A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

[Sooh]

 

 

However, it was Seph who was in danger along with Yates if Silli hadn't been voting Yates. Keep that in mind when you're sifting through all of this. (to everyone)

Yes, Seph was in danger, and Hallia was getting heat in the thread for her quick vote on Yates. 

 

I still think Seph might be scum.

Why do you think I am scum?

 

I've mentioned my reasons before. If you look at my posts you'll find them. 

 

I'm also off to work and will be in lurker mode from there today. 

[Gabriel Kross]

 

Sooh,

 

what's your opinion of me?

 

I want an alignment, a role, and a reason from you.

 

And I want a very specific reason, and I'm telling you that in advance, because this isn't me asking you to town read me. This is me asking you to prove to me cory is town.

You want my opinion on you? And you want me to tell you your alignment AND role?

 

I have stated before that I believe you're town. You seem to be in town mode and trying to solve this game, and so far it's looking really good. I have no weird vibes about you.I have no clue what sort of role you would have, but you're putting yourself out there, so that makes me think you're a plain vanilla, but that's nothing but a guess on my part. 

 

Also what's this about proving that Cory is town? Cory isn't playing. He is mentoring me. He offers me his opinions and I try to see if I agree on them or not. We came off to a rocky start because some things were uncleared with the mods, but that's it. 

 

 

Oh mod with the mostest... is Sili voting or not?

So you unvoted Yates.

Then you checked to make sure the Yates wagon had three votes with Sili.

Mod confirmed Sili is voting Yates at 5:40.

And Day end was at 5:43.

.

.

.

Coincidence?

 

Yes, smart plan! I would check IN THREAD to see if you had the majority of votes before phase changing, instead of just doing the whole phase changing thing earlier when a lot more people were voting for you. This is ALL LOGICAL.... except it isn't.

If I was a wolf with a phase changer I would probably have A been paying much more attention to the votes and B asked my team in the QT or even the mods in the QT for confirmation. What I saw was a vote count that had Sili in two places and I wanted to draw the mods' attention to that. 

 

Like I said when asked about my unvote, I saw no reason to lynch a claimed PR. 

 

then by this logic Townie Sooh could have also done it in PM, don't you have a QT with your mentor anyways?

 

 

 

 

because it was clear that the votes were needed to get Yates killed. All day ending abilities like that normally require a majority to still be on the target you want to die at the moment you're ending the phase.

Obviously. I'm not stupid, no matter what you may think, EP. The point is that A. It was odd for Sooh to check the vote count to make sure Yates still had majority votes, and B. For her to unvote in the first place. Then day ended early.

If she had just unvoted, it would be less odd, but verifying the votes?

oh wait I missread your question I was thinking you were asking why she didn't? I thought Sooh was still voting Yates.

 

However, it was Seph who was in danger along with Yates if Silli hadn't been voting Yates. Keep that in mind when you're sifting through all of this. (to everyone)

How is 2 and 3 votes in danger when 3/4 of the game was not voting.

Ep weren't you one of the first to follow aj and help run up the train, then unvote once it got going?

 

based on the fact that we know day ended early if Sili had not been voting it would have likely been a random between you and Yates for who died. It was clear mafia didn't want that which is why it ended when it did.

[Sili Quirrels]

i'm off.

 

glgl

 

sooh town

seph maybe town

 

yates ~lynch bait~ (he's probably town though)

aj town

leelou town

ep ~might fos later~

 

scum

tress

pizza

thane ~easy wolf lynch or vig shot~

a couple other people

[seph]

Hey guys! I've been trying to catch up while you've all been running away from me  

 

This is definitely a bigger game than I'm used to. I lean towards believing Yates for now though, so [unvote]

 

I did expect Seph to be much more involved in this game, so he's my biggest lead at the moment for where to find scum.

 

[v]seph[/v]

Is this actually a reason? I find this almost as bad as leelou vote on me, who voted because she was tired of reading my posts and said she just decided to follow yates. Seems like you are trying to find a easy spot to park a vote.

 

As for my activity lvl I planned to be more active when I signed up, I have two games going which would not even be a problem except I started my new job, and this was my only day off with my fiancee.

I am keeping up and posting when I can, which appears to be more than you.

 

Tbh this large game is intimidating, and I feel like I am doing alright, having kaylee being able to help me tomorrow for the first time will help tremendously as I am lost when anyone talks about roles. Its pretty discouraging when most of the active thread calls your posts annoyin, but I don't feel as though I needed to have to explain this.

