[Advanced] Twilight Mafia Game over - Mafia win

[dawnflower8]

Well, who do you think is scum? I think Hallia is scum, so that's why I'm voting her. I'm not trying to lynch more townies.

[Tommyrod]

Well obviously I disapprove of your assessment but I have the added advantage of knowing I'm town whereas you do not. For now I'll shake hands and try to find the scum since I don't think it's you.

 

It seems more likely to me that we have had enough town-town battles ITG for scum to be complacent and demure rather than us having uber hidden deep cover wolves who are lol saying awesome. That violence is partly my fault, partly all of our faults. So who is not clear and fits this criteria? All four of my suspects, and the pattern emerges anew.

 

So I'm wondering where you stand: if you had 3 vig shots and had to use them right now, who would you shoot?

[dawnflower8]

Well obviously I disapprove of your assessment but I have the added advantage of knowing I'm town whereas you do not. For now I'll shake hands and try to find the scum since I don't think it's you.

 

It seems more likely to me that we have had enough town-town battles ITG for scum to be complacent and demure rather than us having uber hidden deep cover wolves who are lol saying awesome. That violence is partly my fault, partly all of our faults. So who is not clear and fits this criteria? All four of my suspects, and the pattern emerges anew.

 

So I'm wondering where you stand: if you had 3 vig shots and had to use them right now, who would you shoot?

Are vig shots for shooting people you think are scum?

 

I'd shoot Hallia, you, and maybe Lenlo.

[Tommyrod]

I was talking to Verb, but thanks.

 

When and how did I become one of your top suspects? I'm still unclear on that. You said it had something to do with defending you at first?

[Pralaya]

Pralaya is correct on Lenlo.  If he was scum, he'd simply lie and say that the answers don't support Des......who would be a very likely lynch prospect.  He's been doubted all game, so that would be an easy way for the mafia to achieve a mislynch.

 

But he didn't - he confirmed Des.  Even though it is possible that he's confident we'll mislynch anyway and just in case wants to falsely clear Des (if they are both scum), they are off the table for today.

 

Tom is voting Clov, but looks to be hunting for a better target that people would join.  This is not indicative of townie behavior.

It is also possible that both Len and Des are scum. I had thought about it but seemed far fetched at the time. When Tommy made the point about clearing someone incorrectly, I just thought about this more. Both Len and Des had claimed on D2 without any pressure. While Tina and Hallia claims came under vote pressure, there were not too many votes on either of Len or Des when they claimed. They just claimed out of the blue. Combined with the questions that Len asked, it is a bit of a coincidence that out of the three that he had to clear, one of them was NKed and another was vig-ged by Des, leaving Des who can easily be cleared as town.

 

Basically, I think both Len and Des are linked now. Either both of them are town or both are scum. That's why Des' vote on Lenlo does not make sense to me.

[Hallia]

unvote

 

Im a town JOAT. I had a cop shot that I used the first night on Cory, which is what Tina saw, last night I used my track shot on Verb and he visited me. Noe, as I am obviously alive and wasn't blocked I'm fairly sure verb is town.

[Tommyrod]

The plot thickens!

 

Why did I get stuck with vanilla?

 

I don't deserve this.

[Tommyrod]

So Verb, you casting spells on people?

[Verbal32]

@Dawn - you need to unvote.

 

Did you read the very real scenario I posted.....twice?

 

Let's assume you are town, and wrong about your scum read.  If 1 other town hops onto that train, and Hallia is actually town, the scum can just all pile on and get a mislynch.  If this happens, THE GAME IS OVER.

 

Do you understand this scenario?  Please respond.  If you do, then you need to unvote to remove the potential.  Des & Clov need to do the same.

 

 

 

As a town, we need to move in lockstep this game.  Discuss on thread, and come to a consensus.  THEN, and only then, do we place our votes.  We do not fire from the hip - that is weak townie play.  We have plenty of time.

[Verbal32]

So Verb, you casting spells on people?

 

Shhh.....sit in the corner until I call on you.

[Leelou]

Vote Count

 

Tommy (1) - Clov

Lenlo (1) - Des

Hallia (1) - Dawn

 

Not voting - Verbal, Lenlo, Pral, Tommy, Hallia

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to vote

[Tommyrod]

 

 

So Verb, you casting spells on people?

Shhh.....sit in the corner until I call on you.

Oh you. I'm getting bashful.

[Verbal32]

Using Pralaya's list from before:

 

Des - Vig

Lenlo - Oracle

Hallia - JOAT

 

Dawn - Claimed VT

Tommy - Claimed VT

 

Verbal - I have a role

Clov - unknown

Pralaya - unknown

 

 

@Clov & Pral - are you guys VT or roled?  No harm in admitting this now - we're toast if we mislynch anyway.

[Verbal32]

@Des - do you have another shot?

[Pralaya]

I am vanilla town

[Tommyrod]

I am vanilla town

"Not enough VTs"

 

XD

[Verbal32]

We need Des to show up and weigh in here.  And Clov.

 

 

 

And we need them and Dawn to freakin' unvote.  This is mafia101, folks.

[dawnflower8]

I think you should just ignore all those claims...since all the mafia fake claimed unless Clov is scum and I don't think he is.

[Tommyrod]

I think you should just ignore all those claims...since all the mafia fake claimed unless Clov is scum and I don't think he is.

I just love posts like this.

[Verbal32]

I think you should just ignore all those claims...since all the mafia fake claimed unless Clov is scum and I don't think he is.

The longer you refuse to unvote, the greater the chance YOU are lynched today.

 

If you are town, you will unvote so we don't accidentally mislynch.

[dawnflower8]

Why would me keeping my vote cause us to mislynch? I'm the only one currently voting for Hallia.

[Verbal32]

What is this...I don't even....

 

 

I'm speechless.

[Verbal32]

Dawn is being coached. Nobody is this clueless unless they are doing it on purpose.

[Tommyrod]

I think that rules me out as scum then because I would do a much better job.

[dawnflower8]

....except I'm not being coached.