Ragnarok Game Thread - Game Over, Town Wins!

[Celeste]

 

 

What I'm not getting is that some people refuse to answer people's posts and only pick and choose what they like answering, and they're calling Celeste out for, well, doing the same thing?

The irony. I've seen a lot of it this game. How is it this obvious and you guys aren't seeing it? I'm always super easy to lynch when I'm town.

I believe I'm a roleblocker of some sort because I did some research on my character. I targeted John Snow N1.

Remember how there were only two kills N1? One probably from town vig (who was Dice), and the other from either Loki/Mafia.

If I'm roleblocker, then I must have prevented a kill if both Loki and Mafia have NKs. John Snow is either Loki or Mafia.

This has what has been eating away at me. No one pointed that out, and it was so obvious to me. I've also been busy with friends, so I've had no time to post. RL is falling apart, and I'm kind of unstable atm, but Celeste hasn't been helping us look any more town, and I don't want to lose the ability I believe I can use for town.

@Sili: Earlier, I said that your posts made so much sense. I was being sarcastic. Could you read between the lines? I ISO'd you when you contradicted yourself. Are you that self-confident?

 

WOAH WOAH WOAH

What? Where does this come from?First how do you know your a RB? Second how can you guarantee Loki had a kill? Third how do you know your block, if you have any, went through on JS?

There's to many whats, to many questions, to many speculations with no barring in this post and I hate it.

I'm out right now, but when I get back I'll bring this up more and most likely vote uou. Just can't remember what the vote tags are right now

 

Excellent questions.

 

Why assume Loki has a kill?  Why does it eat at you that nobody pointed it out when it was "so obvious to you"?  It's not obvious at all in the theme here, in fact, it was pointed by others earlier that it's probably a better match with the theme for him NOT to.

I assume Loki has a kill because of his wincon. Last man standing is hard to achieve the best way to help achieve that is by a kill no? It's only speculation to think about it.

[Lenlo]

Survivors have to achieve a similar wincon with even less powers. Doesn't stop them

[wish-tree]

Yeah expect you have no way of knowing I'd they are correct with, imo, not enough to go on make a good guess.

 

Least not if you have the same amount of info any other town would have.

 

The whole RB and assuming your block went through or just happened to hit someone using a kill is silly to me. And how can you say there are 3 kills in the game without any extra knowledge?

 

It's all rather poor imo

Hi Lenlo. Read Celeste's below post. Thanks. <3

[Lenlo]

It answered nothing, just as you are currently doing

[wish-tree]

Survivors have to achieve a similar wincon with even less powers. Doesn't stop them

Survivors usually have a bulletproof vest or something.

 

Are you saying that Loki is a survivor type of 3P? Not an SK type?

[Lenlo]

I'd expect so imo.

 

I never had a bullet proof vest or anything when I get survivor roles.

[Celeste]

Yeah expect you have no way of knowing I'd they are correct with, imo, not enough to go on make a good guess.

Least not if you have the same amount of info any other town would have.

The whole RB and assuming your block went through or just happened to hit someone using a kill is silly to me. And how can you say there are 3 kills in the game without any extra knowledge?

It's all rather poor imo

It's all just speculation though. It's ideas to help figure out what kind of setup this is when we don't even know our roles. All we have to help right now is our vote so what's wrong with the idea that we can block kills?

[wish-tree]

It answered nothing, just as you are currently doing

I don't understand.

I've answered your question, yet you say it was meaningless? Why don't you see why your insistence that Loki doesn't have a kill doesn't make sense?

[Celeste]

I'd expect so imo.

I never had a bullet proof vest or anything when I get survivor roles.

Is that not the norm on this site?

[Lenlo]

It makes no less sense than your insistence that Loki has a kill and you have an RB and you just happened to block him somehow ending in 2 kills

[wish-tree]

I'd expect so imo.

 

I never had a bullet proof vest or anything when I get survivor roles.

Survivors with that kind of lack of power usually win together with either faction. In this case, we're out to hunt Loki. It would make no sense to not give him a power of any sort.

 

That's why I think he has redirect + NK per night.

[Lenlo]

I've only ever seen survivors with no powers.

[wish-tree]

It makes no less sense than your insistence that Loki has a kill and you have an RB and you just happened to block him somehow ending in 2 kills

???

 

1 kill: Mafia

1 kill: town vig

1 kill: Loki

 

Roleblock: 2 kills left.

[Lenlo]

He alreadt had a power though. Co NV fusing and hiding everyone's roles.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if u ts guaranteed none of them hit him for his own sdftey.

[wish-tree]

Also, apparently I'm forgetting to answer people's questions. Oops.

[Lenlo]

 

 

It makes no less sense than your insistence that Loki has a kill and you have an RB and you just happened to block him somehow ending in 2 kills

???

 

1 kill: Mafia

1 kill: town vig

1 kill: Loki

 

Roleblock: 2 kills left.

YOUR ASSUMING YOU HAVE AN RB AND THAT YOU HIT SOMEONE USING A KILL IN A GAME WITH RANDOM TARGETING OF ACTIONS.

[BFG]

I'd expect so imo.

 

I never had a bullet proof vest or anything when I get survivor roles.

Loki's win con is that he's last man standing, that isn't a Survivors win con, you know that?

 

It makes no less sense than your insistence that Loki has a kill and you have an RB and you just happened to block him somehow ending in 2 kills

Can't hate this though, especially given that ~2 people have claimed to be redirected

[Lenlo]

I said it's similar to a survivors wincon BFG.

[wish-tree]

 

 

It makes no less sense than your insistence that Loki has a kill and you have an RB and you just happened to block him somehow ending in 2 kills

???

 

1 kill: Mafia

1 kill: town vig

1 kill: Loki

 

Roleblock: 2 kills left.

YOUR ASSUMING YOU HAVE AN RB AND THAT YOU HIT SOMEONE USING A KILL IN A GAME WITH RANDOM TARGETING OF ACTIONS.

 

I'm pretty sure other people assumed that they were some role or another and used their roles anyway?

[wish-tree]

 

 

Wish those theories just seem so convolutwd. They require a lot of assumptions on your part to be right.

 

Cogito ergo sum.

 

Anything is possible. As I said, I have more information about myself than anyone else in this game atm (besides the two dead flips). That is why I have made the assumptions I've made, no?

 

How is this helpful, Wish? 

 

Helpful to what?

 

Atm my survival to me is important, because I'm convinced that I have an important role. Therefore, I am trying to save my behind. That is all.

[Lenlo]

And they have no guarantee that they are correct!

 

I got no info back, for all I know I could be freaking gunsmith or some other obscure role that never gets used.

[wish-tree]

I said it's similar to a survivors wincon BFG.

Sorry, it's similar to a SK wincon. That's why I don't buy this.

[Celeste]

@lenlo Also if Loki was survivor then why does mafia and town have to get rid of them? Is that a slip that I noticed?

[wish-tree]

@lenlo Also if Loki was survivor then why does mafia and town have to get rid of them? Is that a slip that I noticed?

Are you Loki, Lenlo? :shocked:

[wish-tree]

OMG

 

LENLO = LOKI

 

THIS PUSHING YIELDED SOME RESULTS

 

Even if I haven't done anything else helpful for town, I at least achieved this.