You haven't had any interaction with me this entire game, and you are being a hypocrite.

[seph]

@ep

Do you honestly think yates was in danger of being lyched yesterday?

I feel after his claim, Which was a pretty serious claim Everyone should have unvoted.

 

What I don't understand is how no one besides yates and sili are upset about the role that was just lost. I have no clue about possible town roles, but that is a huge loss even if yates 2 is town.

[Gabriel Kross]

@ep

Do you honestly think yates was in danger of being lyched yesterday?

I feel after his claim, Which was a pretty serious claim Everyone should have unvoted.

 

What I don't understand is how no one besides yates and sili are upset about the role that was just lost. I have no clue about possible town roles, but that is a huge loss even if yates 2 is town.

it's not a fact that I believe he was in danger. The fact is he was lynched. whether he was in danger of being legitly lynched has nothing to do with it. The fact that you were only one vote behind yates put you in secondary danger based on the turn of events.

[seph]

Ep do you think there was scum on the vote, pulling off it or both?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Lots of posts while I was asleep and at work.

 

Yates, you're probably replacing in for a villager, but at the same time, you have to let your mislynch go, friend.

 

As I said in the champs game, I was lynched as a claimed mason on day one in a not small game. The counterwagon was a wolf.

 

I also had a doctor power that I couldn't use on myself, which I said nothing about.

 

You just have to chalk things up to villagers gonna village sometimes.

 

The relevant question is- what were the scums up to on Day One?

 

Sili- they weren't out-of-character low-posting or pretending to not be able to follow the game, if their name was Askthepizzaguy.

 

I know you want to get me when I'm a scumbag, but I'm not.

 

If I were scum this game would be exceedingly simple to follow and create reads on. I do not hide and I am never timid as a wolf.

 

Not a defense, I can go outside of my meta. But it would be distasteful to me to perform below my meta, rather than above it.

 

I play with honor and for glory. There's no glory in hiding.

[Askthepizzaguy]

This is a brief check in, I have RL things in the AM and another close in the PM.

 

If you pile votes on me Day Two I will claim well before end of round.

 

At this point I am going to suggest sorting by post count, or even sort by vote.

 

If you didn't vote day one and you weren't subbed out, you should get one vote minimum on day two.

 

I need my team with me, and if you won't be with me, I'm not going to bother. I'd prefer active scums win over inactive townies who won't be here during critical moments to vote with me.

 

I need to know whatever efforts I put into this game won't be wasted energy.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I will be around for a few hours to respond to questions, but I am doing other things, I have to study for a critical exam to retain my ability to manage, every three years.

 

Servsafe.

 

Ask me things or ask me to comment on something and I will before I fall asleep, hopefully.

 

Can't real time talk atm.

[seph]

I agree with pizza here. Town Pizza is the best pizza.

Pizza from that post I am guessing that you think there is scum on yates vote.

Do you think any of the unvotes were scum?

 

Do you still feel the same about eldrick. I haven't seen him in awhile.

 

What is your opinion of sooh? I think there is no way she makes a post like this before day ended there.

Wifom

 

OK I am going to bed I have work early.

Ill try to post when I can but will be tomorrow night before I am on.

[Sooh]

 

 

Sooh,

 

what's your opinion of me?

 

I want an alignment, a role, and a reason from you.

 

And I want a very specific reason, and I'm telling you that in advance, because this isn't me asking you to town read me. This is me asking you to prove to me cory is town.

You want my opinion on you? And you want me to tell you your alignment AND role?

 

I have stated before that I believe you're town. You seem to be in town mode and trying to solve this game, and so far it's looking really good. I have no weird vibes about you.I have no clue what sort of role you would have, but you're putting yourself out there, so that makes me think you're a plain vanilla, but that's nothing but a guess on my part. 

 

Also what's this about proving that Cory is town? Cory isn't playing. He is mentoring me. He offers me his opinions and I try to see if I agree on them or not. We came off to a rocky start because some things were uncleared with the mods, but that's it. 

 

 

Oh mod with the mostest... is Sili voting or not?

So you unvoted Yates.

Then you checked to make sure the Yates wagon had three votes with Sili.

Mod confirmed Sili is voting Yates at 5:40.

And Day end was at 5:43.

.

.

.

Coincidence?

