[Basic] Christmas Mentors & Maffia

[peacesells]

Tommy, I've never given a scum read on you?  Where are you getting this?  I questioned 1 statement you made. 

[Tommyrod]

 

If you guys had a gun to your head and had to choose would you say this is more town peace or scum peace

 

The snarkiness is a bit much

Your false bravado is overly much.  It's a crutch for player with weak ego's. 

 

How's your hold'em game?  You play online?

 

 

This is what I was referencing, though you're right that it looks less like you're attacking me here than I thought as you said I am "new guy town" right after. I am wary of people who snipe and retreat, but I'm still developing an extended post, so stay tuned.

[peacesells]

Ok..but it's funny you call me attacking you when you fired the opening salvo insulting my play with absolutely no experience with me?   You may be correct..I may be a crappy player but you had no experience with me to make a judgement like that.  Nor any credibility or friendships established here to make such a comment socially acceptable. 

 

And then to take exception to me pointing it out...well...seems a bit absurd. 

[Tommyrod]

Ok..but it's funny you call me attacking you when you fired the opening salvo insulting my play with absolutely no experience with me?   You may be correct..I may be a crappy player but you had no experience with me to make a judgement like that.  Nor any credibility or friendships established here to make such a comment socially acceptable. 

 

And then to take exception to me pointing it out...well...seems a bit absurd. 

 

I get reactions out of people. Your reaction was overly aggressive; I don't know why you'd be so insulted if I wasn't on to something :P

[peacesells]

##vote elffern

 

Because you've posted ad nauseum about why your opinion is bestest and right. I find you overly defensive, frenetic, I disagree with a substantial portion of your logic and you engage in endless whyme fryme. Even if the scum vibe I get from you is wrong, I don't find most of what you say to contribute to actual scumhunting, other than to FOS several people and then submit an OMGUS vote which you lyingly claim is based on gameplay. 

 

Ad nausem bit.  - This is a stretch.  Elfie may be tunneling me..but she sure isn't acting like her opinion is the best.  Many play that way here..but she isn't exhibiting these traits.

 

Logic bit - Doesn't bother explaining why her logic is wrong.  Just says it is.  Prove it.

 

Even if scum vibe is wrong -  Basically giving himself an out if he is somehow wrong and then giving a policy type reason for his vote - unhelpful town is worth killing type meaning.

 

Lyingly -  Is that a word.  Again, no evidence that she is lying.  She may feel exactly the way she is posting.  She may be wrong...but that doesn't mean she is lying. 

 

 

My biggest issue with Golden is that I played 1 game with him and he was very astute and succinct in that game.  Had great reasoning.  Great instincts.  Very good arguments.  He was town.   This post compared to that is a big pile of brown fiber.  His reasons lack substance. 

[Tommyrod]

Updated to be current

 

01 - Peace

The meta-aware opening of "yo" in #13. He hasn't posted poop until #114 when he sheeps Cloud's vote on Elf out of the blue. He gets snarky as poop when I question that move, and makes an art out of dodging my question for a while. Very uncomfortable with the continuation of dodging, particularly in #127 with "why is it necessary to regurgitate Cloud's reasons?" This one pings me harder the second time, because town should know why they're doing what they're doing. It should roll right off the tongue because they have an organic thought process. They develop suspicions and act on them. Yet Peace has difficulty articulating any reasoning for his vote on Elf. No bueno. 

 

When I ask if this is normal behavior, Cloud and Leelou both say yes. It doesn't mean I am going to give him a free pass for that, though. Peace gets uber snarky when I ask for more detail from other players on his play. Then he backtracks and says I'm very town in #151... I don't know how I feel about this one. Yes, townies do this sometimes, to see how people will react. But I've also seen mafia back down with a "hah! just testing you!" excuse. I'll put him down as slightly scummy by this point. Using the 2+2 forums and my ego as a counter-point is working outside of the game instead of inside it... I dislike that behavior a lot. 

