Ragnarok Game Thread - Game Over, Town Wins!

[dicetosser1]

 

Incomplete read list:

 

1 Songstress - town 85
2 TinaHel - town 75
3 Leelou - town 78
4 Verbal - haven't read at all
5 Keyboose [keyholder/cory hydra] - indie?
6 Dicetosser - huh
7 Eldrick - heh
8 Taborline (mentored by Yates) - who?
9 Sili - town 99.9999999999
10 Lenlo - town 75
11 Mish - kah
12 Pral - bleh
13 Talya - meh
14 Jon Snow - town 90
15 Ocicat - scum 50
16 Wishleste [wishtree/celeste hydra] - scum 50
17 Sooh - town 80

 

How do you manage the red? Do you not actually read the thread? Like do you just read in ISOs?

[Sili Quirrels]

DIce you are still severely meh in my books.

[Ocicat]

.......I rather dislike the posting system here. Anyway, remnants of the post I tried to put together: Sili, you go from having me and wishleste at equal chances of being scum to giving me a slight edge. As I haven't been around today, why? Wish hasn't posted either, and Celeste made two low-content posts. On that note, there's Mish's read of Celeste appearing "on", which is the opposite of yours, from what I understand, having called her incoherent. Yet you haven't responded to that, from what I see. Is she above your challenging her? 

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

Incomplete read list:

 

1 Songstress - town 85

2 TinaHel - town 75

3 Leelou - town 78

4 Verbal - haven't read at all

5 Keyboose [keyholder/cory hydra] - indie?

6 Dicetosser - huh

7 Eldrick - heh

8 Taborline (mentored by Yates) - who?

9 Sili - town 99.9999999999

10 Lenlo - town 75

11 Mish - kah

12 Pral - bleh

13 Talya - meh

14 Jon Snow - town 90

15 Ocicat - scum 50

16 Wishleste [wishtree/celeste hydra] - scum 50

17 Sooh - town 80

 

How do you manage the red? Do you not actually read the thread? Like do you just read in ISOs?

 

 

Wasn't very interested in verbal when I read the thread.

[Sili Quirrels]

.......I rather dislike the posting system here. Anyway, remnants of the post I tried to put together: Sili, you go from having me and wishleste at equal chances of being scum to giving me a slight edge. As I haven't been around today, why? Wish hasn't posted either, and Celeste made two low-content posts. On that note, there's Mish's read of Celeste appearing "on", which is the opposite of yours, from what I understand, having called her incoherent. Yet you haven't responded to that, from what I see. Is she above your challenging her? 

Reread your response to me, and had time to mull it over. I am a little less convinced your defense of continued defense of celeste should matter.

[dicetosser1]

Ok. first off, I want to address the attention my Loki wincon comment got. That was completely unexpected. OP of the signup had sample PMs for town and mafia, but not for Loki. I was fully expecting Kivam to keep that info quiet, and was therefore rearing to to talk about it when the game started. And then that was taken away from me, so I commented on it.

 

It didn't even occur to me that Loki would be annoyed that his wincon was revealed, but that makes sense. The fact that you used that wording means it occurred to you, which makes me suspicious.

 

 

 

Does Eld usually ask questions like these?

 

Unfortunately, yes. He does it as either alignment. 

 

If he does that as both alignments then I don't get the two votes on him atm. It's like he is just a scummy person in general.

 

 

I am. It's annoying. I'm working on filtering what I say, to become a competent player, but I have a long way to go.

 

Ok, here's your response, Sili. You have a case against me, namely, as I understand, that I have made one relevant but terrible post so far. You can lynch me over it, but I can assure you that would be a mistake. Or you can consider that the post in question was simply a regrettable error. You have this idea that I posted for the sake of activity, but have you entertained the idea that maybe I thought I saw something? Or would you still like to punish me for carelessness? I can't fight that, of course. So why didn't I respond and continue to talk? Perhaps because I recognized that line of thought was in error and saw no value in continuing. But, you say, there are plenty other things I could have commented on by now? Well then. I don't see them. Would you want to lynch me for not seeing the same things you say you do? Or if they're so clear to you, why not enlighten me? I will freely admit I wasn't paying enough attention, if you show me there's what I should have seen. Hm?

