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[Advanced]Lost mafia - Game over - Sili, SK wins!

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basically darthe's response was submissive which is unusual for darthe. tbh he is rather snide or aggressive, especially with players he thinks are playing badly. that he wasn't this way with celeste there suggests he has tmi and celeste is town.

 

Darthe switching from Dom to Sub is prolly cause for concern?

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Shes also playing the inexperienced player card in terms of her town game, yet at the same time playing the experienced wolf card. You cant play both. Yeah, so youve never towned before but youve been on the receiving end of good towns. You know what to do, what to look for how to spot wolves because your supposedly an experienced one.

 

You dont get to play both the experienced and inexperienced cards at the same time.

 

I feel like youre trying hard to paint a narrative her Lenlo.

 

Just because someone is good at robbing banks automatically means they would be a good cop???

 

Thats BS.

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People who never expressed interest in voting Kiv, like me and Turin, did not cause Hallias lynch. Thats like saying the doc caused the NK because the protected the wrong person.

 

No, of the people on Hallias train I dare say Besie is one of the most accountable as she had been voting Kiv, had secured Kivs lynch effectively, but then said no.

You could have moved your votes.

 

Im not saying that you are but this line of reasoning we can argue balls and strikes over all day,

Could have, but I made it very clear I wasnt voting Kiv. Made that clear hours before hand. No one could reasonably expect me to move. Besie though had been voting him for hours. 10 seconds before deadline? Unvote go random. Its not just the unvote Z its the timing.

Sure. Blame me for Hallia's VT flip.

 

I trusted her VT claim. Are hou ignoring Kiv's? Do you think he's lying?

You trusted Her VT claim? So you unvote Kiv? Or are you saying to trusted Kivs claim, which was an expected claim btw I dont know why you believe it when its something you should have been expecting him to say the entire time he was being run up.

 

I dont understand why a VT claim is so easy for you to just trust. You went from lynching him to trusting him completely in 1 second flat.

This.

 

I don't get at all how you went from sussing people to trusting them from a VT claim, the most common fake claim by far.

 

 

Probably inexperience.

 

 

 

 

 

He isn't. Who's the other mason?

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I'm cool with that.

 

One of Bessie or Zander is probably a wolf this game btw.  The thing Bessie did at EoD is directly anti-town and her post about affecting her town game to be like her wolf game is actively memorable to me. 

 

 

 

Yes... I thought we'd sorted this out beginning D1. I know how to wolf. I've only wolved up till now. I'm not sure how to town. Apparently, it kinda sucks.

 

Zander knows what I'm like as wolf - he's been there everytime. He has more experience than any of you to know the difference when he sees it.

 

I am town. Imo I prolly won't be NK'd by the scum cause I'm an easy lynch. I might be vigged, if there's one out there that thinks I am scum (you'd be wrong).

 

Hmm... Not as explicit as I thought she had done. Thought she had used it more, but on looking back it wasnt entirely her so its not as bad as I thought.

 

This was the most egregious one I could find though. I ask her why she could believe a VT claim so easily, claim inexperience.

 

In the second one though she says "I know how to wolf. I've only wolved up till now. I'm not sure how to town. Apparently, it kinda sucks.", which is basically the inexperience card.  As I said not as bad as I thought it was, but its still there. Might be some I missed cause I was using key words to search through for rather then rereading every single one of her posts.

 

 

Convenient imo.

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Bes: so many reasons. here is the sk reasoning again. SK just wants anyone other than themselves to die. From that standpoint the poll plan makes great sense. It looks townie on the surface but leaves no real trail as she was just following the consensus. It also explains some of the clunky things. Afaik she hasn't played that role before. It is tough to walk the right line if you haven't towned before. So the inexperienced line can be true but the town part isn't. She can roll with her twtbaw line as well. I don't buy it. I also don't buy the back off due to the vt claims. I don't think she was voting me previously but I haven't got my computer out to look.

This makes somewhat more sense to me than what Lenlo was saying last night.

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Hmm... Not as explicit as I thought she had done. Thought she had used it more, but on looking back it wasnt entirely her so its not as bad as I thought.

 

This was the most egregious one I could find though. I ask her why she could believe a VT claim so easily, claim inexperience.

 

In the second one though she says "I know how to wolf. I've only wolved up till now. I'm not sure how to town. Apparently, it kinda sucks.", which is basically the inexperience card.  As I said not as bad as I thought it was, but its still there. Might be some I missed cause I was using key words to search through for rather then rereading every single one of her posts.

hmmmmyeah, I remembered reading a post earlier that came off to me like she was saying "I'm a great townie" and sort of rolling my eyes because she'd never towned before, which was why I asked. I don't know that it amounts to much though. It's kind of striking in that post how confident she is on Zander's alignment though.

 

 

If Town!Besie was gonna try and find someone to trust in this game. 

 

Is her picking me really a surprise man?

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Zander should resolve Nyn's slot for us today.  Hopefully.  Going to be a bit trickier than usual because if scum he has a full phase of town memories to work with but I still think I'll have a good grasp on that slot before EoD.

 

Im catching up now boo.