 

Peace blows off Elf's vote on him with a "you need to re-read" comment in #177, which I dislike because he is twice now refusing to give reasonable justification for his original action when prompted. Why can't he produce an argument off the cuff? Ping. I dislike how he jumps on Nolder in #184 after Leelou already cast doubt on Nolder. He follows up with that in #189, which is good. 

 

Peace attacking my "you can show me you're town by scumhunting" comment in #198 by trying to spin it as pigeon-holing Turin smells like crap on second read. I've never had someone do that to me before and it doesn't even make sense. But that aside, it stinks because Peace and Turin have had no interaction with each other yet both have defended each other... why would they both be assuming I am scum and they are town? This only makes sense if they are masons or mafia. I'm guessing the latter based on their refusal to be transparent and dissect the gameplay within the thread, instead me-too-ing and OMGUSing and ignoring a large portion of the game's activity up to this point (Turin even moreso). 

 

Peace backs off of me in #207 by saying "it's the only thing about your player that had pinged me." To me this is a weird statement since that shouldn't have been a ping at all, I'm sure I've done other more pingworthy things... it makes me think he knows I'm town and wants to feel out for mislynch weakness in me since I'm the new guy and people won't defend me based on meta. 

 

I'm surprised to see Peace using me to attack Elf in #236. I can't disagree with what he's saying though, Elf not questioning Nolder is a legit concern and I *can* see why Peace would think them scummy, though I'd like to see him follow up on it if he actually thinks so. In #245 he says "when I am scum I purposefully do not defend others" which is a poop post because I rarely see town make "I'd never do that as scum!" posts. He makes it hard to clear him if he's town. Votes for Golden in #279, and I can't really disagree with that. This may be a case of townies (Peace and myself) with very different styles that don't mesh well.

 

02 - Cloud (mentored by Darthe)

Opening was timid but doesn't bother me on second read. The chat between Cloud and Leelou felt natural. He could be posting just to get posts on the board when the game starts like #22 and #23. This isn't damning by itself, though, more of a supplement. Not sure what Cloud meant by me chasing shadows in #50. I like that he asked for more details from Theo in #75, but the fact that it all just falls flat bothers me. He inadvertently defends me in #107 when he says he disagrees with Elf's comment that OP analysis is scummy. Has decent reasoning in #110: I can see why he votes for Elf in that same post, so that vote feels natural. Cloud's reasoning against Elf in #141 is fluid; he's a town lean of mine. Cloud is still on-point in #228, though I don't think Elf has the droids we're looking for. Pushing for Peace is actually a good thing; dude is scummy. His scum reads are Elf and Nolder... I disagree with the first and need more info for the second. Looks like he's starting to get suspicious of Turin in #231 which is good. Town reads on Leelou, Peace and Tom. If Cloud ends up being mafia this could be a "rule of threes" thing but I doubt he is at this point. 

 

I like that Cloud was beaten into reason by Elf and calls her town in #272 so I think Cloud is my strongest town read so far. Voting for Turin is icing on the cake.

 

03 - Krak (mentored by Verb)

Opening was fine in #30. Says Cloud has the scummiest intro in #44. I don't think it's the scummiest. @Krak, was this a meta read on Cloud? I forgot Krak was in this game until he re-appeared in #238. It's very very fluffy, but he seems to agree Turin is scummy... but gives him an out. Let's see if Krak gets more involved. Oh damn, #239 was bad. Does the "teaching how to play" thing that Turin hates but I notice Turin doesn't call him out on it in this game like Turin called out me and Nolder. But what's really bad is the vote for Cloud, who isn't scummy, and with no justification. Peace just laughs at the name "Clarthe" that Krak invented and ignores his no-justifcation vote. Ping for both of them. I notice that Krak as of #247 is still questioning Cloud, which is good in a way because he didn't just vote-and-run, but I still don't like it. He votes for Cloud again, saying he forgot, and makes a self conscious comment about how multi-posting used to be a scum tell. That's a small ping.

