[Standard] The Matrix Reloaded - Game Over

[dicetosser1]

sili  lay off the phone playiong bro lol   and cory carries on about the way I write :D

[Thane Vakarian]

so, here's a couple of things. They follow up so it can change during the notes, which i will share spoilered:

 

 

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#79 Zander claims town again. Good, we'll see if you can hold that thought.

Rack seems quite aggresive/suspicious. Don't know him as player, we'll see how that'll go.

Shad votes Corylanna #84.. odd?

Got the impression game has started early this time, not a lot of D1 gibberish

Clov/Sili interaction, nothing too off with that

Cory votes Sooh #97 ?

#102. Defending for being suspicious? Someone who wouldn't be suspicious would be bad in game. 

#103-104 Can't really see sarcasm in acknowledging Zan as town. Also, I feel there's a sort of connection betwene Sooh and Nomi. 
In general Sooh strikes me as off untill now

#107 rack tunnel on Lenlo?

108 Nomi jokevotes Sili imo, 109 Hallia defends Lenlo? 

122 Sili gives townish reads... keep in mind.

page 7: Dice seems relaxed, but page feels odd. Still jokevoting at this point?

139: Agree with Lenlo

Sili seems off at this point.. regular him or not?

141 Yates is wolf for that one post? 

page 8: got the feel there's a Corylanna / Zan connection.

Rack feels off. Could be i don't know him, but short posts, no explaining. Odd

174 + 176 Dice and Lenlo both asking if Sili drunk? odd coincidence.

page 10: Shad and Yates seem ok to me

200: Nomi's town list seems too consencus like. No reads on other players? -> followed by unexplained vote on yates 201

206: Good post Laine: demands some info from 'new players'.

page  12: Cory-Sili interaction intersting. Cory-Clov seems ok to me, town-town
251 interesting post. 

lol'd at 252

278 Zander/Thane mindmeld

 

Rack/Nomi/Sooh drive by posting. Little shots and comments left and right, but lacking gameplay so far

Tabor seems ok, nothing that seems off to me so far. 

 

 

 

 

With all that in mind, the players i'll look into closely ar Rack, Sooh,Sili, Nomi, Hallia. 

Rack seems off. Can't get any idea on how he thinks, and giving us a line of thought would help.
Sooh seems town to some players, but i'm not convinced. Also, she still holds her vote on me after 2 days.. .wouldn't it be time to unvote? (No chocolate for you)

Sili: I dunno. I'll give him another day. But so far not convinced he's town. 

Nomi... started playing the past few pages, but i don't find the posts helpful a lot. Doesn't feel right, and i'll trust my gut for now.
Hallia: stepped up for Lenlo, most obvious of all players. It strikes me as odd at that point in the game. 

 

Most comfortable town so far would be Yates, Shad, Lenlo, Clov, Zan. 

 

For the other players, i still need to figure them out better. Null-ish so far.

 

Reads can change throughout the game, and I'll try to stay in here and be up to date *N*

[Thane Vakarian]

I find it nice to 'begin playing' when there's already something to work with *sips more coffee*

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't agree with a lot of what you just said Thane, but I still think that's a great post because it goes against the grain by a bit.

[Thane Vakarian]

it's a game we play. If we have diffirent opinions, that's ok. The game progresses. If we find common ground somewhere and still lynch all wolves this game, it works for me. 

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm going back and forth on rack. His early game pinged and now I have myself in a state where he's town if lenlo is town, and scum if lenlo is scum.

 

And yes I know that might seem counter-intuitive. I'd say he's worth attention, if not votes. Let's find out more.

[Thane Vakarian]

one can find out more when other players post. Can't get to know someone who doesn't post content

[Sili Quirrels]

Gn

[Sili Quirrels]

Is there a reason to think rack as wolf wldnt go ham on a townie?

[Thane Vakarian]

have an agressive wolf in the pack so the rest stays out of the picture? Possible.

[Sili Quirrels]

Honestly if len is town and rack isnt it looks like rack is trolling or rngd.

[Thane Vakarian]

i do think Lenlo is town this game. His play so far doesn't strike me as odd and seems quite alright. As for Rack... we can test his alignment quite easily, but DL is still far away. First, let's play a bit more.

[Sili Quirrels]

Rack dsnt have a wagon yet. Lenlo is leading

[Thane Vakarian]

actually, Len and Sooh are tied.... but the number of votes isn't really what i would call 'wagon worthy' 

 

[Zander?]

  On 10/26/2015 at 7:42 AM, Thane Vakarian said:

so, here's a couple of things. They follow up so it can change during the notes, which i will share spoilered:

 

 

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#79 Zander claims town again. Good, we'll see if you can hold that thought.

Rack seems quite aggresive/suspicious. Don't know him as player, we'll see how that'll go.

Shad votes Corylanna #84.. odd?

Got the impression game has started early this time, not a lot of D1 gibberish

Clov/Sili interaction, nothing too off with that

Cory votes Sooh #97 ?

