MAFIA KART WII [BASIC] - Mafia Sweep

[seph]

 

 

 

 

. Darthe  Town

4. Sili Quirrels- Town, I don't see how sili is mafia this game. if he is kudos

3. Zander- zander was pushing celeste on a few things I noticed, and I liked a few things he and alanna talked about. I had him as a stronger town read despite the tunnel.

10. Lizabeth- town- I would look at liz more carefully if i had time.

7. alannalynn-slight town

 

5. Zevrynne-derp. if caldur is mafia then town

6. Calder-meh want to lean town from a few posts. but meh

8. Clovdyx having a hard time reading him. He is down here just from poe

2. Thane Vakarian

2. Hallia  I suck at reading her- null

11. Celeste- I remember having alot of issues with her tone, and I like some of the points zander brought up.

 

 

I don't think i am ever lynching darthe sili or zander this game

You want to lynch from nulls and people you don't read well and those you need to read up more on?

 

.....

 

 

well I don't think lynching from my town is a good idea do you

 

That's not the point I was making.

It's one thing saying "I have a scum read on this person and I'm wtl them because x, y, z" but it's entirely different to day "these are my towns" and "these are my nulls/people I don't read well, let's lynch from this group"

 

 

5. Zevrynne-derp. if caldur is mafia then town

6. Calder-meh want to lean town from a few posts. but meh

8. Clovdyx having a hard time reading him. He is down here just from poe

2. Thane Vakarian

2. Hallia  I suck at reading her- null

11. Celeste- I remember having alot of issues with her tone, and I like some of the points zander brought up.

Zev: exactly null

 

Calder: "I want him to be town from a few posts but I'm still wtl him"

 

Clov: can't read him, so he's poe

 

Thane.

 

Hally: I suck at reading her, let's lynch her

 

Celeste: bad tone and zander makes sense

 

Literally the ONLY real scum read you have is Celeste because that's the only one you gave a reason on

 

like i said, im not lynching from my town list. wth are you getting at here?

I have to lynch from my nulls after my mafia is gone.

[alannalynn]

So your only lynching Celeste today?

 

If you don't get the point I'm trying to make then I'm giving up trying to make it.

[seph]

So your only lynching Celeste today?

 

If you don't get the point I'm trying to make then I'm giving up trying to make it.

at the moment that would seem to be the case wouldn't it..................................................................................

[alannalynn]

I'm saying that you're not supporting your reads in your second pile enough to say you're up for lynching any of them today when you said "lynch from the bottom up, they're not ordered" or some such. I just don't get it.  I'm trying to understand how they're all equally likely to be lynched by you without more progress in understanding their alignment.

[Sili Quirrels]

seph yo, why you now an wim-husk?

[Sili Quirrels]

[v]liz[/v]

[alannalynn]

I'm a little confused by the circumstances of whatever Clov did to upset Seph. I saw mention of it but didn't see/read anything on thread that indicated Seph was upset and didn't want to play/lost WIM

[alannalynn]

[v]liz[/v]

hm.

[alannalynn]

I'm like the worst parts of Dice and EP combined

This is the best thing I've read all game

[seph]

I'm a little confused by the circumstances of whatever Clov did to upset Seph. I saw mention of it but didn't see/read anything on thread that indicated Seph was upset and didn't want to play/lost WIM

we can just drop it. no need for discussions.

 

seph yo, why you now an wim-husk?

huh

 

I'm saying that you're not supporting your reads in your second pile enough to say you're up for lynching any of them today when you said "lynch from the bottom up, they're not ordered" or some such. I just don't get it.  I'm trying to understand how they're all equally likely to be lynched by you without more progress in understanding their alignment.

I recently spoke out about thane, and clov. But there isn't much to go on for some people, so I don;t know what you want from me

[alannalynn]

 

I'm saying that you're not supporting your reads in your second pile enough to say you're up for lynching any of them today when you said "lynch from the bottom up, they're not ordered" or some such. I just don't get it.  I'm trying to understand how they're all equally likely to be lynched by you without more progress in understanding their alignment.

I recently spoke out about thane, and clov. But there isn't much to go on for some people, so I don;t know what you want from me

 

You did? I didn't see that.

 

5. Zevrynne-derp. if caldur is mafia then town

6. Calder-meh want to lean town from a few posts. but meh

8. Clovdyx having a hard time reading him. He is down here just from poe

2. Thane Vakarian

2. Hallia  I suck at reading her- null

11. Celeste- I remember having alot of issues with her tone, and I like some of the points zander brought up.

Zev has two posts so I don't really expect anything.

I know Calder is a hard read, but why specifically aren't you leaning town on him?

What do you have against Clov that he's in your POE?