 

I found this line very odd. If you're mafia, this whole speech is pointless because you would say it anyway. If you are town, the bolded seems weird, because you don't know who you are. I think it's supposed to read as you would be a mislynch, but that's not how I see it. It feels like a slip.

 

What so you didnt receive your character in your PM Eldrick? That would = knowing who you are. and may allow people to say that lynching them would be a mistake.

[Sili Quirrels]

No idea what you're saying about mish and why i should react to her reads. I don't really care unless they are informative.

[wish-tree]

I haven't posted because, as I said, I will be fairly inactive once school starts. Atm, I am at an internship training retreat, and the only time I can post is at night.

 

I believe I made a vague statement about this in the sign up thread.

 

I'll go read what I missed, but atm I'm not going to be able to be as involved as Celeste.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

Ok. first off, I want to address the attention my Loki wincon comment got. That was completely unexpected. OP of the signup had sample PMs for town and mafia, but not for Loki. I was fully expecting Kivam to keep that info quiet, and was therefore rearing to to talk about it when the game started. And then that was taken away from me, so I commented on it.

 

It didn't even occur to me that Loki would be annoyed that his wincon was revealed, but that makes sense. The fact that you used that wording means it occurred to you, which makes me suspicious.

 

 

 

Does Eld usually ask questions like these?

 

Unfortunately, yes. He does it as either alignment. 

 

If he does that as both alignments then I don't get the two votes on him atm. It's like he is just a scummy person in general.

 

 

I am. It's annoying. I'm working on filtering what I say, to become a competent player, but I have a long way to go.

 

Ok, here's your response, Sili. You have a case against me, namely, as I understand, that I have made one relevant but terrible post so far. You can lynch me over it, but I can assure you that would be a mistake. Or you can consider that the post in question was simply a regrettable error. You have this idea that I posted for the sake of activity, but have you entertained the idea that maybe I thought I saw something? Or would you still like to punish me for carelessness? I can't fight that, of course. So why didn't I respond and continue to talk? Perhaps because I recognized that line of thought was in error and saw no value in continuing. But, you say, there are plenty other things I could have commented on by now? Well then. I don't see them. Would you want to lynch me for not seeing the same things you say you do? Or if they're so clear to you, why not enlighten me? I will freely admit I wasn't paying enough attention, if you show me there's what I should have seen. Hm?

 

I found this line very odd. If you're mafia, this whole speech is pointless because you would say it anyway. If you are town, the bolded seems weird, because you don't know who you are. I think it's supposed to read as you would be a mislynch, but that's not how I see it. It feels like a slip.

 

What so you didnt receive your character in your PM Eldrick? That would = knowing who you are. and may allow people to say that lynching them would be a mistake.

 

 

It's pretty obvious what Eldrick was referring to prs.

[dicetosser1]

 

 

 

uhuh. 

 

 

From what I conjecture already, OCicat is one who lurks and keeps notes and irregularly comments. When he does comment, it's often tangential or queer.

 

Because he is a heteroclitic player, according to you, should I conclude he is not be compelled to respond to pressure? And even though he pushed JS over something really minute, does he not find other topics worthy of being noted? Or, if his vote was made to garner a response, why not follow up on said response and continue to engage the thread?

 

I checked his account. I know he is around.

 

If he is not responding to pressure how is one supposed to read him based on an inexistent reaction?

 

 

For the record I HATE when people do this. It means nothing!  People use it saying "he posted here.."  So?? people post in threads other then mafia some even have responsibilitys to do so. 

 

Other people like me leave the DM window open and go to bed so it will show im online but im not active.

 

Also sometimes a player doesnt post because they have nothing to say! Thats not lurking imo they could be totally upto date  its just not interacting. if they only pop in at OPPORTUNE times for them then THATS lurking.

