[Advanced] Twilight Mafia Game over - Mafia win

[Lenlo]

Unvote. 

 

Csarmi still hasn´t posted. 

 

I believe Des to be town. Except for the initial contradictions, I have liked his posts and can understand how he is thinking. Des has four votes - Dawn, Darthe, Jack, Clov.

 

Dawn - really don´t like her latest posts either. Her reason for voting Des is because his tone is like someone else´s tone in another game. And Clov is "scummy". I´m not sure why she thinks I´m suspicious, maybe I´m "scummy" too. There are no proper reasons at all. She doesn´t comment on anyones gameplay. At the same time - would mafia let someone play this way if they were on a team? You that have played with her before - how did she behave then and how is compared to this game?

 

Darthe - parked his vote on Des pretty early. A vote that I don´t agree with. I must say that I haven´t paid a lot of attention to Darthe so far though.

 

Jack - I really don´t like his play at all. He OMGUS voted me and stayed there for a long time and then when Des called him out for it he voted Des instead. 

 

Clov - I see what Des is saying. I was satisfied with Clov´s explanation but Des might be right. 

 

 

From these I would rather vote Jack but could vote Clov as well. 

 

Vote Jack

More fence sitting. The only one she even remotely calls scum is Jack and she only says "I really don't like his play.". Everything else is "I didn't pay attention to. Him", "I can see what they are both saying" so on and so forth. Seriously? Does no one lose see this? She has yet to give an actual opinion on anyone she just keeps recapping what's happened since her last post!

 

See that Clov opinion? "I was satisfied with Clov's explanation but Des might be right."... This is fence sitting incarnate. PICK A SIDE SOMEWHERE SWITZERLAND! Heck the only people she is looking at in this post are those voting Des, her biggest effete dear, without even looking at anyone else. What about me Tina? Your biggest opposer? Got anything to say about me? Or would that require you to take to much of an actual stance on the issues in game?

 

##unvote vote Jack we don't have time for a Tina lynch so I'm going Jack to consolidate, but come D2 I'm pushing your lynch. You have been the scum midst in the the game this whole time IMO.

[Lenlo]

 

2. Tina

5. Des

4. BFG

9. Dice

12. Verbal

11. Hallia

13. Pral

8. Darthe

10. Tommy

3. Dawn

1. Jack

14. Lenlo

7. Clovdyx

 

where it's at

(i've got two turntables and a microphoooooooooone)

Hurtfuuuuuuuuull.

[Leelou]

Vote Count
 

Jack (6) - Tina, Dice, Des, Cory, BFG, Lenlo
Des-Des (4) - Dawn, Darthe, Jack, Clov

 
Not Voting - Tommy, Verbal, Pral, Hallia
 
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch
 
DEADLINE: Tuesday, Noon EST - under 2 hours

[Cory Caboose]

I still love you, you have plenty of time to prove me wrong.

[Sedai]

It is also weird that Cory calls out those as lock scum that have went after Tina.

 

Des

Tina

Cory

Bfg

 

Most likely to be scum. #solved

[Lenlo]

Oh in the post it says effete dear. That's supposed to be defender. I don't know what the heck auto correct was thinking with that.

[Lenlo]

Pral, anyone, we need you to switch over to Jack. We have abit over and hour.

[Lenlo]

This is why we shouldn't wait so close to deadline for a lynch makes it easy for mafia to decide who lives and what goes random.

[Leelou]

This is why we shouldn't wait so close to deadline for a lynch makes it easy for mafia to decide who lives and what goes random.

 

Again, it's not random. People should not assume. 

[Lenlo]

Well in general we shouldn't wait so long. But thanks Miss Mod!

[dawnflower8]

 

 

 

 

Think about the other 2 games I've played. I was scum in both of those. And I don't think I'm really playing the same way as I did the other games, am I? Other games I was scum and was contributing more (even though I did joke around a lot in my last game.)

 

*flaps wings and clucks like a chicken*

 

 

This post right here- defending yourself by attempting to use your own meta- only strengthens the scumread I have on you Dawn.

 

Think about it for a sec.

 

How difficult would it be to change your playstyle a bit, after a couple of games as scum, in order to use this exact defense at this point? Not that difficult at all. This makes the point you raised completely moot.

 

Furthermore as a newer player, your meta is much more subject to change than most, but honestly I would contest that your play isn't even all that different. I don't care to compare those games with this one however- in this one, your play has seemed scummy to me. You have pretty much failed to contribute anything to the scumhunt, even tho you've been somewhat active. You extended RVS jokes past the stage where they were relevant. You tried blaming your lack of serious play on your PR, even tho your non-serious play was the reason you got a PR in the first place.

 

So why shouldn't I find you scummy, Dawn?

 

And while we're at it- what do you think of me? Do you think I'm scum? Do you have any confident town reads?

 

What you said about the playstyle is pretty true - especially since, at this point, I am playing worse than I did in my last 2 games (not worse as in scummier, worse as in seeming more new) when I think about it. 

 

I'm not getting very good reads this game. Yes, you are at the top of my list for scum - and not just because you are Team Jacob. If that was the case, I'd probably have unvoted you by now and voted Tina or Clov (the other 2 I have scum reads for) instead. The tone of your posts sounds kind of similar to the tone of someone who happened to be mafia in another game I played.

 

Since 3 seems to be the usual number of scum in a game, I'm guessing that the 3 scum are you, Tina, and Clov. 

