Ragnarok Game Thread - Game Over, Town Wins!

Sili Quirrels · August 31, 2015

Uh what?

No the problem is you are acting like a cornered wolf. If it is null you are conceding the pissibility it was a scums gambit and lee and verb interacted twice up to when i stopped. Verbal was saying nothing substantive.

Slander clearly refers to your suposition about sooh and i to cory.

And this all is ignoring the core of the reason i think you are a wolf and that is you treat cory amd lee very differently for no apparent reason.

Sili Quirrels · August 31, 2015

I'm not slandering you Sili, you said I baited Cory, I know I didn't so you must have made it up :p

start remembering your posts pls

Sili Quirrels · August 31, 2015

Restartinf sleep protocol.

Talya · August 31, 2015

Uh what?

No the problem is you are acting like a cornered wolf. If it is null you are conceding the pissibility it was a scums gambit and lee and verb interacted twice up to when i stopped. Verbal was saying nothing substantive.

Slander clearly refers to your suposition about sooh and i to cory.

And this all is ignoring the core of the reason i think you are a wolf and that is you treat cory amd lee very differently for no apparent reason.

Slander is for me to say you did something, I said it was something I FELT, there is a difference. So I wasn't slandering you, because I never said you did stage it.

Please show me what a corned wolf looks like, because I'm not one.

Sili Quirrels · August 31, 2015

Its when a wolf acts super emotional and uses semantics to win an argument.

Kivam · August 31, 2015

2 notes:

1, i deleted sili's multidoublepostapalooza

2, i hear corned wolf is great with mustard on rye

Kivam · August 31, 2015

VOTE COUNT

Eldrick (1) - Lenlo

Ocicat (3) - Tina, Dice, Eldrick

Talya (3) - WishLESTE, Sili, Ocicat

Not voting (10): Songstress, Leelou, Verbal, Taborline, Pralaya, Talya, Sooh, Keyboose, John Snow, Mish

9 to lynch

A DEADLINE WILL BE SET TODAY. No Majority = No lynch

Eldrick4221 · August 31, 2015

Eldrick does feel somewhat different this game. I can't point out anything specific as of right now since I'm at work, but the thought just struck me. I'll try to go back and look when I get home today.

I agree here, he usually reminds me of an eager puppy, they get excited and gives lots of wees and poos all over the place as well as some love. He isn't coming across like that here.

I actually like what I see here more, after reading his last few posts. Maybe the puppy is growing up? (PS Eld, I love puppies so didn't mean anything rude by it)

I'm trying to play better. I'm trying to not be the stream of thought I was before. So yes, it will come off as different. Hopefully in a good way.

Talya · August 31, 2015

I like it, If this is the new town Eld...then great!

michellem · August 31, 2015

I'm gonna need to reread the first 20 pages or so, I hardly remember them. Can't take a proper stance on the talya/lee/verb-discussion.

Note though, we did interact before that. Also, you guys need to stop holding the amount we interact as a read. Some days other things are going on and we don't interact that much on thread.

I agree. I can't even imagine how annoying it is to always be read based on the actions of another. I've never been a fan of when people do that.

Also Celeste: I would prefer if you went back and figured out wich post you tried to say it was me who had made. I don't like that you don't double check your facts before stating someone said something. It doesn't sit well with me that you tried to shove an opinion on me I never made.

Leelou · August 31, 2015

2 notes:

1, i deleted sili's multidoublepostapalooza

2, i hear corned wolf is great with mustard on rye

I prefer pumpernickel.

Leelou · August 31, 2015

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Note though, we did interact before that. Also, you guys need to stop holding the amount we interact as a read. Some days other things are going on and we don't interact that much on thread.

I agree. I can't even imagine how annoying it is to always be read based on the actions of another. I've never been a fan of when people do that.

<snip>

It's annoying. Let's say one of us is busy and just posts but we don't interact. Then OMG we must both be scum. I'll actually save my rant for after the game.

Eldrick4221 · August 31, 2015

<snip>

Note though, we did interact before that. Also, you guys need to stop holding the amount we interact as a read. Some days other things are going on and we don't interact that much on thread.

I agree. I can't even imagine how annoying it is to always be read based on the actions of another. I've never been a fan of when people do that.

<snip>

It's annoying. Let's say one of us is busy and just posts but we don't interact. Then OMG we must both be scum. I'll actually save my rant for after the game.

FWIW I don't do this to you guys. I go by what you say, not how you two interact with each other.

Leelou · August 31, 2015

@ Leelou, it's not bugging me, but I think your reason for voting is nullified, so it makes it interesting

But does that make my vote null?

I believe your vote is still being counted. But your reason for it, was what you thought Cory would do with it. Surely it would have been better to wait and see what he did with it. sometimes better to let it run to prove something. It looks worse for you for not letting that happen.

