[Standard] Cory vs. Bad Dietary Habits & Laziness Mafia, Mafia Sweep

[csarmi]

Forget claims, just go on play.

[dicetosser1]

Agreed. Tinfoiling on his sudden severe increase in awesome though.

 

will respond as i thought before i saw the last quote.

 

 

OI!!!!  I improved myself!!!

 

lol

 

 

Des, good. You're not Darthe so I can actually ask you. I think CS has to heal tg today. Like mandatory. I think they didn't actually claim healer but talked about healers so people would assume they were. So, if tg dies they can say they didn't on purpose but if a super clear person dies they can say "I never explicitly said I was healer. I was just talking about a healer"

 

 

I don't remember a Hardclaim.

 

^^ This   I was going to point this out tonight. I think csarmi just asked should TG be healed. Didnt actually say "I am the healer"

 

Now to contradict myself as well, the above is clearly paranoia since not trusting someone for playing better is retarded.

 

[Arsis]

That's kinda not the point of what I was saying tho...

 

Halligeddon is LOCK CLEAR. Stahp tinfoiling for no reason

 

Arsis, discuss Yates, TI, and krak

Yes, sir. Lmao. It made sense to my tired brain.

 

 

I liked Yates all game up until the beginning of this day. He seemed to be trying to figure things out and scum hunt. Then he started pushing tommy strangely with stuff that didn't make a lot of sense. Maybe to cover for pral/turi? I'd keep a close eye on him.

 

Ti is scum 100% I don't like him at all. He has been bad most of the game. The worst thing is that eod he stopped pushing his strongest scum read because two people he has a scum cleared him. That's just terrible. Should be lynched today.

 

Krak is probably scum. I didn't like his intro after being "sick." And his vote at the end of the day was strange at best. Nothing he's done or said made much sense to me. Maybe he's still feverish. More likely he is scum.

[csarmi]

I was quite satisfied with Dice's former play. He was obvious as Mafia for me. And his late game reading was spot on.

 

Problem was they'd mislynch him in late days instead of using his reads cause I would be dead by then.

[Arsis]

Arsis, do you believe I'm scum?

Honestly, no. I don't.

 

I've just seen scum do what you do to get cred/survive longer. So, I'm tinfoiling a bit. Are you the poisoner trying to live another night in order to poison another?

[Arsis]

 

 

Agreed. Tinfoiling on his sudden severe increase in awesome though.

will respond as i thought before i saw the last quote.

 

 

OI!!!! I improved myself!!!

 

lol

 

Des, good. You're not Darthe so I can actually ask you. I think CS has to heal tg today. Like mandatory. I think they didn't actually claim healer but talked about healers so people would assume they were. So, if tg dies they can say they didn't on purpose but if a super clear person dies they can say "I never explicitly said I was healer. I was just talking about a healer"

 

 

I don't remember a Hardclaim.

^^ This I was going to point this out tonight. I think csarmi just asked should TG be healed. Didnt actually say "I am the healer"

Now to contradict myself as well, the above is clearly paranoia since not trusting someone for playing better is retarded.

What do you make of that? Is it significant or am I too paranoid?

[hazelkrs1]

Since I didn't do this before-

 

My summarized blurb on TI:

 

- before Ithi left she was way off her town meta. As town she is essentially suspicious of everyone, and active in scumhunting and pressuring others. This game she tunneled on TG for policy reasons, then defended herself only, and kinda poorly at that

- Turin flip flopped his stance on TG's miller claim, first saying it was plausible and stuff, then backing Ithi up about how Miller claims HAD TO GO

- He later said he was merely reaction testing Csarmi when he was believing the claim ITT. LAWLZ. Also Turin often makes fun of people who claim to have done stuff "for reactions" so yeah jokes on him or us here, you pick

- He also claimed that he initially DIDN'T trust the miller claim till called on it (prob shoulda put this point above the previous one /shrug)

- He uses buzzwords to back stuff up instead of spelling it out more- which is DEF off his town meta

- Besides his generically wolfy push on TG, he tried making his push look more believable with the classic "why aren't you voting me then", making it look like TG was scummy for not voting Turin immediately

- Has tunneled on me but in a weak manner, not like him trying to actively push but just soft push to keep up appearances

- Ever since it looked like he couldn't get TG or me lynched, has instead gone for opportunistic pushes here or there (@Arsis, @Vos, @AJ)

 

I have more but we're starting audit unfortunately

http://youtu.be/zDp-KA7-hnY

 

I make a very compelling argument

[hazelkrs1]

Darthe if you're still up I'd like to hear your non-tinfoil thoughts

[hazelkrs1]

I should prob specify-

 

Feel free to tinfoil, just leave the Poisoned/Healer thing out

[dicetosser1]

I was quite satisfied with Dice's former play. He was obvious as Mafia for me. And his late game reading was spot on.