 

Honsetly, Csarmi does not seem very scummy to me.

 

Lot of things I don't like about this post, but then a couple that seem eh.... possibly believable.

 

1. You didn't answer a bunch of questions I asked in the post you quoted

2. You say I seem scummy to you, and not "just because" I'm on Team Jacob. Me posting #Team Jacob during the RVS stage should have NOTHING, I mean absolutely ZERO to do with any serious read you have on me. You saying "not just because" makes it seem like me being on Team Jacob would be valid reasoning at all for a serious vote, and it's not even close to valid.

3. My tone sounds "kind of similar to the tone of someone who happened to be mafia in another game". Do you realize how awful of a point this is? By being so vague and not really pointing anything out specifically about MY play, you've just made it harder to be pinned down on your reasoning. It's hard for me to believe you wouldn't even see this as terrible reasoning to think someone is scum in a game.

4. Where was I saying that Csarmi seemed scummy to me? Why are you pointing this out here? And if you think I'm scum, why would you address me like that? If I'm scum, I wouldn't "think" Csarmi is scum either. I'd know his alignment. At the very end of the post you treat me like a townie you disagree with, not someone you think is scum

 

As far as what seems slightly plausible-

 

1. Your reasoning is so bad in this post, I think you would notice that easily as scum. Question is, are you really just that newbish again after 2 relatively good games, or are you playing up your newbishness?

2. Your confusion about the number of scum seems... possibly genuine. 3 is not the "usual" number of scum, no. You're just used to playing basic games, where there are usually 12-15 players mostly. There's generally a 1:3 ratio of scum to town, so 25% of the player pool is usually a safe estimate.

 

This isn't near enough to bump you up into neutral or anything btw. I'm still thinking it's very likely you're scum, and you spitting out Clov out of nowhere makes me think it's a weak distancing attempt.

If I was still joking and didn't think you were scum, trust me, I would've unvoted you.

Also, yes, I have played 2 games before. But I was scum in both of those previous games. I have absolutely no clue how to seriously scumhunt. That's why my reasoning is so awful.

 

I know you never said anything about Csarmi, but a lot of other people did vote for him earlier, so I was just saying that I didn't think he was scum. He seems town. It was kind of irrelevant.

 

*flaps wings and clucks like a chicken*

[Cory Caboose]

Highly prefer lunching Jack to "something that will be bad for us"

 

Scum confidence level is 65%

 

His list is terribad

[Cory Caboose]

Dawn we've got an hour - please vote Jack or you won't be the only person to draw the wrath of Leelou

[Lenlo]

Highly prefer lunching Jack to "something that will be bad for us"

Scum confidence level is 65%

His list is terribad

Lunching? What are you giving him his last meal? For mine I'd like something Italian.

[Cory Caboose]

 

Highly prefer lunching Jack to "something that will be bad for us"

Scum confidence level is 65%

His list is terribad

Lunching? What are you giving him his last meal? For mine I'd like something Italian.

 

 

Lunch 'em all

[dawnflower8]

Dawn we've got an hour - please vote Jack or you won't be the only person to draw the wrath of Leelou

I don't have any good reason for voting him, though. Give me a reason and then I might.

 

*flaps wings and clucks like a chicken*

[Lenlo]

 

Dawn we've got an hour - please vote Jack or you won't be the only person to draw the wrath of Leelou

 

I don't have any good reason for voting him, though. Give me a reason and then I might.

 

*flaps wings and clucks like a chicken*

Because if we don't reach a majority bad things tend to happen as punishment. I understand you want the explanation as this is possibly your first time being an actual towny. Generally what happens when we don't reach a majority someone gets random killed sometimes with or without a coroner. We want to avoid that so even if we lynch a townie, it's better than random because we get their role and can use it to go back and Reread parts knowing they are town/scum.

[Cory Caboose]

 

Dawn we've got an hour - please vote Jack or you won't be the only person to draw the wrath of Leelou

I don't have any good reason for voting him, though. Give me a reason and then I might.

 

*flaps wings and clucks like a chicken*

 

 

Because so far his best scumhunt ability is to say that the scumgroup is Me-Tina-Des-BFG, the most obviously co-ordinated scumgroup of all time

 

He hasn't been remotely vocal, and I remember him being absurdly stubborn and willing to draw negative attention to himself as scum

 

His claim is meh

 

Because he's a better lynch than Leelou's wrath

[Cory Caboose]

Lenlo, your willingness to hang around at phase change is very pro-town so I'll give you that

 

I think we caught scum and their group is a little surprised by the sudden CFD - I think they expected consolidation on Des

[Sedai]

We can still make a Des lynch happen. Not sure why your saying I'm the only option. #fearmonger

[Lenlo]

We can't with the time and people remaining. We have an hour for a lynch with 3 people on ATM. Not enough votes that arnt already on Des to make that happen. We might not even be able to get yours.

[Cory Caboose]

Because Des is very likely town and you're prolly scum

[Pralaya]

vote jack

[Sedai]

Lenlo. Cory. Pral. And bfg/dice that makes enough

[Leelou]

Vote Count
 

Jack (7) - Tina, Dice, Des, Cory, BFG, Lenlo, Pral
Des-Des (4) - Dawn, Darthe, Jack, Clov

 
Not Voting - Tommy, Verbal, Hallia
 
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch
 
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