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  On 6/6/2016 at 5:54 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 6/6/2016 at 5:52 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 6/6/2016 at 5:46 PM, Clovdyx said:

Zander -

 

  On 6/6/2016 at 4:20 PM, seph said:

 

  On 6/6/2016 at 4:16 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 6/6/2016 at 4:14 PM, Hallia said:

I think it's town on town

Where do you stand on Seph? I found him odd last game, lynched him and he flipped town. I find him odd this game to, but cant tell if its the same as last time or not. He doesnt seem as high energy as last game. As hyper, would be a better word I guess.

 

you try being hyper after getting smashed in a 60 player mash..... that game was fun but awful lol.

any particular reason you think each are town hally?

I currently have sili as the scummiest in my notes while rereading, but I still think he is tow so I am not sure what to do with that lol....

 

 

That's exactly what I meant by missing the forest.  If that sentence had ended where you stopped the highlight, I'd be with you 100%.  But it didn't, and him saying Sili is town fits completely with him being "better than null". 

 

I don't know what Seph's notes look like, but I don't see any inherent contradiction when you look at the whole thing in context.

 

Dude I disagree the sentence itself is a complete contradiction.

 

He thinks the Scummiest player is Town so he's better then null?

 

Maybe if Sili's Meta was that he IS Scummy as Town then sure but I think we can all safely say that ISNT the case.

 

As I said, I think your problem put into words is this:

Seph says Sili is his wolfiest read - OK

Seph has Sili as better then Null - Again, this is OK. It works.

Seph votes Zander - NOT OK

 

Not ok because Zander is not his wolfiest read. If Zander is below "Better then Null" then that means Sili is not his wolfiest read. Ergo he lied OR changed his mind. So Z, find posts where Seph talks about you and show us how he was reading you during those quotes.

 

this whole post made me lol.

regardless of my notes I said sili was a town read, therefore I did not think he was the scummiest person. My post was simply displaying the struggle I was having with him.

I have literally not posted who I have disliked in this game, besides some comments on zander. so please stop trying to twist things.

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Ok well i just decided topost my thoughts on this
 

  On 6/6/2016 at 5:52 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 6/6/2016 at 5:46 PM, Clovdyx said:

Zander -

 

  On 6/6/2016 at 4:20 PM, seph said:

 

  On 6/6/2016 at 4:16 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 6/6/2016 at 4:14 PM, Hallia said:

I think it's town on town

Where do you stand on Seph? I found him odd last game, lynched him and he flipped town. I find him odd this game to, but cant tell if its the same as last time or not. He doesnt seem as high energy as last game. As hyper, would be a better word I guess.

 

you try being hyper after getting smashed in a 60 player mash..... that game was fun but awful lol.
any particular reason you think each are town hally?
I currently have sili as the scummiest in my notes while rereading, but I still think he is tow so I am not sure what to do with that lol....

 

 

That's exactly what I meant by missing the forest.  If that sentence had ended where you stopped the highlight, I'd be with you 100%.  But it didn't, and him saying Sili is town fits completely with him being "better than null". 

 

I don't know what Seph's notes look like, but I don't see any inherent contradiction when you look at the whole thing in context.

 

Dude I disagree the sentence itself is a complete contradiction.

 

He thinks the Scummiest player is Town so he's better then null?

 

Maybe if Sili's Meta was that he IS Scummy as Town then sure but I think we can all safely say that ISNT the case.

 

I don't think this is a bad post from zander tbh, he is trying to make more of it than it is but the two sentences are a obvious contradiction.

my sili read for anyone still confused.
Sili has done multiple things this game I kinda tie towards being mafia, which why in my notes he is the scummiest player. Now from my experience with sili I know he plays different but I usually expect a aggressive sili which you should be able to tell from my earlier interaction with him.

me and sili generally headbutt in most games we are in together, but it is usually when he is town and me as either alignment. The reason I have him as slight town despite my notes is simply his interaction with me and clov.

His responses seem genuine. I'll try to explain a bit more here.
For those who read the games, there are 2 in particular. American mafia- which if you haven't read don't... cause lol me.... and then star wars when him and yates claimed masons. When scum, and sili is confronted and pushed fairly hard he gets tense, especially when he thinks he has been caught. His posts ring extremely fake. However this game when responding to me/clov even lenlo though there wasn't a good argument imo. there he believes what he is saying and I think this is one of sili's most important town traits.

I also saw him say that he thinks that volume is insulting, but it isn't ment to be that way. It is just how it is, and besides you can always change it yourself bud :)

but this is why I posted how I did regarding him and why I have him where I put him. 


