[Advanced] Woodstock 1969 Mafia - Town wins

[Thane Vakarian]

yeah, i do that once a day, or try to. Tommy, i think it wasn't smart claiming D1, but yeah, it happened. Hopefully the doc is around, and you can use your role abilities at least once.  

[Tommyrod]

Thane if I wasn't cop but a dayvig and I shot you right now would that be bad IYO?

[hazelkrs1]

 

 

Too safe of a list imo Thane. What's your gutsiest read atm?

i know it's a safe list.... but like i said, early D1 lock clears or lock scums.... nah, people deserve a chance. Gutsiest read: saying you're town when quite some people in here think otherwise. Either you have me fooled and i'll pay the price for it later, or we'll try to work together this game and still win as town

That's not a very gutsy read- quite a few other people have me as town so far. Also looks like you could be buddying or soft-white knighting me.

 

Also kinda wish I hadn't deleted the other part of this post- Csarmi's post to Thane looked like it coulda been a scumnate coaching or interacting with a teammate on thread. Could def see Csarmi/Thane as scum/scum as well.

[Thane Vakarian]

well, yeah, i think it would be bad and a loss for town. The game went to a zillion posts in no time, so i'm trying hard to get thoughts together. Main reads are gut feeling

[hazelkrs1]

 

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[v]Salami[/v]

 

Hey Salami good news! You get to now tell me calmly and rationally why you're not the best lynch for today and who is. "Gut feels" and greater than signs without explanation aren't gonna cut it anymore I'm afraid!

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[V]Salami[/v]

 

I'm not playing your game. Do whatever you will.

Self-vote already?

 

Real emo, fake emo, or do you just not care to help town win?

[Pralaya]

Updated VC:

 

AJ (2): Arsis, Vos

Tom (1): Krak

Des (1): Hallia

Darthe (1): AJ

Arsis (1): Dice

Csarmi(3) : Tommy, Des, Csarmi

 

Not Voting: Darthe, BFG, Drunk Tank, Kates, Lenlo, Tglems, Thane

 

Need 9 votes to lynch

 

Since we have a good activity now, deadline set on Monday Night EST 11:30 PM

 

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140909T09&p0=438&msg=Woodstock+Mafia+Deadline

 

[hazelkrs1]

well, yeah, i think it would be bad and a loss for town. The game went to a zillion posts in no time, so i'm trying hard to get thoughts together. Main reads are gut feeling

D1 vigging you would result in a loss for town?

 

 

Also- Bleurgh @ gut feelings. Support your reads/ stances. Use words. Leave your gastrointestinal system out of this.

[Thane Vakarian]

 

 

Too safe of a list imo Thane. What's your gutsiest read atm?

i know it's a safe list.... but like i said, early D1 lock clears or lock scums.... nah, people deserve a chance. Gutsiest read: saying you're town when quite some people in here think otherwise. Either you have me fooled and i'll pay the price for it later, or we'll try to work together this game and still win as town

That's not a very gutsy read- quite a few other people have me as town so far. Also looks like you could be buddying or soft-white knighting me.

 

Also kinda wish I hadn't deleted the other part of this post- Csarmi's post to Thane looked like it coulda been a scumnate coaching or interacting with a teammate on thread. Could def see Csarmi/Thane as scum/scum as well.

 

ok Des, i'll give you that. People have read you town, but you had a lot of votes already as well. And from my experience in mafia games, i'm not surprised people get a scumread on me. Happens all games. This time though, i'll try to be constructive about it and try to stay active (as much as RL lets me) FTR; I don't think Csarms is town...

[csarmi]

 

 

I always get flak for saying I'm bad day 1 and I still always say it because it's true. Dt can poke fun all she wants.

 

 

That said des/aj are on a team.

Gimme some reasoning; I'm interested in your last sentence here

Just a gut feeling. Aj is playing things way too neutral to be town. He's trying to save des while not making himself look bad and being in a good position to bus.

 

 

That's how it looks to me.

About Arsis vs AJ. I liked Arsis points. AJ came off bad to me.