 

Yes, smart plan! I would check IN THREAD to see if you had the majority of votes before phase changing, instead of just doing the whole phase changing thing earlier when a lot more people were voting for you. This is ALL LOGICAL.... except it isn't.

If I was a wolf with a phase changer I would probably have A been paying much more attention to the votes and B asked my team in the QT or even the mods in the QT for confirmation. What I saw was a vote count that had Sili in two places and I wanted to draw the mods' attention to that. 

 

Like I said when asked about my unvote, I saw no reason to lynch a claimed PR. 

 

then by this logic Townie Sooh could have also done it in PM, don't you have a QT with your mentor anyways?

**snip**

 

I could have done that of course, BUT it didn't seem like a big deal since I have seen people ask about vote counts a bunch of times before. That is the only reason I did it.

[Sooh]

I agree with pizza here. Town Pizza is the best pizza.

Pizza from that post I am guessing that you think there is scum on yates vote.

Do you think any of the unvotes were scum?

 

Do you still feel the same about eldrick. I haven't seen him in awhile.

 

What is your opinion of sooh? I think there is no way she makes a post like this before day ended there.

Wifom

 

OK I am going to bed I have work early.

Ill try to post when I can but will be tomorrow night before I am on.

What are you even talking about?

[seph]

 

I agree with pizza here. Town Pizza is the best pizza.

Pizza from that post I am guessing that you think there is scum on yates vote.

Do you think any of the unvotes were scum?

Do you still feel the same about eldrick. I haven't seen him in awhile.What is your opinion of sooh? I think there is no way she makes a post like this before day ended there.

Wifom

OK I am going to bed I have work early.

Ill try to post when I can but will be tomorrow night before I am on.

 

What are you even talking about?

Someone posted about you unvoting and asking the vote count before the day ended.

[Sili Quirrels]

Lots of posts while I was asleep and at work.

 

Yates, you're probably replacing in for a villager, but at the same time, you have to let your mislynch go, friend.

 

As I said in the champs game, I was lynched as a claimed mason on day one in a not small game. The counterwagon was a wolf.

 

I also had a doctor power that I couldn't use on myself, which I said nothing about.

 

You just have to chalk things up to villagers gonna village sometimes.

 

The relevant question is- what were the scums up to on Day One?

 

Sili- they weren't out-of-character low-posting or pretending to not be able to follow the game, if their name was Askthepizzaguy.

 

I know you want to get me when I'm a scumbag, but I'm not.

 

If I were scum this game would be exceedingly simple to follow and create reads on. I do not hide and I am never timid as a wolf.

 

Not a defense, I can go outside of my meta. But it would be distasteful to me to perform below my meta, rather than above it.

 

I play with honor and for glory. There's no glory in hiding.

I don't think you're a scum because you're not posting, but I think it's villagery of you to think I think you're scum for not posting.

 

Shows you feel guilty.

 

And you should feel guilty because you're letting me down.

[Sooh]

 

 

I agree with pizza here. Town Pizza is the best pizza.

Pizza from that post I am guessing that you think there is scum on yates vote.

Do you think any of the unvotes were scum?

Do you still feel the same about eldrick. I haven't seen him in awhile.What is your opinion of sooh? I think there is no way she makes a post like this before day ended there.

Wifom

OK I am going to bed I have work early.

Ill try to post when I can but will be tomorrow night before I am on.

What are you even talking about?

Someone posted about you unvoting and asking the vote count before the day ended.

 

Yes, Yates did.

If you ask me it seems like Yates' case was more tinfoiling than anything. Another thing to consider is the counter "train" on Seph that was only one vote behind Yates. I was ON Seph as the phase changed, and Verb had vocally expressed his intent for a seph vote and lynch also at the time, so changing phase then for me would be extremely risky as I would not know if the mod would be able to do so before anyone else decided to either jump off Yates since he claimed, or jump on Seph.

 

It's the thinnest of tinfoil cases, and I'm surprised that so many of you are jumping on it.

[Eldrick4221]

And before anyone asks, the answer is yes.

 

I'm not sure what you're referring to, but I thought the answer was 42.

 

 

I know nothing of 2.0 yates

WRONG.

 

You know Yates 2.0 has the EXACT SAME READS as Yates 1.0. Exact. And I'm following through on the wagon carnage from 1.0 - which is what any TOWN person should do. So wake up or get out of my way. Yates 1.0 was cranky Yates. And he was the nice one...