 

Hallia, on 06 Jun 2016 - 12:48 PM, said:

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  On 6/6/2016 at 5:48 PM, Hallia said:

Clov's involvement in this looks good for him. Willingness to straighten out confusion is towny

 

zander

 

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Kinda feel the same but its Chris so....not locking nothing in there yet...lololololol


This confuses me though, and its right after the above. Why are you agreeing with hallia about clov when you just called him scummy for doing this exact same thing. He was arguing a different side than you, and it bothered you.

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 2:42 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Lenlo just bolds the parts he wants to twist imo. Did it to me too.

I will have to reread that at some point. I don't rememeber that much from it.

 

  On 6/6/2016 at 5:54 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 6/6/2016 at 5:48 PM, Hallia said:

Clov's involvement in this looks good for him. Willingness to straighten out confusion is towny

 

Kinda feel the same but its Chris so....not locking nothing in there yet...lololololol

 

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  On 6/7/2016 at 11:51 AM, BFG said:

Chris you'd miss it if I ever gave you an easy read :p

 

Only because it's you.   :wub:

 

 

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  On 6/7/2016 at 11:57 AM, BFG said:

Probably something like

 

not everyone can be mafia tinfoil territory:

Seph

Hallia

Dice

 

haven't done anything scummy yet, but not out of mafia range:

Chris

 

Differing shades of grey:

Sili

Laine

 

Null:

lily

Kat

Liz

 

True null:

Thane

 

Eh:

Niniel

Zander

Darthe

 

Ugh:

Lenlo

Wish-tree

 

Of note that Dice and Sili are the ones shifting categories the most

 

I'm not immensely happy with this list, if just because the team almost certainly isn't Lenlo, Wish-tree, Zander, Darthe, and I'm not sure more than 2 of them would actually be in the team.

 

I both really like and really hate this reads list from you.  The general order really isn't that different from about where I'm at - you probably have Dice just a little higher than I'm comfortable with at this point, Laine maybe just a hair low - but a few things don't really sit right with me.

 

-Why did Thane get his own group, separate from the other nulls?

-Darthe below Tina and Zander seems strange to me.  He's almost completely null to me.  I don't love his activity this game, but he's both a particularly loud townie and particularly loud mafia, so I don't think it's indicative in either direction.

-Wish at the very bottom surprised the hell out of me.  I know you weren't feeling good about her, but I don't feel you've given her nearly enough attention to make that read sit right with me.  What are you seeing there that I'm not?

Posted
  On 6/7/2016 at 2:38 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Ive been antagonistic to a couple of players.

 

What do you think clov? Did i shut you down or did you tacitly concede that your argument was bs.

 

I don't think you "shut me down", and my argument was correct.  I'm sorry I'm trying to look at the big picture.

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  On 6/6/2016 at 6:07 PM, Niniel said:

 

  On 6/6/2016 at 4:44 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 6/6/2016 at 8:58 AM, Niniel said:

Feeling townie: BFG, Hallia, maybe seph.

Not feeling good about: Zander, Katiora, Silly

 

 

I´m tempted to just follow BFG in this game. 

 

[v] Zander [/v]

 

 

I agree with whoever said it that it looked like Zander asked questions that wouldn´t lead anywhere. 

 

You pulled this same crap in Ghostbusters.

 

This post is just overall gross.

 

Youre gonna sheep BFG for #raisins?

 

Youre voting me for #raisins as well.

 

What has Kat done to warrant a read either way at all?

 

 

This is the post you are refering to? I have answered all of this already. 

 

I don´t know what I did then compared to what I do now but there is a difference - I´m town this time.

 

BFG is the one I trust most so far.

 

I´m voting you for making "fake" questions. And it feels like you are doing it again.

 

I was wrong about Kat. 

 

ok this post bugs me extremely.

earlier she said she was voting zander by sheeping bfg  right? now she is voting for the bold, which is something I brought up. I also brought this up last game, when he turned out to be town and my goal was to try and kickstart him a bit, and get him away from those types of things. when he does he is pretty obv town imo.

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Yeah, okay, I'm here, I will actually post my isos

 

ayy

 

Stork hasn't been here because he's playing another game and also the free time we have we usually use for uhhh... non-Mafia, couple-stuff

 

so ya, I've kind of been doing all the work on my own :/ I'll go bug him later

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  On 6/7/2016 at 2:49 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 2:38 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Ive been antagonistic to a couple of players.

What do you think clov? Did i shut you down or did you tacitly concede that your argument was bs.

 

 

I don't think you "shut me down", and my argument was correct.  I'm sorry I'm trying to look at the big picture.

Nope. You did a bad job. took one comment made a big deal of it acted like a single vague line was supposed to influence thread. And despite lack of evidence of a pattern said i was trying to shade seph.

 

Your read was one of those lazy halfassed reads that have no backbone.