#102. Defending for being suspicious? Someone who wouldn't be suspicious would be bad in game. 

#103-104 Can't really see sarcasm in acknowledging Zan as town. Also, I feel there's a sort of connection betwene Sooh and Nomi. 

In general Sooh strikes me as off untill now

#107 rack tunnel on Lenlo?

108 Nomi jokevotes Sili imo, 109 Hallia defends Lenlo? 

122 Sili gives townish reads... keep in mind.

page 7: Dice seems relaxed, but page feels odd. Still jokevoting at this point?

139: Agree with Lenlo

Sili seems off at this point.. regular him or not?

141 Yates is wolf for that one post? 

page 8: got the feel there's a Corylanna / Zan connection.

Rack feels off. Could be i don't know him, but short posts, no explaining. Odd

174 + 176 Dice and Lenlo both asking if Sili drunk? odd coincidence.

page 10: Shad and Yates seem ok to me

200: Nomi's town list seems too consencus like. No reads on other players? -> followed by unexplained vote on yates 201

206: Good post Laine: demands some info from 'new players'.

page  12: Cory-Sili interaction intersting. Cory-Clov seems ok to me, town-town

251 interesting post. 

lol'd at 252

278 Zander/Thane mindmeld

 

Rack/Nomi/Sooh drive by posting. Little shots and comments left and right, but lacking gameplay so far

Tabor seems ok, nothing that seems off to me so far. 

 

 

 

 

With all that in mind, the players i'll look into closely ar Rack, Sooh,Sili, Nomi, Hallia. 

 

Rack seems off. Can't get any idea on how he thinks, and giving us a line of thought would help.

Sooh seems town to some players, but i'm not convinced. Also, she still holds her vote on me after 2 days.. .wouldn't it be time to unvote? (No chocolate for you)

Sili: I dunno. I'll give him another day. But so far not convinced he's town. 

Nomi... started playing the past few pages, but i don't find the posts helpful a lot. Doesn't feel right, and i'll trust my gut for now.

Hallia: stepped up for Lenlo, most obvious of all players. It strikes me as odd at that point in the game. 

 

Most comfortable town so far would be Yates, Shad, Lenlo, Clov, Zan. 

 

For the other players, i still need to figure them out better. Null-ish so far.

 

Reads can change throughout the game, and I'll try to stay in here and be up to date *N*

 

fwiw:  i dont necessarily agree with all Thane's reads but I highly doubt wolf Thane puts this much effort into it this early imo.

[Askthepizzaguy]

  On 10/26/2015 at 8:03 AM, Thane Vakarian said:

i do think Lenlo is town this game. His play so far doesn't strike me as odd and seems quite alright. As for Rack... we can test his alignment quite easily, but DL is still far away. First, let's play a bit more.

 

Could you please find some of his posts and explain what you see that is townie contained within.

 

I want to know where you arrived at that conclusion and why, because I'm not seeing it. I know I haven't done these things yet, but leave that aside for the moment. I'm doing a thing.

[Askthepizzaguy]

  On 10/26/2015 at 8:14 AM, Zander said:

 

fwiw:  i dont necessarily agree with all Thane's reads but I highly doubt wolf Thane puts this much effort into it this early imo.

 

So we're mindmelding now? Good. Your journey toward the light side is complete.

 

I didn't even click the spoiler, I really should have done so. It's right there in front of my eyes and it didn't register in my brain for whatever reason. I need to take a look at this after I'm done.

[Thane Vakarian]

There are some notes on Lenlo in the spoiler there, but if you require more, than i would try and get some more. 

 

Also it works a bit both ways, the point of view. For example, i don't really see why people think Lenlo is wolfy. Seems odd to me.

[Zander?]

  On 10/26/2015 at 8:18 AM, Nomi Sunrider said:

 

  On 10/26/2015 at 8:14 AM, Zander said:

 

fwiw:  i dont necessarily agree with all Thane's reads but I highly doubt wolf Thane puts this much effort into it this early imo.

 

So we're mindmelding now? Good. Your journey toward the light side is complete.

 

I didn't even click the spoiler, I really should have done so. It's right there in front of my eyes and it didn't register in my brain for whatever reason. I need to take a look at this after I'm done.

 

[Zander?]

  On 10/26/2015 at 8:15 AM, Nomi Sunrider said:

 

  On 10/26/2015 at 8:03 AM, Thane Vakarian said:

i do think Lenlo is town this game. His play so far doesn't strike me as odd and seems quite alright. As for Rack... we can test his alignment quite easily, but DL is still far away. First, let's play a bit more.

 

Could you please find some of his posts and explain what you see that is townie contained within.

 

I want to know where you arrived at that conclusion and why, because I'm not seeing it. I know I haven't done these things yet, but leave that aside for the moment. I'm doing a thing.

 

 

 

  On 10/26/2015 at 8:22 AM, Thane Vakarian said:

There are some notes on Lenlo in the spoiler there, but if you require more, than i would try and get some more. 

