A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

[Sili Quirrels]

the speed with which you people keep posting, i'll never get caught up in this game

This is Thane's last post.

 

No matter what happens you lynch him tomorrow. No matter how scummy someone is, they are not scummier than Thane.

 

Remember.

[Sili Quirrels]

So, my input of recent events.

 

The day obviously ended early. It is unknown if this was done by mafia or not, but it is more likely that it was. It is also likely that the people on Yates 1.0's train were all town, if the phase jump was done by mafia.

 

I don't know why multiball has been brought up so much. Yes, it's a possibility, but it could also just as easily not be in this game. It really only matters if you are scum. All town has to do is find the scum. Speculating on whether they are on the same side of each other is pointless and anti-town.

 

Now then, Pizza, you haven't answered my question. You asked me if I wanted an answer, or if I just wanted a conclusion. I want an answer. Why would you not vote your most likely scum suspect, while still pressuring other people? Do you actually think Zander is scum, or are you just posturing?

 

I ran out of time last night, but I will give this reread another go tonight. If you have any questions for me, I will get to them when I'm done.

-_- you are so different from last time.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

**snip**

-snip-

 

Yes, smart plan! I would check IN THREAD to see if you had the majority of votes before phase changing, instead of just doing the whole phase changing thing earlier when a lot more people were voting for you. This is ALL LOGICAL.... except it isn't.

If I was a wolf with a phase changer I would probably have A been paying much more attention to the votes and B asked my team in the QT or even the mods in the QT for confirmation. What I saw was a vote count that had Sili in two places and I wanted to draw the mods' attention to that. 

 

Like I said when asked about my unvote, I saw no reason to lynch a claimed PR. 

 

 

You say if you had a phase changer, you would be paying attention to the votes, and then point out that you were paying attention to them.

 

**snip**

Yes, I would have been paying attention as in SUBMITTING THE LYNCH BEFORE he was just ONE PERSON up!

 

Except that it fits with your discussion of catching it on Yates before it moves to Seph. I agree with the fact that the timing saved Seph. The question is why.

 

I'm also not saying it was you that stopped the phase. It could have been. It could not have been.  I am simply pointing out your inconsistency.

[Eldrick4221]

 

So, my input of recent events.

 

The day obviously ended early. It is unknown if this was done by mafia or not, but it is more likely that it was. It is also likely that the people on Yates 1.0's train were all town, if the phase jump was done by mafia.

 

I don't know why multiball has been brought up so much. Yes, it's a possibility, but it could also just as easily not be in this game. It really only matters if you are scum. All town has to do is find the scum. Speculating on whether they are on the same side of each other is pointless and anti-town.

 

Now then, Pizza, you haven't answered my question. You asked me if I wanted an answer, or if I just wanted a conclusion. I want an answer. Why would you not vote your most likely scum suspect, while still pressuring other people? Do you actually think Zander is scum, or are you just posturing?

 

I ran out of time last night, but I will give this reread another go tonight. If you have any questions for me, I will get to them when I'm done.

-_- you are so different from last time.

 

Is this supposed to be sarcasm? The face confuses me. I am different than last time. I'm town. I'm trying to figure the game out.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

It may just be me today, but my eyes are actually blurring trying to make sense of you all and it isn't working.  I'm going to have to wait for alot of people to die and stop cluttering the thread and I'll go from there.

Parphrase: I won't help anyone until this game is smaller?

 

Also hi again!

 

Hi again.

 

More like I don't have the mental effort to spare right now to try and get through hundreds of posts full of gross quotes and actually comprehend what I'm reading, let alone scumhunt through it.

 

Please note that weird chain quotes are not an excuse if you sign up for a game. You try to make reads anyway and push for the right lynch. Alot, you have done nothing but complain about not being able to read. You are a wolf and after Thane I will lynch you. My justification: you didn't check in yesterday after doing less than the barebones of playing.

