Ten days after Samhain, 1057: Night 5 (CONCLUDED)

[Yates]

So how do you show 600 posts at a time in a QT?

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/rtEAF543UTcf/p-1.600.0

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/rtEAF543UTcf/p-601.732.0

 

the p- suffix with the start page.end page.0

[Pralaya]

 

Hah, yeah I remember those "slips" from last game too

 

 

Vote Yates

Somebody's butt hurt over T2. 

 

Also, it's still night, brony.  Tug in those reigns a bit.  There's still night actions to resolve and sift through.  And what if I'm dead in the morning?  *Yates shakes head side to side*

 

 

 

Wakey, wakey. It is day already.

 

[Leelou]

Yeah, it's Day. 

[Yates]

LOL - I thought I was in T2...  

[Yates]

Alright.  Let me get back to seeing why Nolder and Ree were targets in here.

 

Or Imma take a break and get back to that later. 

[Yates]

*Is still disgruntled about not knowing which kill was SK/Vig and which was Mafia*

[bgrishinko]

I know all too well that you are willing to try and use site meta to explain away comments and actions like from Nolder's game. "What's a Symp??? We don't have those on MS." Then it turns out you are mafia and knew pretty early on what it was.

 

In this case "Knifes signify SK on MS, therefore it must be Nolder was the mafia kill." I think that was too quick of a reaction and that you KNOW that Nolder was a mafia kill. And now you are trying to backtrack and cover it up continually mentioning it as a reminder about how grumpy you are you don't know. Cause if you did know, that would be bad for you. If it wasn't for posts like this one, I might have believed your backtrack:

 

*Is still disgruntled about not knowing which kill was SK/Vig and which was Mafia*

 

 

I don't believe it.

 

Vote Yates

[Pralaya]

Somebody's butt hurt over T2. 

 

Also, it's still night, brony.  Tug in those reigns a bit.  There's still night actions to resolve and sift through.  And what if I'm dead in the morning?  *Yates shakes head side to side*

 

 

How can you think you were in T2 when you are referencing T2 IN THE POST???

[_CLOUD]

I also must have miraculously come back to life huh

[Leelou]

LOL - I thought I was in T2...  

 

That doesn't make any sense, Cloud, who voted you, is dead in T2 and wouldn't be able to post game content anymore in that thread. 

[bgrishinko]

 

Somebody's butt hurt over T2. 

 

Also, it's still night, brony.  Tug in those reigns a bit.  There's still night actions to resolve and sift through.  And what if I'm dead in the morning?  *Yates shakes head side to side*

 

 

How can you think you were in T2 when you are referencing T2 IN THE POST???

 

 

Lol.

[Yates]

LOL - I thought I was in T2...  

 

That doesn't make any sense, Cloud, who voted you, is dead in T2 and wouldn't be able to post game content anymore in that thread. 

Like I said.  I got confused which thread I was in.  This is a non-issue as it wouldn't make any more sense for Yates Town or Yates scum to screw up something like that.  Pretending it's scummy is lame.

[Yates]

Anyway... this is all I've got:
 
Mr_Ree was voting Cloud at end of D1 - and is now dead.  Only other person he showed suspicion on is Serra here.

Nolder spent most of this thread talking about the Salami lynch.  Dropped some soft suspicion on Ishy.

 

Neither one had very many posts so no smoking gun.  I'd be inclined to think Nolder was killed for meta reasons as he had hardly posted anything in here.

[Yates]

In this case "Knifes signify SK on MS, therefore it must be Nolder was the mafia kill."

From T-2, wise guy...

The deaths of Ishy and LeeLou both point to DMers. This is not to say Serra or Ree are in the clear as scum, but I would bet dollars to doughnuts neither are [what I'm assuming is] the SK.

[Yates]

In other words, this is a lazy scummy vote:

In this case "Knifes signify SK on MS, therefore it must be Nolder was the mafia kill." I think that was too quick of a reaction and that you KNOW that Nolder was a mafia kill. And now you are trying to backtrack and cover it up continually mentioning it as a reminder about how grumpy you are you don't know. Cause if you did know, that would be bad for you. If it wasn't for posts like this one, I might have believed your backtrack

 

 

Vote Yates

Looks like BG trying to hide behind what at first glance looks like a good excuse to vote but that doesn't stand up under scrutiny. Even Cloud [who is voting for me] at least didn't use that as an excuse.

[Yates]

At first I didn't like the first part of his post and how he knew that Ree was killed by an SK, but his and Serra's later explanation that a knife means there is a SK on MS makes sense.

 

However, the rest of his post is scummy as hell. How does Ree's death point away from Serra and why would someone use this as a frame job on you? I think it's far more likely that you have killed Ree because you two know each other from MS and he could use your meta against you.

In T-2, I called the two night deaths as pointing at DMers and received the same response. As it turns out, the Vig kill was from Des. This kill didn't come in until well after the response in T-2. The fact it came in after and that it was on Mr_Ree - who had like 3 posts in this thread - made me think the two events were related [hence the frame up]. Go back and look at Mr_Ree yourself [he only has 18 posts on site]. This was a gut read and pinged as way too convenient.

 

I didn't realize this at the time, but the only person he showed any suspicion on was Serra. So in retrospect I must concede that I may have been a bit quick to pull the trigger on that theory in here.