 

And someone tell me what the Red possibly tells you about alignment? Cause either Town or Scum or 3rd party could do this.

 

 

 

Also because people wanna start posting post counts again Im about to make a point of how that doesnt mean much either

 

 

It matters. You don't want to use it as a premise for a case, but it matters. If you say it doesn't, then you're lying.

 

 

It doesnt matter to me. and Ive said this before. WHY HOW does it matter to you then? What does it infer to you?

 

DIce you are still severely meh in my books.

 

So? The day you town read me D1 is the day I lynch you D1. Neither is likely to happen

 

 

 

 

Incomplete read list:

 

1 Songstress - town 85

2 TinaHel - town 75

3 Leelou - town 78

4 Verbal - haven't read at all

5 Keyboose [keyholder/cory hydra] - indie?

6 Dicetosser - huh

7 Eldrick - heh

8 Taborline (mentored by Yates) - who?

9 Sili - town 99.9999999999

10 Lenlo - town 75

11 Mish - kah

12 Pral - bleh

13 Talya - meh

14 Jon Snow - town 90

15 Ocicat - scum 50

16 Wishleste [wishtree/celeste hydra] - scum 50

17 Sooh - town 80

 

How do you manage the red? Do you not actually read the thread? Like do you just read in ISOs?

 

 

Wasn't very interested in verbal when I read the thread.

 

 

So how do the get reads on other players that Verbs interaction with may have affected? For eg the him leelou cory back and forth?

[Ocicat]

No idea what you're saying about mish and why i should react to her reads. I don't really care unless they are informative.

 

Her read was the opposite of yours, yet you didn't care that she seemed to be seeing something completely different than you?

[dicetosser1]

 

Going against my better judgment (because I have burned by him twice), I am going to say that Len appears to be town here. He's playing right now as if he doesn't mind the attention, which would be highly abnormal for scum!Len.

 

 

 

hmm that went weird

 

 

Key Len has me a bit thrown. Im used to jokey i dont care D1 Len   he jumped into solid play very early for my understandinmg of him BUT I havent disagreed with what he has said

[dicetosser1]

dammit!  that at least had KEyhoder above it before i hit post

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

 

uhuh. 

 

 

From what I conjecture already, OCicat is one who lurks and keeps notes and irregularly comments. When he does comment, it's often tangential or queer.

 

Because he is a heteroclitic player, according to you, should I conclude he is not be compelled to respond to pressure? And even though he pushed JS over something really minute, does he not find other topics worthy of being noted? Or, if his vote was made to garner a response, why not follow up on said response and continue to engage the thread?

 

I checked his account. I know he is around.

 

If he is not responding to pressure how is one supposed to read him based on an inexistent reaction?

 

 

For the record I HATE when people do this. It means nothing!  People use it saying "he posted here.."  So?? people post in threads other then mafia some even have responsibilitys to do so. 

 

Other people like me leave the DM window open and go to bed so it will show im online but im not active.

 

Also sometimes a player doesnt post because they have nothing to say! Thats not lurking imo they could be totally upto date  its just not interacting. if they only pop in at OPPORTUNE times for them then THATS lurking.

 

And someone tell me what the Red possibly tells you about alignment? Cause either Town or Scum or 3rd party could do this.

 

 

 

Also because people wanna start posting post counts again Im about to make a point of how that doesnt mean much either

 

 

It matters. You don't want to use it as a premise for a case, but it matters. If you say it doesn't, then you're lying.

 

 

It doesnt matter to me. and Ive said this before. WHY HOW does it matter to you then? What does it infer to you?

 

DIce you are still severely meh in my books.

