[Basic/Standard] A Wind in the Door Mafia - GAME OVER, TOWN WINS

[Niniel]

Since you all asked so nicely, here are some suspicions based on early impressions.  

 

Sili

Sleeper

Tina

HalliYates

 

Earlyness of game and general inexperience are limiting factors. 

 

Any reasons?

[Sleeper Service]

I'm reading with handwritten notes now, clearly the spreadsheet isn't working for me. 

 

Lenlo's "MOARRRRR" demand is villager-y, seriously.That's about the fairest response to me that you could have when a couple other people are saying I'm wolfy and Tom's faking a wolf peek. 

[Sleeper Service]

argh I'm sorry, will start saying town-y and mafia-y or something instead of werewolf terms

[Tommyrod]

I'm reading with handwritten notes now, clearly the spreadsheet isn't working for me. 

 

Lenlo's "MOARRRRR" demand is villager-y, seriously.That's about the fairest response to me that you could have when a couple other people are saying I'm wolfy and Tom's faking a wolf peek. 

 

?

[Sili Quirrels]

Since you all asked so nicely, here are some suspicions based on early impressions.  

 

Sili

Sleeper

Tina

HalliYates

 

Earlyness of game and general inexperience are limiting factors. 

Eh, I don't really care about your reads. I just want to see you put in #effort.

 

 

 

wow rude

 

Survivors are amazeballs

 

And if I tread the line between wolfy and villagery I can make it to endgame no prob

 

And if you're nice to me I'll make the clutch vote at F5 for a village win

 

Be a jerk though and I'll probably use my amazing Dracula powers

I don't see a problem with letting a survivor live for a few days. But it might start being a problem if we fall behind, no offense.

[jmm]

 

Since you all asked so nicely, here are some suspicions based on early impressions.  

 

Sili

Sleeper

Tina

HalliYates

 

Earlyness of game and general inexperience are limiting factors. 

 

Any reasons?

 

 

Mostly very early posts - role is fresh in mind, first post sets tone for at least the early game, and scum try to come across as town as possible.  Anything seeming too town is suspicious to me, but again, I've never played with anyone here, so my reads are completely blind. 

[Sleeper Service]

Usually dingus starts like this.  First post is all posturing, then he warms up and town tells like mad.

 

Which person is dingus? dice? monstr? They both did this.

[Sleeper Service]

 

I'm reading with handwritten notes now, clearly the spreadsheet isn't working for me. 

 

Lenlo's "MOARRRRR" demand is villager-y, seriously.That's about the fairest response to me that you could have when a couple other people are saying I'm wolfy and Tom's faking a wolf peek. 

 

?

 

 

I don't know what a Survivor is, but you allegedly have a wolf peek of me, correct?

[Tommyrod]

There are no N0 actions on DM usually, so you can relax

[Sili Quirrels]

 

Usually dingus starts like this.  First post is all posturing, then he warms up and town tells like mad.

 

Which person is dingus? dice? monstr? They both did this.

 

monstr.

 

Dice is always scummy, and easy to confuse with scum. Same goes for csarmi.

[Sleeper Service]

hoayaids

[michellem]

Yo Len:

 

[michellem]

Don't know what a survivor is... o.O

[Tommyrod]

A Survivor isn't a role on POG.

For those not in the know, a Survivor is a third/neutral party that wins with either town or mafia, just has to survive to endgame.

Since I exist, there are 2 wolves in this game.

[Sleeper Service]

So theoretically speaking is there any reason for MAFIA not to claim that role? Is there ALWAYS a survivor in basic setups (i.e., a reason not to claim it would be inevitable counter-claims)?

[Tommyrod]

So theoretically speaking is there any reason for MAFIA not to claim that role? Is there ALWAYS a survivor in basic setups (i.e., a reason not to claim it would be inevitable counter-claims)?

 

I see it in around ~25% of games, maybe less.

 

It's a good fake claim if scum knows there isn't one.

[Sleeper Service]

I'm going to treat you as if the claim never happened until it becomes verifiable somehow, works for you?

[Niniel]

I´ve seen survivors in a lot of DM games but it´s often in larger games. This is my take:

 

1. If fake = mafia  -> lynch

 

2. If right then there are no guarantees that he will side with town. He does what needs to be done to win. He is not town!  -> lynch

 

3. A common fake claim for another 3rd party role (like sk)  -> lynch

 

 

I don´t know how many games I´ve been in where everyone says that we can lynch the survivor later and then town has lost. 

[Sili Quirrels]

Aj was the sk last game, confused his slot with a survivor, and I called him out on it and no one did anything.

 

Sucked.

 

Of course, as it turns out the mod kills him, he flips as you would expect, then I'm lyncehd and rerand as scum and win.

 

So you take your dividends is the morale of the story I suppose.  Life is like a box of chocolates.

[Sleeper Service]

 

 

Cory might be scum

Likelyhood?

30-40% max

 

I just dislike when he goes full aggro to start and disagrees with me on basic stuff

 

Cory explain the Tina read cuz it's bad juju over here

 

 

This is not me pushing you:

 

Can you explain why the Tina read is "bad juju" for you? I thought sili's first posts simply weren't very good, and that Tina dropped in and made a reasonable vote that I couldn't object to based on sili's posts. It also seems that sili isn't the kind of player who would be a target for a drive-by mafia snipe-vote, so I'm puzzled. Explain the counter-position to me.

[Sleeper Service]

And for that matter if it looks bad for anyone, it reads a lot like more like cory could be mafia making a thin but correct town read on Tina just to try to look good, than it looks bad for Tina, imo.

[Sleeper Service]

I think I just answered my own question.

[michellem]

He's probably not a SK in a 12 player basic, an SK and a mafia would go through town like hot knife in butter.

 

Hey Tommy, who's your character.

[Tommyrod]

I'm going to treat you as if the claim never happened until it becomes verifiable somehow, works for you?

 

Don't care

 

I´ve seen survivors in a lot of DM games but it´s often in larger games. This is my take:

 

1. If fake = mafia  -> lynch

 

2. If right then there are no guarantees that he will side with town. He does what needs to be done to win. He is not town!  -> lynch

 

3. A common fake claim for another 3rd party role (like sk)  -> lynch

 

 

I don´t know how many games I´ve been in where everyone says that we can lynch the survivor later and then town has lost. 

 

I've never seen this happen. I saw AJ claim it as SK once? I might not claim D1 if I was someone else, but I can't win if I get NK'd for being too seery or something

[Tommyrod]

He's probably not a SK in a 12 player basic, an SK and a mafia would go through town like hot knife in butter.

 

Hey Tommy, who's your character.

 

"He who once was, and now is Xed"