 

 

I would expect nothing less. If your alignment changed, you would keep the same reads to hide the fact. The question is if you are still town or not.

 

 

 

I think i work too much to keep up with the game. I am now 34 pages behind

Long story short you lynched a bulletproof Town cop. Congrats.

Don't like the use of the word "you" here.

 

 

I don't either. You had nothing to do with the lynch.

 

-snip-

 

Yes, smart plan! I would check IN THREAD to see if you had the majority of votes before phase changing, instead of just doing the whole phase changing thing earlier when a lot more people were voting for you. This is ALL LOGICAL.... except it isn't.

If I was a wolf with a phase changer I would probably have A been paying much more attention to the votes and B asked my team in the QT or even the mods in the QT for confirmation. What I saw was a vote count that had Sili in two places and I wanted to draw the mods' attention to that. 

 

Like I said when asked about my unvote, I saw no reason to lynch a claimed PR. 

 

 

You say if you had a phase changer, you would be paying attention to the votes, and then point out that you were paying attention to them.

 

 

 

 

because it was clear that the votes were needed to get Yates killed. All day ending abilities like that normally require a majority to still be on the target you want to die at the moment you're ending the phase.

Obviously. I'm not stupid, no matter what you may think, EP. The point is that A. It was odd for Sooh to check the vote count to make sure Yates still had majority votes, and B. For her to unvote in the first place. Then day ended early.

If she had just unvoted, it would be less odd, but verifying the votes?

oh wait I missread your question I was thinking you were asking why she didn't? I thought Sooh was still voting Yates.

 

However, it was Seph who was in danger along with Yates if Silli hadn't been voting Yates. Keep that in mind when you're sifting through all of this. (to everyone)

How is 2 and 3 votes in danger when 3/4 of the game was not voting.

Ep weren't you one of the first to follow aj and help run up the train, then unvote once it got going?

 

 

2 and 3 votes is danger because the phase ended with the biggest train having 3 votes. Which put the next leading train (yours of 2 votes) at risk. If the day had ended early with both of you at 2 votes, it would be a 50/50 that you die. That was the point being made.

 

I agree with pizza here. Town Pizza is the best pizza.

Pizza from that post I am guessing that you think there is scum on yates vote.

Do you think any of the unvotes were scum?

 

Do you still feel the same about eldrick. I haven't seen him in awhile.

 

What is your opinion of sooh? I think there is no way she makes a post like this before day ended there.

Wifom

 

OK I am going to bed I have work early.

Ill try to post when I can but will be tomorrow night before I am on.

 

I've mentioned it before, but I am only on in the middle of the night, with uncommon exceptions off having the day off/starting work late, combined with not doing something else with the time.

[Eldrick4221]

And before anyone asks, the answer is yes.

 

I'm not sure what you're referring to, but I thought the answer was 42.

 

 

I know nothing of 2.0 yates

WRONG.

 

You know Yates 2.0 has the EXACT SAME READS as Yates 1.0. Exact. And I'm following through on the wagon carnage from 1.0 - which is what any TOWN person should do. So wake up or get out of my way. Yates 1.0 was cranky Yates. And he was the nice one...

 

 

I would expect nothing less. If your alignment changed, you would keep the same reads to hide the fact. The question is if you are still town or not.

 

 

 

I think i work too much to keep up with the game. I am now 34 pages behind

Long story short you lynched a bulletproof Town cop. Congrats.

Don't like the use of the word "you" here.

 

 

I don't either. You had nothing to do with the lynch.

 

-snip-

 

Yes, smart plan! I would check IN THREAD to see if you had the majority of votes before phase changing, instead of just doing the whole phase changing thing earlier when a lot more people were voting for you. This is ALL LOGICAL.... except it isn't.

If I was a wolf with a phase changer I would probably have A been paying much more attention to the votes and B asked my team in the QT or even the mods in the QT for confirmation. What I saw was a vote count that had Sili in two places and I wanted to draw the mods' attention to that. 

 

Like I said when asked about my unvote, I saw no reason to lynch a claimed PR. 

 

 

You say if you had a phase changer, you would be paying attention to the votes, and then point out that you were paying attention to them.

 

 

 

 

because it was clear that the votes were needed to get Yates killed. All day ending abilities like that normally require a majority to still be on the target you want to die at the moment you're ending the phase.