 

@ Krak, tweakin'? I dunno what you're asking me.

 

04 - GoldenEyes (mentored by Despothera)

Self conscious opening in #29. I have no idea what he's saying in #65, looks spammy. Comes back in #208 after a long absence and reads both me and Turin as town and makes some reads with little to no justification. Could be actually busy and not mentally invested, but ping anyway. More christmas wishes in #227; sick of that stuff, lol. Talk about the damn GAME! Elf vote in #277 feels pretty random; I agree that Elf isn't hunting, but that's mostly due to defending against Cloud. She should get more involved from here on out.

 

06 - Leelou (mentored by Wombat)

Opening seemed okay to me. Her chatter with others still feels natural and not forced by the time I enter the thread. She rebuffs me right off the bat, which is probably more town indicative than not; mafia would be more likely to sheep me (since I'm asking people to do so) and observe if I lead a mislynch to start with. It sucks that she won't try to analyze OP's though. Leeloo is getting a little too off-topic for my liking around the time #84 comes around. Votes for Nol in #104; he hasn't posted yet. Why not vote for someone else who hasn't posted like dan? Could be something, could be nothing. She's still jokey around #117 but at least comments on how Elf was backpedaling on suspicion of me. Still grinding against me in #126, but it feels genuine. Leelou is my first comfortable town read. (Looks like Cloud agrees with me in #128 and Peace grinds against that.)

 

Leelou is spot on when she says Elf is beating a dead horse and Hoof is just making consensus reads. Strong town read, like Cloud.

 

07 - Theodora (mentored by Key)

Lame opening in #12. Being friendly with Blackhoof right off the bat in that post. THEN calls Hoof scummy in #74. Not that I... blame her... but this could be a case of scum-on-scum jostling. This happens surprisingly often in early game, where mafia will point out something dumb that mafia have done and not follow up on their suspicions but later can say "hah! I knew it!" When Cloud asks about it, she instantly backs down. Which is funny, since that Hoof post pinged me hard. I would expect a townie to probe into it a bit more? 

 

08 - Elffern (mentored by Dap)

Opening is corny but not scummy in #26. Disappears for a while and then calls me too eager in #93. But that's not the most interesting part... saying Hoof is obviously scummy and not doing anything about it is. Is Hoof the least valuable player in every game or something? People don't seem to take his antics seriously, which could be dangerous if he gets to coast to endgame without serious scrutiny. Elf throws a little suspicion on me in #106 by saying that OP analysis is looking for an easy excuse to lynch. But what bothers me is the way Elf instantly retracts once Cloud disagrees. Is Elf a very timid player?

 

Elf reappears in #137 and defends and says "I haven't seen anything else suspicious." I dislike that post a lot. He defends himself, says he's got nothing to add, and adds misdirection by asking Peace to explain himself when I questioned him. Hmm. His defense is getting a little too fluffy for my liking in #153 and #154. Comments like "maybe I'm rusty." I'm noticing he tends to end posts with a misdirection question. Elf's vote for Peace in #176 is OMGUSing I think, which is kinda funny. 

 

Elf is still trying to get info out of Peace by #186, so I am doubting that they would be scumbros. The Cloud/Elf fighting by post #234 is too involved to be staged, so they aren't scumbros at least. I think it's funny that Elf says she's not fond of OMGUSing yet that's pretty much exactly what she did to Peace, lol. Who is Toddy? Is that me? Based on how Elf said Cloud is probably town, and I think Cloud is town, I believe this long winded argument is town-on-town violence (aka towning). 

 

Elf is right in #258 that we need to hear more from Hally, Theo and Golden, at a minimum.

