Freemasons vs. Illuminati - Day One

[Yates]

Also, new fake claim time.

Fake Claim: Seer

I want GF, Addi, and BFG to claim/confirm claim. Otherwise, I have to waste an investigation on one of their slots tonight. And that is always a drag.

[Andrej]

Yates you are wasting time with your focus here.

 

Only way that they aren't Masons if is one of the real Masons was dumb enough to fake claim VT in this situation.

 

Extremely horrible gambit imo

[Andrej]

Your best bet is to just roll with it for now.

 

The truth will come out eventually but your focus here gives you something to talk about without actually helping the game progress.

 

We've already decided we're lynching from the NM pool. Why aren't you voting? Why aren't you pushing?

[Yates]

Your best bet is to just roll with it for now.

 

Why aren't you pushing?

Do you see how these two things are contradictory?

 

I went through and looked at Des's ISO - as you claimed to have done.  I know with like 90% certainty that I know who his partner is.  His partner claimed VT.  That means someone in that list of 3 is not a mason.  My hunch is that the the outlier is scum.  I would like to lynch scum.  Therefore I am PUSHING this angle rather than "rolling" with it.  Are you trying to protect somebody?

[Andrej]

Pretty sure you're wrong about Despot's Mason buddy then.

[Andrej]

You are pushing in a direction that shouldn't be pushed in - so no, it's not contradictory.

 

You said yourself that it was obvious we are lynching from within the NM pool

[Andrej]

I'll play your game though Yates.

 

Lay it out for me.

 

Who do you think is Despot's buddy that is being silly and claiming VT?

 

Which of the 3 that haven't claimed do you feel fits this 'outlier' category? Can you narrow it down to a potential suspect or are you just going to continue floating around that 1 of the 3 has to be mafia while the rest of us POE down our lynch potentials within the NM pool? Which includes you, btw.

 

I'm becoming increasingly sure that you're scum this round.

[Yates]

I think Addi is the scum.

[Andrej]

So vote her maybe?

[Yates]

I could check tonight, but she hasn't claimed mason.  So if I check her and it comes back "not mason" she can always lie tomorrow and just say she didn't know she had to claim.

[Yates]

Well, she hasn't posted.  I don't know if she's going to claim mason or not.  If she claims "not mason" THEN I go back to investigating in the pool of VT's.

[Andrej]

I really doubt one of the Masons would claim VT in this situation.

 

Who do you think is the gambit puller?

 

I want to recheck Despot's ISO to see how you could've came to this conclusion or if you're just blowing smoke.

 

Stop with the Seer WIFOM too, btw.

[Andrej]

Yates

 

u FROZEN br0?

[Yates]

Waiting for Addi to post.

[keyholder21]

Yates, why do you think Addi is scum and when did you decide this?

[keyholder21]

Well, she hasn't posted.  I don't know if she's going to claim mason or not.  If she claims "not mason" THEN I go back to investigating in the pool of VT's.

I think it's apparent in the thread that you want her claim. If you plan to go back to investigating VTs after her claim then what difference does her claim make on you right now?

 

 

A) She claims mason, now what? Investigating VTs?

 

B) She claims not mason, now what? Investigating VTs?

[keyholder21]

Furthermore, you thought I was scummy yesterday enough to keep your vote on me, you think Lenlo spewed me or dice scum, and thought I was advocating you scum based on my post last night. I'm also in the list of non-masons so I'm confused as to why you aren't at least pressuring me, if not voting for me.

[Yates]

There are two scum left. I would like to catch both.

 

I need Addi's claim.

 

I know what I'm doing.

[Andrej]

Stop avoiding questions Yates.

 

You don't have enough village equity for me just to let you be atm. I don't trust you enough and the way you're pulling back into a shell doesn't make me feel any better.

[Andrej]

 

FTR Dice - you should start formatting your votes correctly or I think they'll be missed.

 

[ v ] [ /v ] That's all you need plus whoever you're voting in the middle.

 

Clov - you were voting Key at EOD. That suggests to me she was pretty firmly in your bottom 3

 

 

I was told by Darthe to do it as :vote whoever so it should work

Btw Dice you're basically POE'd down as almost lock scum at this point.

 

This is all you wanna comment on?

[Yates]

Stop avoiding questions Yates.

I know what I'm doing.

I need Addi's claim.

 

That's that. I don't care what you think of my "Town equity." If you makes you feel better, just assume I'm terrible at being scum and let me paint myself into a corner.

[Andrej]

Unofficial VC 4

 

Yates (1): AJ

Hallia (2): Dice, TG

Addi (1): Hallia

Dice (1): Clov

 

Not Voting: GF, BFG, Yates, Key, Addi

[Andrej]

At least answer me when I ask who you think is fake claiming VT as Despot's Mason so I can check your logic.

 

It might also give them incentive to stop pulling such a bad move if you are correct and THEN we can apply pressure to the non claimed.

 

This is premature imo and making it look like you're unable to convincingly case anyone so instead you are wasting time with a narrative on the noob who hasn't posted in 3-4 days.

[Yates]

At least answer me when I ask who you think is fake claiming VT as Despot's Mason so I can check your logic.

No. That's counter-productive.

 

Like I said, just assume I'm scum, then. Let me make myself obvscum and spew some Town or my scum buddy before stringing me up. *shrug* Makes no difference to me.

[Andrej]

Wow.

 

Alright then