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Bes: so many reasons. here is the sk reasoning again. SK just wants anyone other than themselves to die. From that standpoint the poll plan makes great sense. It looks townie on the surface but leaves no real trail as she was just following the consensus. It also explains some of the clunky things. Afaik she hasn't played that role before. It is tough to walk the right line if you haven't towned before. So the inexperienced line can be true but the town part isn't. She can roll with her twtbaw line as well. I don't buy it. I also don't buy the back off due to the vt claims. I don't think she was voting me previously but I haven't got my computer out to look.

This makes somewhat more sense to me than what Lenlo was saying last night.

This makes more sense to me too, honestly. I still wouldn't want to draw attention to myself if I was SK. Especially not if I was SK.

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I feel so handicapped by being an outed town in this game.

 

Like my sword of righteous fury has been stripped from me in favor of a pretty princess gown.

 

I wish I could just be VT in all games always.

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Bes: so many reasons. here is the sk reasoning again. SK just wants anyone other than themselves to die. From that standpoint the poll plan makes great sense. It looks townie on the surface but leaves no real trail as she was just following the consensus. It also explains some of the clunky things. Afaik she hasn't played that role before. It is tough to walk the right line if you haven't towned before. So the inexperienced line can be true but the town part isn't. She can roll with her twtbaw line as well. I don't buy it. I also don't buy the back off due to the vt claims. I don't think she was voting me previously but I haven't got my computer out to look.

This makes somewhat more sense to me than what Lenlo was saying last night.

This makes more sense to me too, honestly. I still wouldn't want to draw attention to myself if I was SK. Especially not if I was SK.

 

 

*nod* It's a lot of WIFOM for both of you really.

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I feel so handicapped by being an outed town in this game.

 

Like my sword of righteous fury has been stripped from me in favor of a pretty princess gown.

 

I wish I could just be VT in all games always.

Like, I understand that you're outed town, but to me that's good 'cause I've been reading your and Thane's opinions as town opinions. It's bad for you, because scum knows you can only be NK'd, and not mislynched or vigged... wait...

 

Why weren't either you or Thane NK'd?

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Darthe and Penny need to step up and they're probably both aware of it.  Nulls only live so long as there are scummy people about.

 

Agree completely here.

 

 

can we hammer besie yet? i feel like it should be possible. i want answers not information.

 

No

 

And Sili is prolly Town for posts like these....lololololololol

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Because we're deep wolfin ldo

Lol, Shad. I'm just wondering. Are they playing with our minds, or did they rather go for a possible PR? But that would mean they assumed you and Thane were VT. Are masons always VT's?

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Thane and I are formally confirmed town to each other.

 

Masons are always v/v pending an oblivious mod.

 

Non-confirmed equivalent is neighbors.

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In my honest opinion, I wasn't NK'd because

1) my reads were completely wrong

2) I could easily be a mislynch D2.

 

I'm hoping it's rather reason #2 than #1. Because if my reads are that bad - as it has been (with regards to Kivam and Hallia) then... :(

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Thane and I are formally confirmed town to each other.

 

Masons are always v/v pending an oblivious mod.

 

Non-confirmed equivalent is neighbors.

Does v stand for "vanilla"? Sorry, I should prolly just read up on this myself

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Lol Len

 

I'm leaving it to 50/50. I am for both Hallia and Kivam, so let's see.

Yeah I know. What happened to trusting your town core Bess? I thought 6 voices were better then 1? I thought you were bringing them togther to FIGHT THE RANDOM

 

Lol Len. I don't see what your problem is, honey. It was an idea that you obviously hated. Only 3 towns actually went for the plan.

 

 

 

This is the 3 townies quote. Two are already confirmed. I think Sili is town also. It is starting to look like a TMI slip by Bes.

 

Also check out Seph at EoD. He jumps Kiv to 5 votes.

Kiv claims VT.

Seph switches to Hallia, leaving Kiv at 4.

Hallia claims VT.

Seph unvotes. Then votes Bes.

Then Bes switched to me creating the random.

 

His bes vote may have happened before or after bes switch to me.

 

 

I think they are likely w/w.

 

Gods but I do like Turin in this game. If he's a wolf Besie's making it too easy for him.

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I no longer think that Besie is scum, just playing badly. It's hard to distinguish those sometimes.

 

I dont think shes even playing badly. 

 

I just think she believed the claims.

 

Like in last game, GiaPenneh and Hallia claimed early and were both Town.

 

Just my 2000000 cents worth.

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Ive already said though, you cant play both cards at once. She knows what good town looks like. She knows what good wolves do and thus how to find them. Being experienced at wolfing means that, on some level, you know what to look for/do as a towny almost as much as having played town, because a good wolf has to fake being a good town.

 

Like, to be a good wolf you have to learn to fake being a good town. I refuse to believe she hasnt picked up on that to atleast some extent. You dont get to play both of those cards when they relate like this.

 

Im having serious trouble in believing Town!Lenlo CAN'T believe Besie CAN'T just be inexperienced Town.

 

Like it doesnt seem to be something he's even willing to factor in.

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[v]besie[/v]

 

 

wut has besie done? she been around but noting yet. she gave up. lynch her. finish. clap and celebrate post lynch-scene imo.

 

This is awful.  This post came at 430 am her time.

 

If this is the reasoning its bad.

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