 

09 - Hally (mentored by Yates)

Opening post #27 pinged me on second read considering how little has been said by Hallia. It's both off-topic and me-too-ing the friendly chat that Theo and Hoof had already. Notably, Hally joins in on Hoof's spam-fest in #53. Damn, Hally hasn't said poop so far. She comes back in #223 with more Christmasy stuff. 3 posts in 3 days? That's pretty inexcusable since she's showing that she's still aware of the game and hasn't forgotten about it. If Peace/Turin end up cocky/lazy masons and not mafia, I'd turn attention here, especially the Hally/Theo/Hoof trio as they've been chummy for no apparent reason. 

 

11 - dansyc (mentored by Kaylee)

No posts yet.

 

12 - Nolder

Appears in #165, hella late. He goes after Cloud right away. Throws out some fluffy comments in #178 but I agree with what he says about Peace here. I'm noticing that he's grinding against Cloud and Leelou, two of my town reads so far, so I'll be curious to see how that develops. Grinding against Peace and Turin is good, I think. Is Nolder an inexperienced player? I like that he's questioning Peace's reasonings in #211 because Peace has been pretty bullpoopy so far. He points out how Peace defended Cloud defending me (lol) but I think he should be focusing on the Peace-Turin interactions more than Cloud. His "dragonmount can jump off a cliff" comment in #212 is a ping. Oh, and @Nolder, WF is WalterFootball forums. His behavior is hard to pin down in #243... he's got a mix of fluff, defense and attack here. I don't think going after Cloud is the right move now, and picking out one Peace post to say it looks good feels bad to me. He actually comments on Krak's "teaching" thing and self-consciously says he'll tone it back. That strikes me as weird interaction. 

 

13 - BlackHoof

Weak opening in #8 and #11. I'm not a fan of the cthulu jokey stuff. Post #51 just reeks of bullpoop trying-too-hard-to-be-harmless stuff. He outright ignores any attempts at discussing the game so far. He's still spammy in #85, but what pings me about this is his comment "normally you would be on the money" regarding him being scummy. Who the hell writes a comment like this? It's too self conscious. Votes Hallia right off the bat in D1 #92 for literally no reason. Really stupid. But what's stupider is how this reinforces the spam-party that Theo, Hoof, and Hally are having now. I'm finding it to be a little too... comfy. More spam in #102. The spam is pinging me harder now. 

 

Disappears until #281 and opens with suspicion on Cloud for back-flipping on his scum read on Elf... even though that argument took up a third of the thread and was very organic. This looks like a lousy excuse to keep suspicion on Cloud. Then in that same post, defends Elf by attacking Goldeneye's vote. Well, which is it? I haven't seen Hoof defend Elf before this, so it seems like a good way to put suspicion on just about everyone involved. As he continues to do when he FOS on Peace and then votes for him. So Hoof basically appears, put suspicion on everyone involved, and then leaves. Haha, wtf? 

 

And then when I make that post about low-posters being suspect... he reappears to defend himself and put suspicion on Dan. I *hate* that because Dan has zero posts, so he can't be anything but null at this point. Scum love to push mislynches onto inactives because they're easy targets. Big ping. Says one of Cloud or Peace are mafia... well no poop, you're voting for Peace? Why say "one of?" 

 

I'm starting to think there's a real good chance of a Theo/Hoof/Hally scumteam.

 

14 - Turin (advised by Pray)

#88 is his opening... to wish a merry christmas? Whatever. He's gone for a while and comes back in #169 asking why his opening looks busy and what that means. So we've got >150 posts and he only cares to defend himself in a pretty lousy way? Ping! Also refuses my attempt to start a wagon on Peace in #170. Good to keep in mind for later. He's self conscious and sassing me for lousy reasons (like Peace was) in #173... and then mentions how he's NOT defending Peace. Ping pong! 