[Eldrick4221]

Lol, I leave Heart's game, and she comes to join this one.

 

*waves at Heart*

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

So, my input of recent events.

 

The day obviously ended early. It is unknown if this was done by mafia or not, but it is more likely that it was. It is also likely that the people on Yates 1.0's train were all town, if the phase jump was done by mafia.

 

I don't know why multiball has been brought up so much. Yes, it's a possibility, but it could also just as easily not be in this game. It really only matters if you are scum. All town has to do is find the scum. Speculating on whether they are on the same side of each other is pointless and anti-town.

 

Now then, Pizza, you haven't answered my question. You asked me if I wanted an answer, or if I just wanted a conclusion. I want an answer. Why would you not vote your most likely scum suspect, while still pressuring other people? Do you actually think Zander is scum, or are you just posturing?

 

I ran out of time last night, but I will give this reread another go tonight. If you have any questions for me, I will get to them when I'm done.

-_- you are so different from last time.

 

Is this supposed to be sarcasm? The face confuses me. I am different than last time. I'm town. I'm trying to figure the game out.

 

 

IIt's my 'this isn't even funny' face.

[Sooh]

 

the speed with which you people keep posting, i'll never get caught up in this game

This is Thane's last post.

 

No matter what happens you lynch him tomorrow. No matter how scummy someone is, they are not scummier than Thane.

 

Remember.

 

I like this post.

 

 

 

 

**snip**

-snip-

 

Yes, smart plan! I would check IN THREAD to see if you had the majority of votes before phase changing, instead of just doing the whole phase changing thing earlier when a lot more people were voting for you. This is ALL LOGICAL.... except it isn't.

If I was a wolf with a phase changer I would probably have A been paying much more attention to the votes and B asked my team in the QT or even the mods in the QT for confirmation. What I saw was a vote count that had Sili in two places and I wanted to draw the mods' attention to that. 

 

Like I said when asked about my unvote, I saw no reason to lynch a claimed PR. 

 

 

You say if you had a phase changer, you would be paying attention to the votes, and then point out that you were paying attention to them.

 

**snip**

Yes, I would have been paying attention as in SUBMITTING THE LYNCH BEFORE he was just ONE PERSON up!

 

Except that it fits with your discussion of catching it on Yates before it moves to Seph. I agree with the fact that the timing saved Seph. The question is why.

 

I'm also not saying it was you that stopped the phase. It could have been. It could not have been.  I am simply pointing out your inconsistency.

 

Ok? You throw suspicion at me, but also backtrack on that that was just for me. Noted.

[Eldrick4221]

Btw this game IS multiball and there could be indy's.

Oh. It wasn't speculation. It was confirmed by mod. I missed this the first time.

 

My reasoning for not talking about it still stands, though. Only mafia care who the other non-town parties are.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

the speed with which you people keep posting, i'll never get caught up in this game

This is Thane's last post.

 

No matter what happens you lynch him tomorrow. No matter how scummy someone is, they are not scummier than Thane.

 

Remember.

 

I like this post.

 

 

 

 

**snip**

-snip-

 

Yes, smart plan! I would check IN THREAD to see if you had the majority of votes before phase changing, instead of just doing the whole phase changing thing earlier when a lot more people were voting for you. This is ALL LOGICAL.... except it isn't.

If I was a wolf with a phase changer I would probably have A been paying much more attention to the votes and B asked my team in the QT or even the mods in the QT for confirmation. What I saw was a vote count that had Sili in two places and I wanted to draw the mods' attention to that. 

 

Like I said when asked about my unvote, I saw no reason to lynch a claimed PR. 

 

 

You say if you had a phase changer, you would be paying attention to the votes, and then point out that you were paying attention to them.

 

**snip**

Yes, I would have been paying attention as in SUBMITTING THE LYNCH BEFORE he was just ONE PERSON up!

 

Except that it fits with your discussion of catching it on Yates before it moves to Seph. I agree with the fact that the timing saved Seph. The question is why.