 

So? The day you town read me D1 is the day I lynch you D1. Neither is likely to happen

 

 

 

 

Incomplete read list:

 

1 Songstress - town 85

2 TinaHel - town 75

3 Leelou - town 78

4 Verbal - haven't read at all

5 Keyboose [keyholder/cory hydra] - indie?

6 Dicetosser - huh

7 Eldrick - heh

8 Taborline (mentored by Yates) - who?

9 Sili - town 99.9999999999

10 Lenlo - town 75

11 Mish - kah

12 Pral - bleh

13 Talya - meh

14 Jon Snow - town 90

15 Ocicat - scum 50

16 Wishleste [wishtree/celeste hydra] - scum 50

17 Sooh - town 80

 

How do you manage the red? Do you not actually read the thread? Like do you just read in ISOs?

 

 

Wasn't very interested in verbal when I read the thread.

 

 

So how do the get reads on other players that Verbs interaction with may have affected? For eg the him leelou cory back and forth?

 

By reading for tone and their other posts. What does this matter?

[Sili Quirrels]

 

No idea what you're saying about mish and why i should react to her reads. I don't really care unless they are informative.

 

Her read was the opposite of yours, yet you didn't care that she seemed to be seeing something completely different than you?

 

 

Can you quote it for me?

[Sili Quirrels]

[unvote]

[v]dice[/v]

[Sili Quirrels]

cause he's just looking for stuff to comment on. it's all fluff.

[wish-tree]

How experienced are wishtree, celeste, and Ocicat?

I have played a total of 4.5 games (the .5 is the game I replaced out of). I have played one game on here, and 2.5 on my home forum, and one elsewhere.

 

I am not experienced in comparison to anyone here, probably :P

[dicetosser1]

so heres my point

 

i just replied separately to 9 posts i had mqd  (not counting sili interaction)  I now have over 10 posts. Does the number of posts I now have make me more towny/scummy then if i posted one big reply to everything?

 

hint  if u say yes you are wrong

[Sili Quirrels]

so heres my point

 

i just replied separately to 9 posts i had mqd  (not counting sili interaction)  I now have over 10 posts. Does the number of posts I now have make me more towny/scummy then if i posted one big reply to everything?

 

hint  if u say yes you are wrong

regardless you are not impressing me.

[dicetosser1]

the questions about verb stuff is cause im trying to figure you out Sili 

 

 

and because the stuff like he is online and how many posts this person has p's me off

[Ocicat]

 

 

 

Ok, here's your response, Sili. You have a case against me, namely, as I understand, that I have made one relevant but terrible post so far. You can lynch me over it, but I can assure you that would be a mistake. Or you can consider that the post in question was simply a regrettable error. You have this idea that I posted for the sake of activity, but have you entertained the idea that maybe I thought I saw something? Or would you still like to punish me for carelessness? I can't fight that, of course. So why didn't I respond and continue to talk? Perhaps because I recognized that line of thought was in error and saw no value in continuing. But, you say, there are plenty other things I could have commented on by now? Well then. I don't see them. Would you want to lynch me for not seeing the same things you say you do? Or if they're so clear to you, why not enlighten me? I will freely admit I wasn't paying enough attention, if you show me there's what I should have seen. Hm?

 

I found this line very odd. If you're mafia, this whole speech is pointless because you would say it anyway. If you are town, the bolded seems weird, because you don't know who you are. I think it's supposed to read as you would be a mislynch, but that's not how I see it. It feels like a slip. 

 

If you are town, the bolded seems weird, because why shouldn't I know my alignment? Or are you indeed saying a mislynch only matters if it's on a PR?

[Cory Caboose]

 

 

Note to self: become more abrasive and vindictive as a wolf to get townread.

 

Oh my god I'm becoming Nyn

 

 

Good to see you are improving yourself Cory! You GO girl!

 

 

lol'd

[wish-tree]

 

 

How experienced are wishtree, celeste, and Ocicat?

I want to make the following bets.

 

Wishtree: 10-30 games

Celeste: 10 games

Ocicat: 10 games

Hahaha. Ocicat is probably at least as experienced as Celeste.

[Sili Quirrels]

the questions about verb stuff is cause im trying to figure you out Sili 

 

 

and because the stuff like he is online and how many posts this person has p's me off

 

how is skipping over verb's posts informative?

 

you are wrong, but the more you focus on that stuff the more I think you're scum.