Obviously. I'm not stupid, no matter what you may think, EP. The point is that A. It was odd for Sooh to check the vote count to make sure Yates still had majority votes, and B. For her to unvote in the first place. Then day ended early.

If she had just unvoted, it would be less odd, but verifying the votes?

oh wait I missread your question I was thinking you were asking why she didn't? I thought Sooh was still voting Yates.

 

However, it was Seph who was in danger along with Yates if Silli hadn't been voting Yates. Keep that in mind when you're sifting through all of this. (to everyone)

How is 2 and 3 votes in danger when 3/4 of the game was not voting.

Ep weren't you one of the first to follow aj and help run up the train, then unvote once it got going?

 

 

2 and 3 votes is danger because the phase ended with the biggest train having 3 votes. Which put the next leading train (yours of 2 votes) at risk. If the day had ended early with both of you at 2 votes, it would be a 50/50 that you die. That was the point being made.

 

I agree with pizza here. Town Pizza is the best pizza.

Pizza from that post I am guessing that you think there is scum on yates vote.

Do you think any of the unvotes were scum?

 

Do you still feel the same about eldrick. I haven't seen him in awhile.

 

What is your opinion of sooh? I think there is no way she makes a post like this before day ended there.

Wifom

 

OK I am going to bed I have work early.

Ill try to post when I can but will be tomorrow night before I am on.

 

I've mentioned it before, but I am only on in the middle of the night, with uncommon exceptions off having the day off/starting work late, combined with not doing something else with the time.

[Sooh]

 

 

I agree with pizza here. Town Pizza is the best pizza.

Pizza from that post I am guessing that you think there is scum on yates vote.

Do you think any of the unvotes were scum?

Do you still feel the same about eldrick. I haven't seen him in awhile.What is your opinion of sooh? I think there is no way she makes a post like this before day ended there.

Wifom

OK I am going to bed I have work early.

Ill try to post when I can but will be tomorrow night before I am on.

What are you even talking about?

Someone posted about you unvoting and asking the vote count before the day ended.

 

Yes, Yates did.

If you ask me it seems like Yates' case was more tinfoiling than anything. Another thing to consider is the counter "train" on Seph that was only one vote behind Yates. I was ON Seph as the phase changed, and Verb had vocally expressed his intent for a seph vote and lynch also at the time, so changing phase then for me would be extremely risky as I would not know if the mod would be able to do so before anyone else decided to either jump off Yates since he claimed, or jump on Seph.

 

It's the thinnest of tinfoil cases, and I'm surprised that so many of you are jumping on it.

[Eldrick4221]

Sorry if this is a double post. DM was having trouble sending it through, so I copied it to clipboard, and am retrying now.

 

 

And before anyone asks, the answer is yes.

 

I'm not sure what you're referring to, but I thought the answer was 42.

 

 

I know nothing of 2.0 yates

WRONG.

You know Yates 2.0 has the EXACT SAME READS as Yates 1.0. Exact. And I'm following through on the wagon carnage from 1.0 - which is what any TOWN person should do. So wake up or get out of my way. Yates 1.0 was cranky Yates. And he was the nice one...

 

 

I would expect nothing less. If your alignment changed, you would keep the same reads to hide the fact. The question is if you are still town or not.

 

 

 

I think i work too much to keep up with the game. I am now 34 pages behind

Long story short you lynched a bulletproof Town cop. Congrats.

Don't like the use of the word "you" here.

 

 

I don't either. You had nothing to do with the lynch.

 

-snip-

 

Yes, smart plan! I would check IN THREAD to see if you had the majority of votes before phase changing, instead of just doing the whole phase changing thing earlier when a lot more people were voting for you. This is ALL LOGICAL.... except it isn't.

If I was a wolf with a phase changer I would probably have A been paying much more attention to the votes and B asked my team in the QT or even the mods in the QT for confirmation. What I saw was a vote count that had Sili in two places and I wanted to draw the mods' attention to that. 

 

Like I said when asked about my unvote, I saw no reason to lynch a claimed PR. 

 

 

You say if you had a phase changer, you would be paying attention to the votes, and then point out that you were paying attention to them.

 

 

 

 

because it was clear that the votes were needed to get Yates killed. All day ending abilities like that normally require a majority to still be on the target you want to die at the moment you're ending the phase.

Obviously. I'm not stupid, no matter what you may think, EP. The point is that A. It was odd for Sooh to check the vote count to make sure Yates still had majority votes, and B. For her to unvote in the first place. Then day ended early.
If she had just unvoted, it would be less odd, but verifying the votes?

oh wait I missread your question I was thinking you were asking why she didn't? I thought Sooh was still voting Yates.
 
