammates. There are some options.

 

If AJ is a wolf,

 

then I think notbob is a wolf based solely on AJ's defense of notbob when i was suspecting him, other teammates in random/BFG/lenlo.

I don't disagree with any of this. It also all becomes much more likely if Darthe is telling the truth.

[Nynaeve]

and on the other hand there is calder who i thought was villagy for his tiinker push beause i thought he was doing something similar to what I was doing with my "NB is a wolf."

 

The near EoD switch to AJ through me off of that.

 

Honestly I've been sort of going back and forth on Tiink myself. As in I think he's very lacking in content, ie not a huge fan that he promised to give thoughts and then kinda just gave Darthe/Shad reads and was sorta absent on the weekend.. at the same time his posts have a real bite to them and come across genuine. So it's like I kinda want to believe him? And when I talked to Halli last she said she was sorta waffling on him (because she had him as a suss more strongly).

 

I don't mind Calder's shift of read on Tiinker because it was really well explained imo. Not only that, but his post had a 'gotcha' quality that made him feel very excited. I believe that he believes it. And his conclusion on AJ, whether correct or not, should absolutely influence his read on Tiinker, imo.

[Nynaeve]

If Calder is taking me for a ride, lolme.

[bopolis]

 

and on the other hand there is calder who i thought was villagy for his tiinker push beause i thought he was doing something similar to what I was doing with my "NB is a wolf."

 

The near EoD switch to AJ through me off of that.

 

Honestly I've been sort of going back and forth on Tiink myself. As in I think he's very lacking in content, ie not a huge fan that he promised to give thoughts and then kinda just gave Darthe/Shad reads and was sorta absent on the weekend.. at the same time his posts have a real bite to them and come across genuine. So it's like I kinda want to believe him? And when I talked to Halli last she said she was sorta waffling on him (because she had him as a suss more strongly).

 

I don't mind Calder's shift of read on Tiinker because it was really well explained imo. Not only that, but his post had a 'gotcha' quality that made him feel very excited. I believe that he believes it. And his conclusion on AJ, whether correct or not, should absolutely influence his read on Tiinker, imo.

 

 

I totally agree there is a gotcha quality to his AJ posts yesterday and today. Especially in his posts after the day ended about DPR getting lynched and his disdain towards me at the start of the night for voting DPR. Like I should have known better.

[Calder]

If Calder is taking me for a ride, lolme.

You would be doing something. Loling wouldnt be it though :)

[Calder]

I am going to be pretty annoyed if Bop has managed to convince me he is town. But, damn he has.

[bopolis]

 

If Calder is taking me for a ride, lolme.

You would be doing something. Loling wouldnt be it though :)

 

giggity

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Nynaeve]

 

If Calder is taking me for a ride, lolme.

You would be doing something. Loling wouldnt be it though :)

 

 

Oh, i'd be fuming probably. lol  But I'm trying to play it cool, you see.

[Nynaeve]

Did an innuendo just fly over my head?  :(

[bopolis]

I am going to be pretty annoyed if Bop has managed to convince me he is town. But, damn he has.

[Calder]

Did an innuendo just fly over my head? :(

Poorly played lol

[Nynaeve]

le sigh

[bopolis]

im reading calder villa, and i have a specific raisin as to why that i'm purposefully not talking about yet, but if i'm right it'll sort itself out so no worries. Even if i'm wrong about the raisin he calder might still be a villa and im right for the wrong raisins. reason im not talking abitu it is because i dont think it's +EV for the village to and in the future if im still alive and you are still curious about this i'll tlak about it, just not today and certainly not right now.

 

Now that the espionnage is over;

 

if AJ is a wolf,

 

then NB/lenlo make sense as partners IMO

 

NB as i said for AJ's defense.

 

And lenlo makes sense because him prying into my claim about NB being a wolf and also with him sticking with the calder vote especially after calder switched to AJ(lenlo posted after calder pivoted that he still wanted calder lynched). Also the bit about calder being town/3p but should still be the d1 lynch isn't a great look.

[bopolis]

if AJ is a villa, and calder is a villa,

 

I think wolfs are in random/bfg/pralaya maybe tiink; basically the question mark people.