 

Turin returns in #188 and is once again defensive and shows no interest in getting to the bottom of things. His first paragraph is about personal attacks and only defends himself and OMGUS's me without looking around the rest of the thread. Bad ping. I'm noticing Peace and Turin have yet to interact with each other. In #191 he posts about how he dislikes people who "teach" and links me to Nolder. It's hard to follow his logic in that post. He ends it by saying he'll be out for a while, which also pings me, as mafia likes to "appear" active without actually being active, and thus tends to check out. It matches his vibe of really only being defensive so far, and having defended Peace despite not having communicated with him at all. 

 

Updated tl;dr: Strong town leans on Leelou and Cloud, town lean on Elf; scum leans on Turin and the pile of Hoof/Hally/Theo. Nolder, Krak and Golden are in the gray zone but I'm not sure where they slot in with others yet. I'm feeling good about these interactions linking players together: getting one mafia flip should reveal a lot in this game due to this.

[Leelou]

 

##vote elffern

 

Because you've posted ad nauseum about why your opinion is bestest and right. I find you overly defensive, frenetic, I disagree with a substantial portion of your logic and you engage in endless whyme fryme. Even if the scum vibe I get from you is wrong, I don't find most of what you say to contribute to actual scumhunting, other than to FOS several people and then submit an OMGUS vote which you lyingly claim is based on gameplay. 

 

Ad nausem bit.  - This is a stretch.  Elfie may be tunneling me..but she sure isn't acting like her opinion is the best.  Many play that way here..but she isn't exhibiting these traits.

 

Logic bit - Doesn't bother explaining why her logic is wrong.  Just says it is.  Prove it.

 

Even if scum vibe is wrong -  Basically giving himself an out if he is somehow wrong and then giving a policy type reason for his vote - unhelpful town is worth killing type meaning.

 

Lyingly -  Is that a word.  Again, no evidence that she is lying.  She may feel exactly the way she is posting.  She may be wrong...but that doesn't mean she is lying. 

 

 

My biggest issue with Golden is that I played 1 game with him and he was very astute and succinct in that game.  Had great reasoning.  Great instincts.  Very good arguments.  He was town.   This post compared to that is a big pile of brown fiber.  His reasons lack substance. 

 

 

Ly´ing`ly

adv. 1. In a lying manner; falsely.

 

I'm just going through the thread now, but wanted to catch up on recent posts first. 

[Tommyrod]

 

##vote elffern

 

Because you've posted ad nauseum about why your opinion is bestest and right. I find you overly defensive, frenetic, I disagree with a substantial portion of your logic and you engage in endless whyme fryme. Even if the scum vibe I get from you is wrong, I don't find most of what you say to contribute to actual scumhunting, other than to FOS several people and then submit an OMGUS vote which you lyingly claim is based on gameplay. 

 

Ad nausem bit.  - This is a stretch.  Elfie may be tunneling me..but she sure isn't acting like her opinion is the best.  Many play that way here..but she isn't exhibiting these traits.

 

Logic bit - Doesn't bother explaining why her logic is wrong.  Just says it is.  Prove it.

 

Even if scum vibe is wrong -  Basically giving himself an out if he is somehow wrong and then giving a policy type reason for his vote - unhelpful town is worth killing type meaning.

 

Lyingly -  Is that a word.  Again, no evidence that she is lying.  She may feel exactly the way she is posting.  She may be wrong...but that doesn't mean she is lying. 

 

 

My biggest issue with Golden is that I played 1 game with him and he was very astute and succinct in that game.  Had great reasoning.  Great instincts.  Very good arguments.  He was town.   This post compared to that is a big pile of brown fiber.  His reasons lack substance. 

 

 

This could be useful info. I made a case for a player in a different game with this same reasoning... he was just far less interested in hunting than he was in a game where he was town. (He hasn't flipped yet but I think I'm right :P)

[peacesells]

 

Ok..but it's funny you call me attacking you when you fired the opening salvo insulting my play with absolutely no experience with me?   You may be correct..I may be a crappy player but you had no experience with me to make a judgement like that.  Nor any credibility or friendships established here to make such a comment socially acceptable. 

