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Im starting to doubt my celeste read purely because of those on her train and whats happening now

Elaborate on what you were thinking here.

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I just skimmed to catch up. nothing I saw has changed my mind on the lynch.

sorry shad Ill answer anything you need but I lost alot of wim after hallia, and I am currently just not in a good mood.

You made a huge flipflop of never lynching Besie vote!Turin to rolling with Turin on a Besie lynch and it wasn't really clear to me why.

 

You posted a suspect list that didn't seem to make much sense and atm I'm not going to dig it up for the specifics but you should be able to give me a more detailed breakdown of who and why now anyway.

 

You were kind of pop-in-ish and didn't make much sense to me in general and it seemed alarming because I felt like you were super into the game D1.

 

I remember in ToS you continued to dominate the thread even when it was fairly likely town had already mechanically lost.

 

It just feels generally odd and I don't want to end up mislynching you down the line if you're a villa.

 

I agree with most of this post. Had 80% the same thoughts. I just can't really see him being town anymore.

 

How will it affect your judgement of him if I flip town?

 

To clarify, if turin flips/is peeked wolf, I will admit I am most likely wrong on Besie being wolf

Sorry, what? I'm a bit surprised, tbqh. And how will your Turin thoughts be effected if I flip town?

 

 

 

 

Seems to me Zander is doing it for her.

Quite a gambit, considering he got shot.

 

I dont think it's a gambit. I think he really has no skill for shedding his outside the game bias of her. Some folks do that stuff.

 

This was about Besie, not Zander. /shrug

 

So with these posts, you say Zander got shot. There's 4 options that can see:

 

1. In the world where I am scum - why would I ever shoot (NK) Zander? He was the person top town reading me.

2. In the world where I am scum -someone else might have vigged him - and I don't see why, unless they were certain that I was scum, and made him scum by association. We'll have to go see who had me as scum before end N1 to identify if there was someone. There was quite a few votes on me, but it'll be interesting to see how many of them were solid, consistently, scum reading me.

3. In the world where I am town - the scum could have shot Zander because he is the person that wasn't even a doubt of being town on most minds. He was the only one that had me as solid town read. When someone said "the scum usually want the town to remain dead" - this made sense to me. Cause if the latter reason is the right one (or at least part of the reason), then him subbing in is quite an annoyance.

4. In the world where I am town - Zander was vigged. This, I don't get at all. He wasn't thought to be scum.

 

So. Considering that I actually am town this game, and #4 does not make sense at all, it's safe for me to assume that #3 is the most likely to have occurred. Most. Likely.

 

I think Kivam might have been killed because of his claim. Zander is the kill I don't understand.

Agreed with the latter.

 

it's a lot easier to be confident in a train when the subject of the train isn't around to act emotional and confuse me.

Who are you talking about here?

 

 

Moot point now, cuz she has been lynched, but I noticed her say "if I flip town" not "when I flip town" a lot here.

 

fwiw this is a really towny post for Eldrick to make. Still got a lot to show me though brother.

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For future reference, shifting votes seconds before the EoD is a very bad idea. Very very bad.

Believe me I am well aware of the stupidity of my actions.

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Without a doubt. Consider her already having my vote.

Can you show me where you stood on Celeste previously? I remember you thinking she might be wolf if Besie was.

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I'm back and I have major thoughts regarding the EoD claim of Turin. I highly doubt Turin is a Town Busdriver mainly because that role is more designed for mafia rather than town. NOW PLEASE ACTUALLY READ THIS POST OF MINE DESPITE MY SELF PRES VOTE EARLIER. I saw somewhere that it was in the Town of Salem game here which is based on town of salem and I don't think you should take the fact that a town busdriver was in that game when the actual ToS games balance is really bad. I have played there. This makes me think he is scum. It also explains the tmi a bit from earlier. Just look here for the jist of the Bus driver role.

 

http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/database/mafia-roles/role/?mafiarole=Bus%20Driver

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I'm back and I have major thoughts regarding the EoD claim of Turin. I highly doubt Turin is a Town Busdriver mainly because that role is more designed for mafia rather than town. NOW PLEASE ACTUALLY READ THIS POST OF MINE DESPITE MY SELF PRES VOTE EARLIER. I saw somewhere that it was in the Town of Salem game here which is based on town of salem and I don't think you should take the fact that a town busdriver was in that game when the actual ToS games balance is really bad. I have played there. This makes me think he is scum. It also explains the tmi a bit from earlier. Just look here for the jist of the Bus driver role.

 

http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/database/mafia-roles/role/?mafiarole=Bus%20Driver

Ok well, I was leaning town on him without the claim. I'm not going to lynch someone strictly on assumptions about Sooh's set-up.

 

You're late on your homework.

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And you're the one person I don't need. :tongue:

that hurt my feelings :sad:

 

Well, the thing is I happen to already know you are a villager.  ;)

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I'm back and I have major thoughts regarding the EoD claim of Turin. I highly doubt Turin is a Town Busdriver mainly because that role is more designed for mafia rather than town. NOW PLEASE ACTUALLY READ THIS POST OF MINE DESPITE MY SELF PRES VOTE EARLIER. I saw somewhere that it was in the Town of Salem game here which is based on town of salem and I don't think you should take the fact that a town busdriver was in that game when the actual ToS games balance is really bad. I have played there. This makes me think he is scum. It also explains the tmi a bit from earlier. Just look here for the jist of the Bus driver role.

 

http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/database/mafia-roles/role/?mafiarole=Bus%20Driver

Ok well, I was leaning town on him without the claim. I'm not going to lynch someone strictly on assumptions about Sooh's set-up.

 

You're late on your homework.

 

I'm still reading his posts but almost done.

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Celeste: from your point of view, have you done enough to convince us you're town, or not?

Yes, because I don't see this being how I act when playing as mafia. 

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I never got why everyone thinks Lenlo is obvious town but whatever I guess I'll just be that guy.

Because I am? I'm never wolf and never this active/motivated as wolf
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Hey Shad can you get on this Dice/Darthe thing for a moment?  Does it look interesting?

About the only negative is that he didn't bring up the rebuttal I expected most.

 

The activity talk is benign because it's objectively wrong. Dice's activity is not even close to being outside of his town range and he can argue that all day whatever his alignment.

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I never got why everyone thinks Lenlo is obvious town but whatever I guess I'll just be that guy.

Because I am? I'm never wolf and never this active/motivated as wolf

 

Thoughts on Zander?

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And I don't think you've been mafia in almost a year now but I know you feel a sort of moral obligation to not let down your team, and generally speaking that's going to be naturally stronger when you know who your team is, so I think you're going to have higher WIM as a wolf than the average bear.

 

But suffice to say I haven't been leading a charge on you or anything, I'm just suspicious where most players aren't in this case.

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