 

About whom to lynch.

 

I wouldn't touch Tommy, Hally, Dice and Vos for now. Arsis neither.

 

Despo is scum I believe look up my vote with that quote. That sort of fishing never comes from a town!Despo mouth.

 

Thane is sketchy. Wanna give him time acclimatise tho. He has great instincts as town.

 

Dislike AJ but I'd pass on him for now. Not confident at reading him. I'd ask BFG.

[hazelkrs1]

Vote him with us then. He don't seem to care about staying alive to help catch scum.

[Tommyrod]

THANE:

I actually would guess you're town

GUT FEELS LOL

 

Everyone please take a number you'll all get a chance to be soulread by me

Look into my eyes and tell me your fur didn't stand on end when I claimed cop
 

LOOK. AT. MY. EYES.

[hazelkrs1]

 

 

 

I always get flak for saying I'm bad day 1 and I still always say it because it's true. Dt can poke fun all she wants.

 

 

That said des/aj are on a team.

Gimme some reasoning; I'm interested in your last sentence here

Just a gut feeling. Aj is playing things way too neutral to be town. He's trying to save des while not making himself look bad and being in a good position to bus.

 

 

That's how it looks to me.

About Arsis vs AJ. I liked Arsis points. AJ came off bad to me.

 

About whom to lynch.

 

I wouldn't touch Tommy, Hally, Dice and Vos for now. Arsis neither.

 

Despo is scum I believe look up my vote with that quote. That sort of fishing never comes from a town!Despo mouth.

 

Thane is sketchy. Wanna give him time acclimatise tho. He has great instincts as town.

 

Dislike AJ but I'd pass on him for now. Not confident at reading him. I'd ask BFG.

[hazelkrs1]

Too tired to point out everything wrong with that post.

[hazelkrs1]

THANE:

 

I actually would guess you're town

 

GUT FEELS LOL

 

Everyone please take a number you'll all get a chance to be soulread by me

Look into my eyes and tell me your fur didn't stand on end when I claimed cop

 

LOOK. AT. MY. EYES.

My fur didn't stand on end. My hackles were raised tho. When Hallia soft claimed it sent me into full on emorage.

[Tommyrod]

 

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[v]Salami[/v]

 

Hey Salami good news! You get to now tell me calmly and rationally why you're not the best lynch for today and who is. "Gut feels" and greater than signs without explanation aren't gonna cut it anymore I'm afraid!

[unvote]

 

[V]Salami[/v]

 

I'm not playing your game. Do whatever you will.

 

 

Salami see the bold and blue. I am still waiting but I won't wait forever. I have a fickle heart and another man will come along and woo me and he will be from Budapest and he will have a beard and he will be named Bologna unless you step in and woo me first

[csarmi]

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Salami[/v]

 

Hey Salami good news! You get to now tell me calmly and rationally why you're not the best lynch for today and who is. "Gut feels" and greater than signs without explanation aren't gonna cut it anymore I'm afraid!

[unvote]

 

[V]Salami[/v]

 

I'm not playing your game. Do whatever you will.

Self-vote already?

 

Real emo, fake emo, or do you just not care to help town win?

Just a strong statement that I'm not gonna play Captain Tom's games.

 

Tom, you can lead town if you will. You can lynch me. You can make me follow your lead.

 

But you will NOT tell me how to play.

 

Now if you wanna lynch me be my guest. You got my vote.

[Drunk Tank]

Meh, I dunno, I think DES vs TOMMY is town/town. And I think it has drawn so much attention that it's a bit exhausting. 

 

I also don't understand in which world Tommy hardclaiming Cop would auto-clear him, as he says it will. Dumb cop to CC day 1. 

 

Problem is, I have a town read on almost everyone. Too many people not being vocal, it's just been a couple of hours of, as I said, who got the biggest... 

 

Betting most scum is just sitting back and enjoying the show. 

 

Gun to my head, from the people who has been vocal tonight my gut says AJ is scum. Arsis, Des, Tommy and Csarmi is town. I have a bad feeling about Hallia, and I dunno what kind of role she would have that confirms Tommy, but I'll let it slide for now since I don't see why she would do that as scum. 