 

And then to take exception to me pointing it out...well...seems a bit absurd. 

 

I get reactions out of people. Your reaction was overly aggressive; I don't know why you'd be so insulted if I wasn't on to something :P

 

 

Your action was aggressive...why not expect the same in return?  So..are you saying you were laying a trap? 

 

You actually are accusing me of being a bit sensitive...when it looks like you are the one belaboring the point.  So, are you gonna stay on this topic as part of your case or are you going to actually scumhunt?

[peacesells]

Tommy...go back and edit your post.  This is a PG forum.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

Ok..but it's funny you call me attacking you when you fired the opening salvo insulting my play with absolutely no experience with me?   You may be correct..I may be a crappy player but you had no experience with me to make a judgement like that.  Nor any credibility or friendships established here to make such a comment socially acceptable. 

 

And then to take exception to me pointing it out...well...seems a bit absurd. 

 

I get reactions out of people. Your reaction was overly aggressive; I don't know why you'd be so insulted if I wasn't on to something :P

 

 

Your action was aggressive...why not expect the same in return?  So..are you saying you were laying a trap? 

 

You actually are accusing me of being a bit sensitive...when it looks like you are the one belaboring the point.  So, are you gonna stay on this topic as part of your case or are you going to actually scumhunt?

 

 

 

There's only room enough for one big ego in this game. 

[Tommyrod]

Tommy...go back and edit your post.  This is a PG forum.

What are you referring to 

[peacesells]

The S word and F words.  Remove them.

[Leelou]

 

Tommy...go back and edit your post.  This is a PG forum.

What are you referring to 

 

 

The F word isn't allowed on DM. 

[peacesells]

You can also have the big ego slot.  There are plenty of ego competitors around here...I'm not one of them.

[Tommyrod]

Yikes. I can't say I like the idea of a mafia game without swearing. That kind of defeats some of the point. 

[Tommyrod]

@Hoof, why did you said "one of Cloud and Peace" is mafia while you vote for Peace? Isn't that just leaving your options open for a mislynch if both of them are town?

Example: we lynch Peace, he's town, you say "welp, Cloud must be mafia then." Which is obviously bad because Cloud is strongly pro-town in this game.

[hazelkrs1]

Did someone say big ego?

 

 

Okay sorry, I'm leaving again

 

[Leelou]

Okay, just got through Turin's posts: 

 

He seems to be a stickler for the personal attacks thing and his vote on Tommy seems more as a vote for someone he wants to get out of the game he's not comfortable with. I don't feel his defense of his posts coming out very townlike, and he's made it pretty much personal and I'm taking it as whichever form of play he's not comfortable with shouldn't be allowed.

 

 

 

##vote elf

So someone said you start every game with "yo" which means you're aware of your own meta which means you're probably not a very adept player (no offense intended) since you have a gimmick to cover yourself. Why are you me-too-ing Cloud's vote without any prior commentary or justification? If anyone has the right to be second in line here, it's me. Pls explain

 

Top tip: anytime you feel the need to immediately say no offense intended, you are probably saying something offensive. I would count that as a D1 personal attack

 

.Hence ===>    (baguette)

 

are you the pot or the kettle?

 

 

And before this turns into my "defense" of Peace, I don't like any of the name calling that I see in some games... So can we just get back to wanting to kill each other in a civilised manner?

 

 

First of all re personal attacks. I personally do not like or tend to employ them. I do treat everything on thread as gameplay. My main point was that Tommy was being hypocritical as I believe saying someone is a poor player (i.e. you suck at mafia ) is a personal attack. to then get hurt about Peace calling him out on ego was a bit much to me. Like a nerve was struck or he was worried his ploy was failing(worse in game IMO). That he now is after me after I called him on it and am refuting his(or anyone's with the exception of BFG who is confirmed) right to lead the town at this time is anti-town in itself. 

