Ragnarok Game Thread - Game Over, Town Wins!

[dicetosser1]

Dice. Look at the second list. The colors messed up on that one. I think you were null/scum lean on her list.

 

she did it twice eld

[Leelou]

 

A) Yes, PoE is a big deal.

 

B) I know he is not content but his villager content feels different, afaict. He's invested an interested even when he pokes his head in. Here the only time he had a reaction to anything was to me accusing him of missing NAs before (which, afaik, could be legitimately untrue and he could get tickled by it in any role). I talked about this a bunch in my lecture post; specifically I remembered Wind in the Door, which you modded, where he had lapses of absences but made an early Tina = v read and was willing to defend it for the time he was there rather than just mailing in a reads list and leaving.

 

C) I know dice will give me his "volume doesn't matter!" shtick, but I have played 300+ long games and Mafia and REGARDLESS of what you personally believe, there is a discernible and provable trend that the average rate of posting is higher for a villager than a wolf. Consider it the home/away splits of Mafia, it's hard to understand and comprehend, but the statistics say it's real. That's as close to a "universal" Mafia role, and I just prefer lynching ~scummy inactive players to ~scummy active players for the most part because I have more confidence.

 

D) His content coming back in bothered me as well. Specifically his "Oh, Leelou and Cory are voting me. That's nothing new  " bit that seemed to be putting the onus on me and Leelou for "going at inactives" rather than actually caring about why he was being voted.

 

E) I really don't know to explain the massive resistance to his lynch, tbh. AFAICT nobody seems to actually think he's a villager*, but we can't lynch him because "no info" or whatever. Which is fine, I'm willing to compromise.

 

* Besides Verbal, and I don't know what world he is in right now

A) Wrong way to go about it

 

B) The way I got reads in this game is the exact way I get reads in any game I play. How I saw the connections between Mish and Talya. The slow buildup of votes on me etc. I don't see how it is any different from the Tina read I made in that game you are mentioning

 

C) That is a bad generalization. I don't want to bring up meta but I am usually more active when I am scum than town. It is the exact opposite of what you are saying - which is why a general rule cannot be applied everywhere

 

D) As said before, these are examples very similar to how I got the Tina read in the Wind in the Door game. Pure meta based. I observe how people react to various situations and what I said is a common trait in many game I have played with you or Leelou

 

E) Maybe because it is actually easier to catch me as scum as the game progresses? That is how it has always worked.

 

The point is I don't think you have ever read me properly D1. I have been mislynched or misrepped many times when we both were v/v and I think it is the same case here again. "I think" because I believe you are town here. And, that is what will bother you again today after I get lynched today.

 

 

Actually I don't really make a crusade on inactives on D1. So you are trying to use outdated meta. Your list was meh, which is why I haven't moved my vote. 

[dicetosser1]

unofficial VC

 

Occicat  3 votes

 

Pral 8 votes

 

Verb 3 votes

[John Snow]

 

I've finished Leelou's ISO. I find her content to be severely lacking, but it's not inherently scummy. It's been a while since I've played with Leelou, but I feel like there should definitely be more content from a Town Leelou. 

 

I'd like to look more into it D2. 

 

You aren't going to get more content from me until there are a lot less people in game or til after the 15th. Whichever comes first. Don't expect reads list with reasons. If you decide that makes me scummy, then so be it. 

 

 

It's the post volume to content ratio that bugs me. 

[dicetosser1]

Im staying put i think unless something really tweaks me in the next  hr and a half. I WONT be here for DL   thinks its like 2am my time

[John Snow]

unofficial VC

 

Occicat  3 votes

 

Pral 8 votes

 

Verb 3 votes

 

Unless Kiv's last VC was wrong, it's Oci 1, Pral 8, Verb 2

[Sili Quirrels]

I don't see what others are apparently seeing in Pral. Now that he's contributing, I'm liking what he has to say. Not voting him. Slight town.

 

I actually expected to see more from verb by now. Not opposed to his lynch, but I still feel stronger about Ocicat. I'll check back before the deadline after you morning people wake up.

While I like what he said about talya. He did the same to wombat and i in the unusual suspect game.

[Sili Quirrels]

unofficial VC

 

Occicat 3 votes

 

Pral 8 votes

 

Verb 3 votes

Good. Guess we need one more or we lunch verb but i will be asleep

[Sili Quirrels]

As i said to cory pralayas posts arent villagery. They are informative but wolves can inform or misinform. Pralaya tends to do the latter as a wolf.

 

And i doubt town pralaya has such good reads.

[Sili Quirrels]

^former, not latter pbviously.

[dicetosser1]

VOTE COUNT

Ocicat (3) - Tina, Dice, Eldrick

Pral (6) - KeyBOOSE, Leelou, Ocicat, Sooh, Lenlo, WishLESTE

Verbal (2) - Sili, Talya

WishLeste (1) - Mish

 

Not voting (5): Songstress, Verbal, Taborline, Pralaya, John Snow

 

9 to lynch

 

DEADLINE IS NOON EASTERN (GMT - 4) ON WEDNESDAY. No Majority = No lynch

 

 

 

since then Tress addeds a Verb vote and 2 Pral votes  Sili and snow? were added

[dicetosser1]

As i said to cory pralayas posts arent villagery. They are informative but wolves can inform or misinform. Pralaya tends to do the latter as a wolf.

 

And i doubt town pralaya has such good reads.

 

have you played with Pral much sili??  Cause he has a history of making some awesome reads even when inactive  early

[Sili Quirrels]

I think everyone has a good read now and again.

[Sili Quirrels]

8 ppl on one wagon. All in my town list.

[dicetosser1]

then id say you MUST be misclearing someone

[Sili Quirrels]

Maybe wolves dont care who we lunch though. Also a possibility lol

[Pralaya]

I am actually humoured here. Some people think my reads were meh and some think it is good. Both groups think I am scum, lol

[Sili Quirrels]

then id say you MUST be misclearing someone

must i?

[Sili Quirrels]

I am actually humoured here. Some people think my reads were meh and some think it is good. Both groups think I am scum, lol

Antispew.

[dicetosser1]

i havent made a decision on you pral  but im not keen who quick that train grew after sitting there all day long with cory begging for votes

[Sili Quirrels]

I am actually humoured here. Some people think my reads were meh and some think it is good. Both groups think I am scum, lol

Antispew.

[Sili Quirrels]

Get outed.

[Sili Quirrels]

No remorse for the wickid

[dicetosser1]

 

then id say you MUST be misclearing someone

must i?

 

 

I think so. Theres 9 people involved in that train including pral   thats more then half the game and i know you have at least one Townie not on there

[Sili Quirrels]

i havent made a decision on you pral but im not keen who quick that train grew after sitting there all day long with cory begging for votes

fice friend. It is a majority hammer. What u r seeing is ppl consolodating.