Again this sounds a lot like what you wanted to do, but none of the progression is there. If you were town and had these thoughts then why didn't you try to bait Cory? -_-

No I didn't agree with Leelou's reasoning. She voted for no reason and I questioned why? She gave the reason. My point about her reason, was if SHE thought he was setting people up, why not wait to actually see him do it, then you have some kind evidence. She thought he could be doing it. By voting him and saying why, she lost her reason. If I had thought that (which I didn't and never said I did) then why not wait before placing vote.

I just did what I did to get a reaction out of Cory to see if he would react townie or scummy. Game was starting to spiral into a spamfest. For me, he's now in my town pile.

For you, sorry about the cat. <3 Also, I'm getting a slight townie vibe from your posts and responses.

Verb could be scum. I need to see what he does when he gets back. And no, we didn't interact much. I responded "Yes" to him and then I asked him about Cory. I posted my unvote before Verbal even answered though.

You didn't say that at the time, but I can see that as better reason for the vote. I'm going to read over that again. People have brought up points about Verb that I didn't see and want to see if they have anything in them or not.

I said it after. Saying at the time would have killed my loltrolling for a true reaction from Cory.

Talya · August 31, 2015

Rereading the posts on sili/Sooh at the beginning of the game:

Spoilered it so doesn't clutter

[spolier]

Hello and checking in!

[v]Talya[/v]

I'm sure it's just residual...

Lenlo didn't respond so I am bored of lenlo, therefore [unvote]

oh hey its started.

a couple days ago i think i wanted to vote john snow, for completely arbitrary reasons, so I'll do that.

[v]John Snow[/v]

Hard claiming Gladiator. So come at me bro.

Oh, you have a sense of humor. This is quite the development.

Good morning! I have a birthday party later today so I will probably not be here much until tomorrow.

[v] Sili [/v]

I am hurt Tina. Really. There's a visible wound now.

Hello and checking in!

[v]Talya[/v]

I'm sure it's just residual...

so sinister!

[unvote]

[v]Sooh[/v]

Sinister, dark and brooding. Such is my personality. Get used to it, Sili.

Sinister, dark and brooding. Such is my personality. Get used to it, Sili.

Privilege denied.

Seriously though, what do you mean by that line?

Fortunately I don't have to ask you

Seriously though, what do you mean by that line?

Do I have to mean something about everything I say?

Seriously though, what do you mean by that line?

Do I have to mean something about everything I say?

Uh, something nondescript and weird like that, yes i think you put some sort of thought into it. I want to know if it was a villagery thought or a scummy thought.

Please answer quick :)

You said sinister, I decided to make it worse. Was it villagery or scummy? Neither. It was fluff.

You said sinister, I decided to make it worse. Was it villagery or scummy? Neither. It was fluff.

Was it about that game where TAlya was a wolf and you lost to her team?

Was it about that game where TAlya was a wolf and you lost to her team?

My vote on her? Yes.

What else could it be at this point?

You see I didn't recall Talya was a wolf when I voted you. Jeez. [unvote] -_-

Looking back I think staged is the wrong word, but something seemed off to me in this, sili questions Sooh on her vote of me, but Sooh skips round the question, then sili answers it for her. I'm not sure who seems off, Sooh for skirting around his question (but I knew what her vote meant, so not sure why she would be worried about it), or Sili, because he gives her the answer of what her vote is about. Sili said later that he answered because she took her time to respond. But the time span isn't that much at all.

I mentioned it in answer to Cory's post, because he said about wolves maybe having time to set things up. I had already this (above) in the back of my mind and so I wondered if it could be staged. I put it there mainly for me but also to see if anyone else thought it or didn't. The only two to say anything were Sooh and Sili. Sooh first questioned it, which I was expecting. Sili didn't for a while, then he did, then nothing and now he has come back trying to make it out to be something that it wasn't.

A point to note, I don't bait people to vote someone, (no matter my alignment), I will vote for who I want. If I had wanted to vote for either of them I would have at the time.

Since then, out of the two Sooh feels better, Sili, I'm not sure on, I had him down as wolf on D1 in ME game, (first time I had ever played with him), seems like he is playing similar here, but I think he is capable of playing to his town, esp day 1, and that puts a lot of doubt in my mind. As I know I'm town, this makes me think he is a wolf looking to push a town lynch.

Also on rereading JS looks to be quite towny, similar to his BM game in the BT, he did try to get things started there too, in the tUS game he was a lot more reserved on D1

Back to rereading

Talya · August 31, 2015

why didn't the spoiler tags work...sorry!

Leelou · August 31, 2015

<snip>

Note though, we did interact before that. Also, you guys need to stop holding the amount we interact as a read. Some days other things are going on and we don't interact that much on thread.
I agree. I can't even imagine how annoying it is to always be read based on the actions of another. I've never been a fan of when people do that.
<snip>

It's annoying. Let's say one of us is busy and just posts but we don't interact. Then OMG we must both be scum. I'll actually save my rant for after the game.

FWIW I don't do this to you guys. I go by what you say, not how you two interact with each other.

I'm getting to the point that I'm going to make it an auto scum read on the person doing it going forward by trying to get one of us lynched.