Thane has posted reads list and has had enough posts to at least get a tone read off of

If you suck at reading someone, you shouldn't just lynch them to make it easier (Hally)

Which points of Zander's did you like irt Celeste?

[Sili Quirrels]

 

[v]liz[/v]

hm.

 

 

for this sequence:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, shots fired Liz. Lol.

 

Do you think my comments on your productivity are fair?

 

 

I was referring to the "(rumours)" comment. 

 

On the productivity comment - I am never really super productive early on. Seems a real odd push since that is pretty well known. I usually go after one person, poke around, and play. So maybe I don't get it.

 

How is it an odd push if I don't actually know your meta.

 

All I know is what rumours tell me...the rumours didn't inform me of your d1 play. So that seems like an odd defense...

 

 

Well your discussing D1 productivity. So I don't get what you find odd about me talking about my play reputation?

 

Oh, I just find it odd that you would expect me to know your meta that specifically automatically and therefore find it odd that I wouldn't know that.

 

I'm just talking productivity in general, actually.

 

So what direction do you think we should be taking things? If not you, who should I be pushing iyo?

 

in particular the highlighted which shows liz acting confused about calder's assumption of she understood his meta. it was explained. furthermore knowing more about his meta undermines liz's push yet such a thing goes unmentioned. the focus is on what excuse to use and how to turn it back on him.

[alannalynn]

I'm caught up? Not as detailed as I should be but I've skimmed the thread and that's going to have to be good enough, I'll just reference back as needed

[alannalynn]

???

[alannalynn]

I'm having trouble reading that post of hers properly due to sentence structure, tbh

[seph]

 

 

I'm saying that you're not supporting your reads in your second pile enough to say you're up for lynching any of them today when you said "lynch from the bottom up, they're not ordered" or some such. I just don't get it.  I'm trying to understand how they're all equally likely to be lynched by you without more progress in understanding their alignment.

I recently spoke out about thane, and clov. But there isn't much to go on for some people, so I don;t know what you want from me

 

You did? I didn't see that.

 

5. Zevrynne-derp. if caldur is mafia then town

6. Calder-meh want to lean town from a few posts. but meh

8. Clovdyx having a hard time reading him. He is down here just from poe

2. Thane Vakarian

2. Hallia  I suck at reading her- null

11. Celeste- I remember having alot of issues with her tone, and I like some of the points zander brought up.

Zev has two posts so I don't really expect anything.

I know Calder is a hard read, but why specifically aren't you leaning town on him?

What do you have against Clov that he's in your POE?

Thane has posted reads list and has had enough posts to at least get a tone read off of

If you suck at reading someone, you shouldn't just lynch them to make it easier (Hally)

Which points of Zander's did you like irt Celeste?

 

I said I felt better about calder with him being more involved. and he had a towny post I really liked back when I first posted back in the game. His tone has honestly been pretty good.

clov, is a slight town read

I didn't like thane's list.

hally is just in poe, I am not pushing for her lynch.

It was back when sili,clov, and his were discussing it, I am going to bed now so I am not gana go pull it up. sry but I am being lazy

[Sili Quirrels]

I looked at it for a while cause it pinged.

[Zander?]

Darthe I have made a case and you just choose to ignore it.

 

You did?

 

Can you show us this case?

[alannalynn]

hm

[Sili Quirrels]

It seems like lizs staple to keep pushing. She did it to celeste to but it was more justifiable in celestes case but still i can hear the irony in lizs voice when she finally says celeste knows her alignment. That line in particular combined with the fact the initial reasonto vote penny was likely minor and consequently there was no basis to suggest celeste should prove herself... And considering all that goes unmentioned by liz.. I got to say i suspect her.

[Zander?]

sup people.

I saw a couple things I wanted to respond to if I remember them right.

@zander- regarding thane I really didn't like his catch up post, which is why I left him where I did.

 

@ liz I don't really understand how you vote with your leading scum suspect? it;s pretty fishy

 

regarding clov I think I could move him up to a solid town for me after isoing him. He has touched on most of the key subjects ITT, and been leading a few of the discussions I thought were important. Besides his read on me, I agree with him on most subjects here.

 

Which one?

 

The reads list?

 

What about it did you not like?

 

 

seriously I don't think laine should be a lynch candidate.

 

I think I was wrong about one of zander/sili not sure which one.

but I Think [v] celeste [/v] is the best lynch today.

 

from here on out I will be checking in as much as possible, but its ganna be off and on

 

What drew you to that conclusion?

 

 

idk what you guys have against a style that observes and comments when she actually has something tangible to her. Why is it scummy to you? It's what I do every D1 and people always misinterpret it for scum play.

 

Because is looks like youre doing nothing Penny. 

 

There's no progression. no reads list and even the odd time when you use reasoning its very weak.