 

I'm also not saying it was you that stopped the phase. It could have been. It could not have been.  I am simply pointing out your inconsistency.

 

Ok? You throw suspicion at me, but also backtrack on that that was just for me. Noted.

 

I'm not throwing suspicion...yet. And it wasn't just for you. I pointed it out so others could notice it too.

 

I don't have a read on you yet, and that alone doesn't make you scummy. I was caught up with Pizza and EP during my first read, and I'm going back to see what else happened.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

So, my input of recent events.

 

The day obviously ended early. It is unknown if this was done by mafia or not, but it is more likely that it was. It is also likely that the people on Yates 1.0's train were all town, if the phase jump was done by mafia.

 

I don't know why multiball has been brought up so much. Yes, it's a possibility, but it could also just as easily not be in this game. It really only matters if you are scum. All town has to do is find the scum. Speculating on whether they are on the same side of each other is pointless and anti-town.

 

Now then, Pizza, you haven't answered my question. You asked me if I wanted an answer, or if I just wanted a conclusion. I want an answer. Why would you not vote your most likely scum suspect, while still pressuring other people? Do you actually think Zander is scum, or are you just posturing?

 

I ran out of time last night, but I will give this reread another go tonight. If you have any questions for me, I will get to them when I'm done.

-_- you are so different from last time.

 

Is this supposed to be sarcasm? The face confuses me. I am different than last time. I'm town. I'm trying to figure the game out.

 

 

IIt's my 'this isn't even funny' face.

 

So, it's not a good difference?

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

 

So, my input of recent events.

 

The day obviously ended early. It is unknown if this was done by mafia or not, but it is more likely that it was. It is also likely that the people on Yates 1.0's train were all town, if the phase jump was done by mafia.

 

I don't know why multiball has been brought up so much. Yes, it's a possibility, but it could also just as easily not be in this game. It really only matters if you are scum. All town has to do is find the scum. Speculating on whether they are on the same side of each other is pointless and anti-town.

 

Now then, Pizza, you haven't answered my question. You asked me if I wanted an answer, or if I just wanted a conclusion. I want an answer. Why would you not vote your most likely scum suspect, while still pressuring other people? Do you actually think Zander is scum, or are you just posturing?

 

I ran out of time last night, but I will give this reread another go tonight. If you have any questions for me, I will get to them when I'm done.

-_- you are so different from last time.

 

Is this supposed to be sarcasm? The face confuses me. I am different than last time. I'm town. I'm trying to figure the game out.

 

 

IIt's my 'this isn't even funny' face.

 

So, it's not a good difference?

 

It's a, are you a serial killer? Because you're 99% not a wolf.

[Eldrick4221]

-snip-

 

It's a, are you a serial killer? Because you're 99% not a wolf.

 

 

Where are you getting serial killer? I am 100% not wolf. I am town.

[Talya]

A quick catch up. Shame we have lost a good role.

 

I need to check when sili's vote was in relation to the end of day. Would the wolfies have time to end it after he had voted?

What would have happened if it was a tie on the votes?

Was the end to stop any trains on Seth or Hallia starting? Or was it to ensure that Yates was a goner? If that is the case Sili doesn't look too good for putting the last vote on. But would wolfies be that obvious? I'm thinking not at the moment.

My first thought when Yayes came back as 2.0 his style of posting had changed, not sure if this was him being angry or over stating it if him came back as a wolfie.

I need to check up on Sooh when back home.

 

Best get off here before I get caught...

[Eldrick4221]

A quick catch up. Shame we have lost a good role.

 

This is an incredibly townie thing to say. I have noticed it's common practice to scum to say things like this to look townie. I have done it myself.

I need to check when sili's vote was in relation to the end of day. Would the wolfies have time to end it after he had voted?

What would have happened if it was a tie on the votes?