Talya · August 31, 2015

@ Leelou, it's not bugging me, but I think your reason for voting is nullified, so it makes it interesting

But does that make my vote null?

I believe your vote is still being counted. But your reason for it, was what you thought Cory would do with it. Surely it would have been better to wait and see what he did with it. sometimes better to let it run to prove something. It looks worse for you for not letting that happen.

Again this sounds a lot like what you wanted to do, but none of the progression is there. If you were town and had these thoughts then why didn't you try to bait Cory? -_-

No I didn't agree with Leelou's reasoning. She voted for no reason and I questioned why? She gave the reason. My point about her reason, was if SHE thought he was setting people up, why not wait to actually see him do it, then you have some kind evidence. She thought he could be doing it. By voting him and saying why, she lost her reason. If I had thought that (which I didn't and never said I did) then why not wait before placing vote.

I just did what I did to get a reaction out of Cory to see if he would react townie or scummy. Game was starting to spiral into a spamfest. For me, he's now in my town pile.

For you, sorry about the cat. <3 Also, I'm getting a slight townie vibe from your posts and responses.

Verb could be scum. I need to see what he does when he gets back. And no, we didn't interact much. I responded "Yes" to him and then I asked him about Cory. I posted my unvote before Verbal even answered though.

You didn't say that at the time, but I can see that as better reason for the vote. I'm going to read over that again. People have brought up points about Verb that I didn't see and want to see if they have anything in them or not.

I said it after. Saying at the time would have killed my loltrolling for a true reaction from Cory.

Good point.

Taborline · August 31, 2015

@ Leelou, it's not bugging me, but I think your reason for voting is nullified, so it makes it interesting

But does that make my vote null?

I believe your vote is still being counted. But your reason for it, was what you thought Cory would do with it. Surely it would have been better to wait and see what he did with it. sometimes better to let it run to prove something. It looks worse for you for not letting that happen.

Again this sounds a lot like what you wanted to do, but none of the progression is there. If you were town and had these thoughts then why didn't you try to bait Cory? -_-

No I didn't agree with Leelou's reasoning. She voted for no reason and I questioned why? She gave the reason. My point about her reason, was if SHE thought he was setting people up, why not wait to actually see him do it, then you have some kind evidence. She thought he could be doing it. By voting him and saying why, she lost her reason. If I had thought that (which I didn't and never said I did) then why not wait before placing vote.

I just did what I did to get a reaction out of Cory to see if he would react townie or scummy. Game was starting to spiral into a spamfest. For me, he's now in my town pile.

For you, sorry about the cat. <3 Also, I'm getting a slight townie vibe from your posts and responses.

Verb could be scum. I need to see what he does when he gets back. And no, we didn't interact much. I responded "Yes" to him and then I asked him about Cory. I posted my unvote before Verbal even answered though.

You didn't say that at the time, but I can see that as better reason for the vote. I'm going to read over that again. People have brought up points about Verb that I didn't see and want to see if they have anything in them or not.

I said it after. Saying at the time would have killed my loltrolling for a true reaction from Cory.

Bold: Tal, would that argument not also stand for Sooh and Sili's interaction, and your thinking it was staged? Would it not be better to wait a bit, and bring that up once they've done something more? Of all the posts Sili pulled up, the staging comment and this backtracking stand out most to me (backtracking as in "What's your reason, Lee?" and then when she gives you one, you say she shouldn't have given you that one?)

Eldrick4221 · August 31, 2015

Yay for spoiler fail.

When I first read the Sili/Sooh interaction, I didn't think anything of it. I don't know what game is being referenced. I don't know what the residual vote is mentioning.

I didn't have an issue with how Sili handled the situation. It read to me as someone that had figured out the meaning to what was said.

I could, of course, be wrong here, but I don't think it was staged.

Taborline · August 31, 2015

I didn't think anything of it either, more that two people were on at the same time and were chatting back and forth to get the ball rolling.

Eldrick4221 · August 31, 2015

Oh. You spelled spoiler wrong. That's why.

Eldrick4221 · August 31, 2015

Well I'm off to bed now.

I'm looking forward to Wednesday, when I can sit down and reread and take notes. Of course the game started right after my weekend.

Talya · August 31, 2015

It was right at the beginning of the thread and it was just a feeling when I read it through (I have reread it - see above). But I wasn't looking for them to do anything else. Part of the reasoning behind is that Sooh used to find it hard to be natural in thread when wolf, so when I thought something off about their convo, and then Cory said that. that is what came to mind, they had staged it to help sooh look natural). Reading back, I think the word staged is wrong. As I have said above. Still feels 'off' but I can't put my finger on it, and it looks like it is just me.

Looking back, I think cory's post about the time for wolves, made me think of staged, but at the time of reading, it felt 'off', or wrong.

@ Eld - there's a surpise, lol...I blame my fingers.

Talya · August 31, 2015

I didn't think anything of it either, more that two people were on at the same time and were chatting back and forth to get the ball rolling.

Like I said seems like it is just me. I got a response from Sooh that I expected. But Sili seems to have turned into a snowball.

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