 

Give a reads list with reasoning.

 

Hell do an ISO on your progression for your Darthe, Calder and me reads.

 

Show us how you got there.

 

Ive been trying to tell you and help you but youre refusing and I dont see why you would atp. 

 

More then one person has been commenting on this and asking for these type of things.

[Sili Quirrels]

Ill quote the celest sequence later.

[alannalynn]

Anyone have a current VC? I"m about to pass out for bed and I want to know where we stand at least

[Sili Quirrels]

That celeste quote zander brought is ugly.

[Zander?]

Liked Thane's reads list for the most part, tone seems good. Probable town.

 

Zander's post re: Hally was good, I think it wasa #911, though some of the wording confused me and I don't see where he answered to clarify. Hally is still a null slot to me personally. I like that she's trying to catch up instead of giving up and becoming more frustrated

 

I could probably ignore all of Sili's posts and cut 20 pages off this game but that would be rude.

 

 

 

 

 

Gonna use some quotes since I'm more caught up.I'll give Zev a pass today but he's not going to get the same pass tomorrow. Hopefully he can get in here and get a feel for the game and provide some input, or I'm going to continue to have trouble reading him. I still don't know how you're even reading him, tbh

 

As for Hally, which posts are you referring to here?

 

<cutting quotes saves lives, kids>

Zander's making me thiink early in the morning. lol

 

Okay I don't exactly have anybody ordered, but I'll do some rough groups just to provide input

Sili- town, he's invested and reading other players, present and engaged with the thread. I don't like his read of me nor do I like him giving Zev a pass, but I'm not one to lynch inactives day 1 anyways

Seph- townish. liked his early push to get the thread going but I'm seeing it taper off a bit which is weakening the little bump I gave him. I'm going to need sustained prodding to keep a town read here. I also like how he held up against Clov's questioning, he came off townie in that interaction

Clov- town for now, with some tinfoil. Clov is consistently a hard read for me and I hesitate to let a read lull for too long on him (meaning lol!me in HP game); he's coming off town so far in his conversations with both Sili and Seph, as well as with Liz last night; I guess there's not really anything I can complain about wrt Clov, but he's not going to just slip up either, so it's not like I'm looking for that. Idk what I'm doing anyways lolol

Liz- was pretty conflicted on her during my catch up because I don't think I realized what to expect from her as a player... (@Celeste I still want you to talk to me about her??) but I'm okay giving her a townish lean pending some insight from Penny. Otherwise her tone is fine, if rather baiting imo, and she's aggressive on people giving her reads (uncomfortably so, for me )

Darthe- leaning town, just got good feels so far, he's not feeling slimy yet

 

Hally: totally null, she's on vacation, is rather reactive on thread, but I can see her being frustrated with how things are going so far while she's not able to catch up and say anthing

Zev: totally null, also inactive, being defended by Sili

Thane: null, don't remember any content posts from him, the ones he has posted have had good tone though

 

Calder- nullish, not sure, watching him from arms length, pending ISO

Celeste- ?? didn't like her earliest responses to Liz, she came off a little guilty to me, but I'm biased knowing that she tends to put foot in mouth before she levels out; at the same time I don't want want to give her a pass on it all. I would appreciate some answers to my questions earlier in my catchup though

Zander: no read yet, I need to talk to him a little and see his reads first, and understand where he's coming from. So far, not good though

 

 

Is your issue with lynching Zev exactly that: he's not been here?  If he were here and made a few quick posts, would that change your willingness at all?

 

Because, based on your reads list, not lynching inactives would take Hallia, Zev, and Thane off the list.  I'm assuming you're going to take all of your town reads off.  Is your lynch pool for today just those bottom three then?  

Swift

 

My issue with Zev is similar to what Thane said a few pages back: He's not here, he's null. It's great if we lynch him and he's a wolf, but if we lynch him and he's town, then we're one town down and don't have lynch info to go off of. If he was here and made some attempt at the thread that I could make a read off of, I might change my mind despite telling Sili I'd wait it out. I still don't see how the hell he has a read on him regardless but whatever

 

Hally and Thane have recently begun to catch up and have posted more than twice. I also have meta on them.

 

As for my wtl....???

I want to take a second look at Seph, Hally, Celeste, Zander. The others on my list are either solid null or null leaning town. Calder is a special circumstance and I have good feels for some reason. Seph is on my list because he started the game strong and has fallen off and I'm a hypocrite.

 

Bold:  What didnt I clarify?  Did you ask me something specific?

 

Really like most of this post.

 

Lainey's seeing eye to eye with me on a lot of things.

 

Especailly irt to Thane and Zev both together and separately

 

Why do you find me Scummy with the 2nd Bold?.

 

Is that the only reason you find him Scummy?