[bgrishinko]

 

In this case "Knifes signify SK on MS, therefore it must be Nolder was the mafia kill."

From T-2, wise guy...

The deaths of Ishy and LeeLou both point to DMers. This is not to say Serra or Ree are in the clear as scum, but I would bet dollars to doughnuts neither are [what I'm assuming is] the SK.

 

 

I don't understand what the T-2 quote here has anything to do with the current discussion.

[Yates]

I don't understand what the T-2 quote here has anything to do with the current discussion.

You don't understand why the fact I jumped to the conclusion we had an SK in both threads with double kills is pertinent?

[bgrishinko]

There was plenty good reason to think that Despo was a SK OR Vig in T2. You even mentioned yourself you weren't sure. Heck, this game, it could still be a SK. We don't know they are set up the same.

 

My point is you immediately pointed out Nolder as the mafia kill using the "Knife" meta. That would have been fine except you lingered a bit too long on it to make sure it sunk in how sad you were you didn't know which death belonged to who to make it VERY clear you didn't know, re-pointing it out after it was established the knife meant nothing. I think you were covering your butt a little too much. Like I said, if you hadn't returned to it, it probably wouldn't have been suspicious to me.

[Yates]

That would have been fine except you lingered a bit too long on it to make sure it sunk in how sad you were you didn't know which death belonged to who to make it VERY clear you didn't know, re-pointing it out after it was established the knife meant nothing.

That's weak. I had both mods come in and verify as a "pile on." Incidentally, Darthe did it to tweak me because he knows MS does it that way. A joke back about how they are doing it wrong is a joke.

[hazelkrs1]

I do see the case on Yates. Atm I have other things in my mind however.

 

Vote Cloud

 

I've got two theories to prove/disprove here. The one that I highly doubt but might as well make sure of is whether or not someone is scum in more than one thread. Helps that Cloud also looked uberacummy to me in this game as well. The other is the names thing, I'd like to compare Cloud's name to his scum alter ego and see if that's significant.

 

Speaking of, one of the other parts of my theory is looking even better now, with two vanillas killed. Could just be that T2 is really unlucky, but I doubt that.

[bgrishinko]

 

That would have been fine except you lingered a bit too long on it to make sure it sunk in how sad you were you didn't know which death belonged to who to make it VERY clear you didn't know, re-pointing it out after it was established the knife meant nothing.

That's weak. I had both mods come in and verify as a "pile on." Incidentally, Darthe did it to tweak me because he knows MS does it that way. A joke back about how they are doing it wrong is a joke.

 

Oh shush. Your banter with the mods about it ended at post #454 at which point normal play resumed, then you randomly bring it up again at #481. That's what I'm talking about.

[Leelou]

Not to be a pain, but can you link the posts instead of just putting the number? 

[_CLOUD]

I do see the case on Yates. Atm I have other things in my mind however.

 

Vote Cloud

 

I've got two theories to prove/disprove here. The one that I highly doubt but might as well make sure of is whether or not someone is scum in more than one thread. Helps that Cloud also looked uberacummy to me in this game as well. The other is the names thing, I'd like to compare Cloud's name to his scum alter ego and see if that's significant.

 

Speaking of, one of the other parts of my theory is looking even better now, with two vanillas killed. Could just be that T2 is really unlucky, but I doubt that.

 

I'm sorry to dissappoint you Despo but I'm not going to be your test subject this game... I have already given my names in T3.

 

Can you explain in a couple of sentences what you have found scummy about me?

[bgrishinko]

@Leelou, the quotes themselves weren't as important. Just the fact that we stopped talking about it. Point was made, then he revisited. But I'll quote the exchange here for ya:

 

 

To be more specific, the manner of death is purely aesthetic, not game related.

 

So you're saying that there will not be a consistency across kills that will allow us to differentiate between mafia and 3rd party kills?

 

That's what he's saying, yes.

More specifically, he is saying that hints are inconsistent to keep them from affecting the balance for any schmuck that figures them out

 

That's what he's saying, yes.

Well that is the sucks.  Standard play on MS is to have consistent kill flavor.  It provides WAY more information.

 

 

 

That's what he's saying, yes.

Well that is the sucks. Standard play on MS is to have consistent kill flavor. It provides WAY more information.

I'm sure your SKs love this.

 

 

 

 

That's what he's saying, yes.

Well that is the sucks. Standard play on MS is to have consistent kill flavor. It provides WAY more information.

I'm sure your SKs love this.

Our vig's do.  They can verify which kill is theirs.  Whatever.  At least I know now.

 

 

 

 

Done. Talk about it with Mods is over at this point. A few hours later and 20+ posts later he randomly brings it back up for no reason:

 

*Is still disgruntled about not knowing which kill was SK/Vig and which was Mafia*

 

 

Then he tries to write it off by saying its Mod banter:

 

 

That would have been fine except you lingered a bit too long on it to make sure it sunk in how sad you were you didn't know which death belonged to who to make it VERY clear you didn't know, re-pointing it out after it was established the knife meant nothing.

That's weak. I had both mods come in and verify as a "pile on." Incidentally, Darthe did it to tweak me because he knows MS does it that way. A joke back about how they are doing it wrong is a joke.

 

 

I could understand this argument if it was back around the earlier posts when he was still talking to the Mods, but that ended a while ago. So now it is just him re-bringing it up for no real reason. I found it suspicious.