 

In hybrid hammer games, if there is a tie for the leading train, it is randomly decided between the choices. (Typically)

Was the end to stop any trains on Seth or Hallia starting? Or was it to ensure that Yates was a goner? If that is the case Sili doesn't look too good for putting the last vote on. But would wolfies be that obvious? I'm thinking not at the moment.

My first thought when Yayes came back as 2.0 his style of posting had changed, not sure if this was him being angry or over stating it if him came back as a wolfie.

 

I don't think his change is alignment indicative. It does come off as anger, and could easily just be that. The cop was lynched. He is either town, and legitimately pissed about this; or he isn't town, and is faking it.

I need to check up on Sooh when back home.

 

Best get off here before I get caught...

 

And yes, the actions at the end of the day do need to be looked into.

[Alot]

I'm just reading backwards in time now, since you added about 25 pages from when I was last reading, so I'm going to have alot of gaps in my knowledge.

 

Eldrick assumes everyone on the wagon was town because of the phase change?  How does that follow?

 

Sili: I wanted to mentor this game, and was convinced to play instead.  You guys are at around 1.5k posts for a shortened d1 and a bit of n2, which I do find a bit ridiculous, and it has been a very busy work week for me, more so than expected.  I have been trying to keep up, but I never even got to get on my laptop yesterday until around 11, and this game was not my top priority before going to bed to get up for work 6 hours later.

 

I agree with Yates2.0 that Sooh is rather suspicious for confirming the votes after unvoting and then minutes later ending the round.  If nothing else, it narrows down the pool to those who were actively reading the thread atm.

 

Likelihood wolf!Seph was saved < Likelihood Mafia got a clear shot on claimed PR Yates 1.0, especially given multiball.  I don't think we can use this to indict Seph.

 

Hallia, I didn't recognize you with your new 'do, sorry.  I remember liking your intro posts.  Null vibe from what I've read recently.

 

I remember Eternal Phoenix giving me a scum ping in the first 15 pages, but I don't remember why :(

[Alot]

"Eldrick assumes everyone on the wagon was town because of the phase change? How does that follow?"

To clarify on this, given there are multiple mafia parties, how does one party ending the phase early mean there are no mafia from that or the unknowing other mafia party on the lynchee?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I agree with pizza here. Town Pizza is the best pizza.

Pizza from that post I am guessing that you think there is scum on yates vote.

Do you think any of the unvotes were scum?

 

Do you still feel the same about eldrick. I haven't seen him in awhile.

 

What is your opinion of sooh? I think there is no way she makes a post like this before day ended there.

Wifom

 

OK I am going to bed I have work early.

Ill try to post when I can but will be tomorrow night before I am on.

I'm going to have to dig and see who exactly was on Yates, if someone can grab that real quick for me I'll take a look, but I don't think it's especially the case.

 

From what I remember, the tally was low and spread out and not a lot of votes. I thought day ended early but then I thought it was my imagination.

 

Then I see a lot of people saying day ended early- so that does imply someone ended day early with a power.

 

I think the odds are pretty good it was someone who voted for Yates.

 

However, it doesn't have to be the case. It just needs to be someone who was around when Yates suddenly became the clear vote leader.

 

I have never played with Sooh before or read any of her games in depth- and if she's being mentored then there may be a lot of posts she makes this game which are posts she "never makes".

 

DUCY

 

Edlrick looks solidly like scum to me. At no point did I even consider unvoting him.

 

 

 

What are you even talking about?

Someone posted about you unvoting and asking the vote count before the day ended.

 

You're suggesting maybe Sooh is responsible for ending Day early?

 

Possible. An intriguing thought. But really bad move to unvote and pretend to not know what the tally was and then fire off that particular weapon.

 

It would likely make Sooh and Yates a 1 for 1 trade. I don't know how long scums can afford to do that, but with a bulletproof....

 

And by the way, I never would have gotten Bulletproof Vest from BPV.

 

I don't think you're a scum because you're not posting, but I think it's villagery of you to think I think you're scum for not posting.