 

 

I still feel good about nyn/shad/eldrick/darthe as my toppest towns

[Nynaeve]

im reading calder villa, and i have a specific raisin as to why that i'm purposefully not talking about yet, but if i'm right it'll sort itself out so no worries. Even if i'm wrong about the raisin he calder might still be a villa and im right for the wrong raisins. reason im not talking abitu it is because i dont think it's +EV for the village to and in the future if im still alive and you are still curious about this i'll tlak about it, just not today and certainly not right now.

 

Now that the espionnage is over;

 

if AJ is a wolf,

 

then NB/lenlo make sense as partners IMO

 

NB as i said for AJ's defense.

 

And lenlo makes sense because him prying into my claim about NB being a wolf and also with him sticking with the calder vote especially after calder switched to AJ(lenlo posted after calder pivoted that he still wanted calder lynched). Also the bit about calder being town/3p but should still be the d1 lynch isn't a great look.

 

What about Sooh?

[bopolis]

 

im reading calder villa, and i have a specific raisin as to why that i'm purposefully not talking about yet, but if i'm right it'll sort itself out so no worries. Even if i'm wrong about the raisin he calder might still be a villa and im right for the wrong raisins. reason im not talking abitu it is because i dont think it's +EV for the village to and in the future if im still alive and you are still curious about this i'll tlak about it, just not today and certainly not right now.

 

Now that the espionnage is over;

 

if AJ is a wolf,

 

then NB/lenlo make sense as partners IMO

 

NB as i said for AJ's defense.

 

And lenlo makes sense because him prying into my claim about NB being a wolf and also with him sticking with the calder vote especially after calder switched to AJ(lenlo posted after calder pivoted that he still wanted calder lynched). Also the bit about calder being town/3p but should still be the d1 lynch isn't a great look.

 

What about Sooh?

 

 

can also be a wolf, but i feel more strongly about those two if AJ actually turns out to be a wolf. I think you brought up something about AJ defending sooh on a spot that looked weird(or villa reading her ina spot that looked weird, dont remember correctly). I also think Sooh fits into the world where AJ isn't a wolf. 

[Nynaeve]

Can you explain why why you think Sooh fits into a world where AJ isn't scum?

[bopolis]

Can you explain why why you think Sooh fits into a world where AJ isn't scum?

 

because she's a question mark and i'm operating under the assumption right now that the people I think are somewhat villagy are what they say they are.

 

lets look at that world:

 

me

you

eld

darthe

AJ

calder 

 

likely villas(at least by consensus)\

wildfire

 

have done some things villagy:

tiink

lenlo

pralaya

 

that leaves:

 

random

bfg(sooh)

notbob

 

now if AJ is a villa i'd be more inclined to trust his notbob read and i think a couple others are leaning villa on him so i'd give that some time so lets put him to the side.

 

it leaves random/BFG and then starts to get into some people who have done some villagy thing. Right now at this moment i'm gonna be sus'ing the people who haven't done anything before I start to wanting to dig into the people who have at least done something i've read as villagy. BFG/Sooh fits right into that list and thats why right now i think she fits.

 

Between now and the end of day 2(assuming my buns aren't buttered this night) things can change(ie. BFg turns out to be uber villagy, or someone who did something villagy does something super wolfy) and information can come out that would make me re-evaluate; but as of right now this is how I feel

[Shad_]

 

 

 

lol speaking of which

 

BFG you caught up? What's my alignment?

if you mean read through in detail then no and that's unlikely at this point. I'll read via ISOs and bits that seem interesting from that, but am mostly trying to pick up from here

 

And /shrug lol, gun to head tentative town based on your push of DPR, which is at least more aggressive than I remember you last game, I want to check how many 'diplomatic' posts there are compared to aggressive, but I think the assertiveness is more telling

 

Can you explain that please?

 

What makes it an aggressive towny push and not a scum mislynch push iyo?

 

Because mafia!Shad is diplomatic and making friends. Whereas I think he was poking DPR all day and well before he became a lynch possibility

 

Can you elaborate on this?

[Shad_]

I don't know if I want to wait on that or just blabber on.

 

Happen to be around?

[Shad_]

would guess Nyn's thread presence/early game play indicates she's town

Also I'm interested to hear why you like my slot for my "early content". Pretty sure my first 90 posts or so were 100% fluff.

 

Early thread was fluffy overall, I don't recall much of value from anyone for the first 30 pages or so, fluff in that period was null

 

You gave reads on bop, Calder and others relatively early on in terms of game play

This is the exchange that got me thinking fwiw