 

Also it works a bit both ways, the point of view. For example, i don't really see why people think Lenlo is wolfy. Seems odd to me.

 

im with Nomi on this Thane.  I dont have a lot of Meta with Lenlo but the read list of his was not just bad reads from a good place imo but more a thrown together for the sake of throwing one together and that along with my guts are telling me he prolly a wolf.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I could go either way but I'm leaning wolf.

 

This isn't formatted to be readable this is my notes as i re-read this thing

 

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Opinion on BFG delayed until she has a chance to participate more.
Cory- Good beginning.
Hallia- ?
Shad- ?
rack- opening post was pingy.
Clovdyx- ?
Shad- possibly town.
Rack- ?
Sili- hmm.
Thane- blank space
Sooh-
Lenlo- opener was very pingy.
Sili- better.
Alanna- dunno what to think of that opener.
Sili- stop spamming
Zander- good opener
rack- no.
Shad- mild read of town
Clovdyx- ?
Hallia- ??
Lenlo- no good feelings yet
Rack- ? 107 is weird
Hallia- 109?
Sili - 122 I concur
Dice- Seems okay...
Lenlo- odd 129
Yates- agree on Clov
Taborline- waiting
Lenlo- pingy 139
rack- townier if Lenlo is town, not if Lenlo is mafia 155
Tabor- Curious. 165
I want Yates to disengage from Sili at this point unless they're voting each other.
I feel their back and forth is not solving.
lenlo- 175 makes me think there is scum inside of rack and lenlo.
Sili 187 I got the same feeling
Shad 195 seems good
Lenlo 197 still odd to me
Yates seems to have utterly ignored my poke vote
Alanna wants to know more about me, apologies.
206 thoughts read townie after @yates
Cory 208 concur
Hallia - ?
Clov- I agree with his reads. Dunno about Clov now.
Zander 244 agreed
Zander 246 I like you a lot. Just don't randomly reverse and kill the one you love out of sheer impulse like... you sometimes do. :)
Zander 247 drop the sooh.
Clov listing 3 townies and a neutral on my list as townies. Less sure. 248
Shad- there are better places than VS.
Dice 266 reads as truth, not hiding
Lenlo 275 update- mafia together with rack looking less likely
Zander 278 what I thought, also Zander town on tone here by miles
Sili's list 316 not where I started at the beginning but I'm getting much closer to this list
Agree on Hallia.

Thane 327 unique perspective is townier than not

 

When cory posts I feel energized, as if I have drank the elixir of the mongoose. Or ate it, whichever is applicable.

 

Sili

Zander

Corlanna

Thane

Shad

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Sooh

Dice

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Yates

Clov

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Tabor, BFG, Parlaya

Lenlo

Hallia

Rack

 

Conclusions- I don't have a desire to pull the trigger yet but I would talk about the bottom 8 more.

[Thane Vakarian]

Does a bad reads list automatically make you a wolf? It's pretty brave that he actually put out a list at all this early in game. 

 

I stated reads on people too. It was stated that i go against the grain. So, by that logic, i'm a wolf too? Bit thin there, Zan..

 

What i find interesting here is that there are only a few players up for inspection: Len, Rack... There are what, 16 slots in this game? Only talking about a couple of them would be bad. Early game, we need opinions on every player, seeing we may need those later in the game (should people actually decide to read back to what was said by a dead player)

 

Sooh is townish for people? Why? She had not blown me away at all, seems to be posting from the sidelines and not really involved at this point, for instance

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't have strong feelings on Sooh or Dice as being non-lynches, but I would give either more time.

[Askthepizzaguy]

  On 10/26/2015 at 8:45 AM, Thane Vakarian said:

Does a bad reads list automatically make you a wolf? It's pretty brave that he actually put out a list at all this early in game. 

 

I stated reads on people too. It was stated that i go against the grain. So, by that logic, i'm a wolf too? Bit thin there, Zan..

 

What i find interesting here is that there are only a few players up for inspection: Len, Rack... There are what, 16 slots in this game? Only talking about a couple of them would be bad. Early game, we need opinions on every player, seeing we may need those later in the game (should people actually decide to read back to what was said by a dead player)

 

Sooh is townish for people? Why? She had not blown me away at all, seems to be posting from the sidelines and not really involved at this point, for instance

 

I don't have a good answer for that. To give you more about my thinking here, observe Sili. Sili has done enough where you can get a general idea of his alignment by now. But a lot of players have not, so there's a lot of blank space and question marks on my note pad. I'm filling it in with my gut feelings but those aren't much to work with. I think Sooh's lack of depth is more about that than about being shy because evil.

 

I'm going out on a limb there, it's not sound. But it's where I am.

[Askthepizzaguy]

[v]Hallia[/v]

 

I nominate you for discussion and or lynch. I don't have a specific reason, I just don't know how you're a townie right now.

 

I'll give Lenlo more time due to my comfort level with his style, if not his alignment read so far.

 

Would vote rack.