 

Shows you feel guilty.

 

And you should feel guilty because you're letting me down.

It is not by choice. My real life is extremely pressing right now, and it is visually difficult to follow the conversation with long multiquote chains.

 

You guys are used to it, I'm not, this is severely impacting my ability to play this game.

 

PLEASE TRIM YOUR MULTIQUOTES EVERYONE

 

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

 

I am brand spanking new to this website and I figured it out.

 

Please don't be lazy. I am trimming multiquotes (and am America) and so can you!

[Alot]

I think I always get this impression of Sili, but I feel like he is just plain wrong alot.  Like just agreeing with Yates 2.0 that because all of his reads are supposedly the exact same as Yates 1.0 right when he subs back in, Yates 2.0 is probably town.

We have claimed masons?  Who are the claimed masons?

[Alot]

Or maybe this goes past being wrong and into scum territory?  Sili actually ignored Yates1.0 Claiming BP, saying he had an awesome role like Faramir, voted him anyway, then said Yates1.0 basically played against his team for not claiming louder?

[Eldrick4221]

Even on day one I believe in having a reason. I think you can avoid a lot of bad votes that way.

 

 

 

I agree with this, which is why I didn't keep my vote on you for not voting me. Also why I didn't vote anyone until you gave me reason to.

[Talya]

"Eldrick assumes everyone on the wagon was town because of the phase change? How does that follow?"

To clarify on this, given there are multiple mafia parties, how does one party ending the phase early mean there are no mafia from that or the unknowing other mafia party on the lynchee?

[Talya]

Tried to quote on my phone and it goes wrong!

 

I can kinda see why he might think that... Wolfies all jump off and then go for the kill. But if there are two teams asentioned this wouldn't be true and things were changing so a good chance that they would want the phase to end asap no matter who was on it

[Alot]

 

 

 

Waste as much time as you want.

I just explained why I called you scum, so are you going to respond to it or are you going to throw a hissy fit that I'm not spending an hour on my phone gathering the mq to thoroughly bury you.

I'm saying it's a waste of time for you to case me, because I am town.

 

I'm bad at day 1, especially in large games, and I dislike people thinking they know better than I do how i play as town. It will take me some time to find my groove and start making sense of this game. Deal with it.

 

So if you want to try to bury me, you're wasting your time, or you're mafia. There is no other option. What pisses me off the most is that you'll try to blame my mislynch on me.

 

I don't do that. When I mislynch someone it's my fault.

 

Lol

[Eldrick4221]

I'm just reading backwards in time now, since you added about 25 pages from when I was last reading, so I'm going to have alot of gaps in my knowledge.

 

Eldrick assumes everyone on the wagon was town because of the phase change?  How does that follow?

 

Sili: I wanted to mentor this game, and was convinced to play instead.  You guys are at around 1.5k posts for a shortened d1 and a bit of n2, which I do find a bit ridiculous, and it has been a very busy work week for me, more so than expected.  I have been trying to keep up, but I never even got to get on my laptop yesterday until around 11, and this game was not my top priority before going to bed to get up for work 6 hours later.

 

I agree with Yates2.0 that Sooh is rather suspicious for confirming the votes after unvoting and then minutes later ending the round.  If nothing else, it narrows down the pool to those who were actively reading the thread atm.

 

Likelihood wolf!Seph was saved < Likelihood Mafia got a clear shot on claimed PR Yates 1.0, especially given multiball.  I don't think we can use this to indict Seph.

 

Hallia, I didn't recognize you with your new 'do, sorry.  I remember liking your intro posts.  Null vibe from what I've read recently.

 

I remember Eternal Phoenix giving me a scum ping in the first 15 pages, but I don't remember why :(

I don't assume they are all town. I said it's *likely* they are. If mafia was in control of the phase change (which IS what I assume), then it is likely they would use it when they aren't on the 'winning' train.