However, it was Seph who was in danger along with Yates if Silli hadn't been voting Yates. Keep that in mind when you're sifting through all of this. (to everyone)

How is 2 and 3 votes in danger when 3/4 of the game was not voting.
Ep weren't you one of the first to follow aj and help run up the train, then unvote once it got going?

 

 

2 and 3 votes is danger because the phase ended with the biggest train having 3 votes. Which put the next leading train (yours of 2 votes) at risk. If the day had ended early with both of you at 2 votes, it would be a 50/50 that you die. That was the point being made.

 

I agree with pizza here. Town Pizza is the best pizza.
Pizza from that post I am guessing that you think there is scum on yates vote.
Do you think any of the unvotes were scum?

Do you still feel the same about eldrick. I haven't seen him in awhile.

What is your opinion of sooh? I think there is no way she makes a post like this before day ended there.
Wifom

OK I am going to bed I have work early.
Ill try to post when I can but will be tomorrow night before I am on.

 

I've mentioned it before, but I am only on in the middle of the night, with uncommon exceptions off having the day off/starting work late, combined with not doing something else with the time.

[Sooh]

 

 

I agree with pizza here. Town Pizza is the best pizza.

Pizza from that post I am guessing that you think there is scum on yates vote.

Do you think any of the unvotes were scum?

Do you still feel the same about eldrick. I haven't seen him in awhile.What is your opinion of sooh? I think there is no way she makes a post like this before day ended there.

Wifom

OK I am going to bed I have work early.

Ill try to post when I can but will be tomorrow night before I am on.

What are you even talking about?

Someone posted about you unvoting and asking the vote count before the day ended.

 

Yes, Yates did.

If you ask me it seems like Yates' case was more tinfoiling than anything. Another thing to consider is the counter "train" on Seph that was only one vote behind Yates. I was ON Seph as the phase changed, and Verb had vocally expressed his intent for a seph vote and lynch also at the time, so changing phase then for me would be extremely risky as I would not know if the mod would be able to do so before anyone else decided to either jump off Yates since he claimed, or jump on Seph.

 

It's the thinnest of tinfoil cases, and I'm surprised that so many of you are jumping on it.

[Sooh]

 

**snip**

-snip-

 

Yes, smart plan! I would check IN THREAD to see if you had the majority of votes before phase changing, instead of just doing the whole phase changing thing earlier when a lot more people were voting for you. This is ALL LOGICAL.... except it isn't.

If I was a wolf with a phase changer I would probably have A been paying much more attention to the votes and B asked my team in the QT or even the mods in the QT for confirmation. What I saw was a vote count that had Sili in two places and I wanted to draw the mods' attention to that. 

 

Like I said when asked about my unvote, I saw no reason to lynch a claimed PR. 

 

 

You say if you had a phase changer, you would be paying attention to the votes, and then point out that you were paying attention to them.

 

**snip**

Yes, I would have been paying attention as in SUBMITTING THE LYNCH BEFORE he was just ONE PERSON up!

[Sili Quirrels]

This is fine for night chit chat but please don't spend tomorrow talking about why the day ended early. It's pointless speculation until we have a few more flips.

[Sili Quirrels]

Oh, and before I go, I would like to point out an inconsistency in Tress' play. She argues it's a waste of time suspecting her, while telling me I need to explain myself or else no one will be able to read me.

 

Do you see what I mean? it's pretty lol.

[Eldrick4221]

So, my input of recent events.

 

The day obviously ended early. It is unknown if this was done by mafia or not, but it is more likely that it was. It is also likely that the people on Yates 1.0's train were all town, if the phase jump was done by mafia.

 

I don't know why multiball has been brought up so much. Yes, it's a possibility, but it could also just as easily not be in this game. It really only matters if you are scum. All town has to do is find the scum. Speculating on whether they are on the same side of each other is pointless and anti-town.

 

Now then, Pizza, you haven't answered my question. You asked me if I wanted an answer, or if I just wanted a conclusion. I want an answer. Why would you not vote your most likely scum suspect, while still pressuring other people? Do you actually think Zander is scum, or are you just posturing?

 

I ran out of time last night, but I will give this reread another go tonight. If you have any questions for me, I will get to them when I'm done.