 

Problem was they'd mislynch him in late days instead of using his reads cause I would be dead by then.

 

thats why i had to improve. i got sick of being mislynched and not being able to get my arguments listened to

[dicetosser1]

@arsis  i was thinking about it because i saw tommy taking it as a claim. It was more that it needed to be pointed out that it wasnt an actual deadset claim in my thinking.

 

I have Cs/hallia as town before the claim/nonclaim. I j

[Arsis]

Forget claims, just go on play.

I missed this one. I'm not forgetting anything. Don't be silly.

 

 

Alright kids I'm off to bed.

[hazelkrs1]

So we go from tinfoiling about pointless stuff to patting each other on the back

 

 

...

 

 

Anyone wanna actually hunt scum tonight?

[Arsis]

So we go from tinfoiling about pointless stuff to patting each other on the back

 

 

...

 

 

Anyone wanna actually hunt scum tonight?

Are you grouchy no one is patting you on the back? You're great and everyone is jealous of your rugged masculinity. Also your case was very well presented and logically consistent.

[csarmi]

@Arsis - you got weird notions. I had zero pressure. Absolutely no chance of being lynched today (or anytime soon for that matter). That's a FACT I believe.

[csarmi]

So your tin foiling and/or fishing. What kind of town agenda does that fit? Why do you bring this up?

 

But if we're there - what do you think about those who didn't catch what you did? Why do you think they're acting that way? Does that make them town, scum? And why?

[csarmi]

@arsis i was thinking about it because i saw tommy taking it as a claim. It was more that it needed to be pointed out that it wasnt an actual deadset claim in my thinking.

 

I have Cs/hallia as town before the claim/nonclaim. I j

So why do you think everyone is treating it as a hard claim? Would that come from town, scum or maybe both?

[hazelkrs1]

 

So we go from tinfoiling about pointless stuff to patting each other on the back

 

 

...

 

 

Anyone wanna actually hunt scum tonight?

Are you grouchy no one is patting you on the back? You're great and everyone is jealous of your rugged masculinity. Also your case was very well presented and logically consistent.

[Arsis]

I'm not fishing. I didn't ask for anything. I just didn't like the way things were going. I'm not even pressuring you here. I'm saying that I'm not sure there is a healer. If there is tg should be healed. The way it happened stuck out to me so I'm pointing it out to see what other people think.

 

I think the way things went that people took an idea and ran with it. I've seen it happen. I don't think missing something small is alignment indicative.

[hazelkrs1]

[unvote]

 

[V]TI[/v]

 

Not caught up so don't know VC, but seeing a lot of people say they're scummy yet their lynch keeps getting diverted. Resist the wolfy pull imo

[csarmi]

In fact, Arsis I find it interesting that you're dead set on trying to discredit my possible claim and do nothing more based on that.

 

No analysis on people reactions. No analysis on possible motivations behind it. No analysis on whether getting a clear stance on anyone (cause that's what the action should amount to from your POV) would be town or scum motivated and why.

[csarmi]

So let's play ball. Do your work.

[hazelkrs1]

Csarmi Arsis is LOCK CLEAR

 

Arsis Csarmi is LOCK CLEAR

 

Now would y'all quit it already? Friggin pointless

[Arsis]

All I did was say that I think you should heal tg and that I didn't see a Hardclaim so why are people acting like it's a lock?

 

 

I said what I thought. I thought people heard about the healer and ran with it in an attempt to figure things out. I only went back to look at it because it wasn't making sense to me. I think it's likely town as scum wouldn't want to push something they're not 100% sure isn't going to backfire on them. Unless it's a gambit and you're on a team. More likely town imo.

[csarmi]

That don't mean he shouldn't do work on this topic if he brought it up.

 

Why is he lock clear BTW?