 

I am also concerned about Hallia being able to confidently support Tommyrod. The assertion of masons doesn't support Tommyrod's claim of cop, yet Hallia is able to say he is telling the truth. 

 

That is a humongous gamble for scum since Tommyrod has clearly put himself up as THE Night One target. What happens when Tommyrod lives after Night Two, Three etc...?

 

Will anyone remember this exchange??

[csarmi]

 

 

 

 

Des, what do you think about the things I listed versus Tommy? You have a lot more experience with playing with him. What does your gut say about him (forget about the claim for now).

Tnt I don't really see the point in debating Tommy's alignment at this point. He claimed, and Hallia couched for him. Would be much more productive to pressure someone else imo.

 

If he's scum, his particular claim sort of has him roped in a bit.

I'm not pressuring him... I'm interested in your thoughts - cause they could be of help (especially if you're scum).

My thoughts on how to read Tommy are pretty much irrelevant right now. We already got into a huge spat, may have just been committing town on town, and regardless he's claimed. Claimed a fairly specific claim that someone else corroberated.

 

Spending any time talking about Tommy right now and whether and how he could be scum is completely counter-productive. I agree with Tommy here- you're tinfoiling on him is kinda scummy. You could be trying to derail discussion back to crap that don't matter, maybe even in an attempt to rustle his jimmies.

Sorry for quoting the whole stuff but I'm from phone. My point is that I'd like to read YOU. Build up a map on how your thought process went this game. Maybe I'll realize its not a scum one. If you help me.

[Tommyrod]

Salami all I want is some exposition and explanation -- with the keywords bolded in blue above -- and your reaction is to rage vote yourself and tell me you won't let me lead town. What am I supposed to do? Agree?

 

"Thanks for the self vote of petulance, you're absolutely right, I'll look elsewhere!"

[hazelkrs1]

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[hazelkrs1]

That ellipse was in reaction to Csarmi's post btw

[Tommyrod]

 

Meh, I dunno, I think DES vs TOMMY is town/town. And I think it has drawn so much attention that it's a bit exhausting. 

 

I also don't understand in which world Tommy hardclaiming Cop would auto-clear him, as he says it will. Dumb cop to CC day 1. 

 

Problem is, I have a town read on almost everyone. Too many people not being vocal, it's just been a couple of hours of, as I said, who got the biggest... 

 

Betting most scum is just sitting back and enjoying the show. 

 

Gun to my head, from the people who has been vocal tonight my gut says AJ is scum. Arsis, Des, Tommy and Csarmi is town. I have a bad feeling about Hallia, and I dunno what kind of role she would have that confirms Tommy, but I'll let it slide for now since I don't see why she would do that as scum. 

 

I am also concerned about Hallia being able to confidently support Tommyrod. The assertion of masons doesn't support Tommyrod's claim of cop, yet Hallia is able to say he is telling the truth. 

 

That is a humongous gamble for scum since Tommyrod has clearly put himself up as THE Night One target. What happens when Tommyrod lives after Night Two, Three etc...?

 

Will anyone remember this exchange??

 

What is your point? Why did you make this post? I'm serious, I don't understand why you would make this post or why it's helpful. Everything you said here is completely obvious and adds nothing new to the thread, the only net effect I can see it having is to spread doubt. So why did you post it? What did you think it would accomplish?

[hazelkrs1]

That ellipse was in reaction to Csarmi's post btw

Rather- in response to the second to last post of Csarmi's

[dicetosser1]

awwww poor widdle tommy!!  did i dare to disbelieve your town??  how BAD of me   and on D1 where you claimed cop for no reason!  how COULD i doubt you??

 

 

heres a fact  that cop claim is about the only reason im not voting you.

 

 Des was right however  i was catching up and quoting as i went so i could respond to things i had thoughts on. forgive me if i did something you didnt like.

[Thane Vakarian]

so... instead of Des/Tommy it's Csarmi/Tommy now....? [déjà vu]