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  On 6/7/2016 at 2:56 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 2:49 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 2:38 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Ive been antagonistic to a couple of players.

What do you think clov? Did i shut you down or did you tacitly concede that your argument was bs.

 

I don't think you "shut me down", and my argument was correct.  I'm sorry I'm trying to look at the big picture.

Nope. You did a bad job. took one comment made a big deal of it acted like a single vague line was supposed to influence thread. And despite lack of evidence of a pattern said i was trying to shade seph.

 

Your read was one of those lazy halfassed reads that have no backbone.

 

 

No, I really didn't.  I took something you said that stood out for seemingly having a disconnect between what you were saying and how you were treating him - not to mention you  literally contradicting yourself by saying he'd do something as scum and then saying you don't know what he'd do as scum.  Lack of evidence of a pattern?  True.  And if that mattered for anything, you'd have a point, but it doesn't.  There doesn't need to be a pattern.  

 

The "backbone" is called the thread.

Posted
  On 6/7/2016 at 3:05 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Peace though.

 

You read too much ino 4 words or so. So obvious but if you cant admit you did wrong i dont want to force the issue.

 

I read too much into things in a game that requires me to read into things.  Go.  Figure.

 

If by "did wrong" you mean "was wrong", I actually think you're right.  My guess right now is that you're town, which mean my initial suspicion of you was wrong.  Next time I will default to "this guy doesn't know what he's doing", rather than "this guy is purposely doing it."

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part 1ish sorta

 

 

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I think youre being silly clov. I knew what i was doing. You didnt. Fine but you didnt look for evidence. That happens a lot. I just dont like it that you never admitted to the farce despite getting me to waste pages of time detailing a really trivial thing.

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  On 6/7/2016 at 3:25 PM, wish-tree said:

also, don't call me cute. I saw that.

hey cutie, what are your reads :)

Posted
  On 6/7/2016 at 10:13 AM, dicetosser1 said:

dammit i cut #960 down!!!\

 

 

@kat   twice uve said ure read on me could "change quickly"   why?

 

 

Dice I said it could change quickly because I'm not really getting a bad vibe from you, but you haven't done anything to really make me say "oh yeah Dice really looks town this game" which means that I"m waiting for that... And if you do something scumish it'll make me think you're probably not townie :sadface At this point you are only slightly better than Null which means you could go scum really quick *nods* I do feel SLIGHTLY better from you since you have been on during the night, but you're just no the dice I remember from other games that is really going after stuff, so I don't know. 

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  On 6/7/2016 at 12:32 PM, Lizabeth said:

1. Ummm....I already explained this to Zander. Zander asking the same question over and over again without progression is what reminded me of scum!Zander. What I've heard/seen of town!Zander is that he's stubborn, but repeatedly asking things like "explain in detail this gut read that you have on player x" over and over again to the same response "it's a gut read! what else do you want me to say!" reminded me of what he did to me in Mafia Karts.

2. I didn't change my mind on Lenore. I said I thought she and Zander's (early) argument looked like town vs. town to me based on how I've seen her play town in the past.

3. Yes  :wink:

4. Awwwww  :blush:

 

 

You misunderstood me.  I know you told Zander what made you switch to scumreading him.  What I don't understand is why you were townreading him.  You've seen him be stubborn as mafia, so I don't imagine that would be it.  And I know when you and I were discussing Chrono Trigger, you didn't understand why people were townreading Zander, given that he had a lot of posts that said little and he reacted rather aggressively to anybody who's pushed him.  

 

IIRC I explained he does both of those regardless of alignment, but if it was enough to (correctly) rub you the wrong way there, I would expect a similarish reaction here.

 

 

IRT Lenore...then you're townreading her still?  I don't remember what you said, but I remember you said you were (past tense) reading her as town.  That made me think it wasn't the case any more.

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 12:34 PM, Lizabeth said:

 

  On 6/7/2016 at 8:51 AM, Clovdyx said:

Actually there's probably a half dozen or so players I wouldn't be upset about if they were the lynch right now.

 

There's pretty much no chance I'm voting BFG, Seph, Sili, Hallia, or Alanna today.  Maybe throw in Liz and Dice.

why Dice?

 

 

A few small things.  One, I agree with some of his thoughts, and the ones I don't don't seem so out there that I can't see them coming from town!Dice.  Two, I've liked the aggression/frustration that I've kind of gotten from him.  I don't know how to really illustrate the difference between him as town and mafia, but I think he's more likely to have a sharpness to him as town.

 

The fact he kind of got at Lenlo probably factors in.

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  On 6/7/2016 at 3:34 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Hard to respond when on phobe

I totally agree with this... i hate trying to post in here on my phone... :sad: 

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