 

As to what Nolder and Csarmi have said. Fair enough. *hands over 5 more imaginary points to BG*

 

Few thoughts.

I forgot 2+2 was a poker forum since I only play mafia there and nothing else

I don't think elf is particularly scummy in her defense, it seems like something I would write, so that's good

Commenting on someone's play style is not a personal attack, it's precisely game related. Getting snippy about my ego qualifies as personal though

Darthe is an asshole

I have to figure out who is grinding against me due to actual dislike for my grandeur or due to being scum

Re: the busy question... I've noticed that mafia tend to enter the thread after having read everything and town just jumps in

Turin's self-conscious "not a defense" of Peace is AIDS. The way peace responded to me seemed non-bullshitty so I could swing toward this being Turin as mafia defending a townie for cred, while also indicting another townie AND leaving the floor open to later lynching Peace because of the wording suggesting Turin thinks Peace could still be mafia. Win-win mafia play.

##Vote Turin

*** Elect Tom for mayor ***

That is all

I doubt that anyone on here would forget that this is a fantasy novel website. Even those that just have come in to play mafia usually at least poke fun about being amongst the "geeks"

 

Something that you wrote. Maybe you did...  

 

direct inrerence, but I see it as an unneeded attack and also gameplay.

 

Darthe is a lovable demented crazy man. Cloud may indeed be mafia tho.

 

Both??? The big facade is great for mafia to hide behind.

 

Why wouldn't town read the thread? That would just be lazy play. Townies should read the thread to look for slips/pings/oddities. But thank you for your clarification.

 

AIDS??? I am assuming this is a term for really bad on a site you play? but well done on taking it there. Of course I think that Peace could be mafia. I only know BFG's alignment aside from my own. 

 

well, if you want to be elected then you must be asking people to vote for you... I aim to please.                                      

 

 

        ##Tommy

 

 

 

I think that Tommy's entire act is just that. trying to lead the town down the primrose path. I have seen skilled players do it when Mafia and If you can get the sheep to follow it works very well. 

 

 

Stick to teaching the rest of your team on your QT for now please.  

 

 

And BTW, I think I said I've seen skilled players do it to great effect, not that you were doing that now. I further disagree that there is any one way to play mafia. So trying to imprint your playstyle on others is not in the best interests of the game itself. It may be in your own best interest as it makes it easier to play with others that play a similar style. You and nolder going  all "sole arbiter of play" here is pinging quite loudly to me. 

 

If you are not sane enough to realise where you are at any particular time then maybe you are not the best choice to follow. And it was more along the lines that you used Peace's comment about poker as a means to attempt to distract you when again you were the first to mention it. So maybe you shouldn't introduce things that you don't wish to talk about? 

 

From the mouths of babes appear some of the most universal truths...

 

Carry on. I shall be out for a bit

 

Turin really isn't scum hunting and has parked his vote. 

[Leelou]

Krak - poke your roommate. No posts is unacceptable. 

[Tommyrod]

@Leelou about Turin: yep, and there's something even more telling than that which he and a few players have done. I'll show you when the day is over; I don't want to tip them off as to what it is yet.

[Leelou]

As for Hallia - she has a tendency to not post game related stuff unless prodded. Hallia, please step it up. 

[csarmi]

Some people have informed me that they wouldn't be active around Christmas. Some people didn't. I'm giving everyone a break around Christmas. After that, however, I'm expecting activity to pick up.

 

I'm sending out a few nudges, but I'm feeling goodabout the game so far - decent game play in general.

[Nolder]

FYI my activity may be a little patchy from now through the weekend.

I'll make every effort to at least post once a day though.

[Nolder]

Some people have informed me that they wouldn't be active around Christmas. Some people didn't. I'm giving everyone a break around Christmas. After that, however, I'm expecting activity to pick up.

 

I'm sending out a few nudges, but I'm feeling goodabout the game so far - decent game play in general.

I was pleasantly surprised how many of us actually posted ON Christmas lol.