ATTEN MoN and Heads - Interdivision RP Idea

[Kathleen]

I received a PM from the new Warder's RGL today including the following idea:

 

One idea I had, I was going to implement a Gauntlet for our trainees and Guards to go through as part of their training regimen. However, I was chuckling at myself thinking about Accepteds and Aes Sedai standing by the Gauntlet, doing their own channeling exercises with Air, Water, a bit of Fire, to distract our trainees and Guards.

 

All harmless, of course, maybe it could be looked at as a "speed" exercise to channel quickly under duress?

 

 

 

Now, to start, I wanna say I really like this idea. I think it would be fantastic to do it. I like the idea of the Warders and AS working together and getting more time together IC and OOC. We all live in the same grounds and we bond each other, so the more chances for people to interact from the  members of the other group the better I believe.

 

It could be good if Accepted do it since they have AS there to monitor them and it would be good practice with learning to control their hold on Saidar under stress, in a controlled environment. AS could come voluntarily for it (or perhaps the greens would all be voluntold into it) but that would be up to you guys and your members. 

 

So, what are your thoughts in general or specifics (like who should do it and what weaves are allowed and which aren't) or if you don't think this rp should be done at all and why. 

 

I've told the Warders RGL I've brought this to you, so they know we're discussing but I don't want to leave them hanging too long on a yes or no to doing this. If we do this it doesn't have to be right now, but I wanna know general concensous soon so I can let the Warders know if this is gonna happen or not.

[U4ea]

I think it would be a fun one to do (sport of like the hundred weaves test for Aes Sedai). I wouldn't make it a requirement due to how small the Warders group is, but it would be good character development!

[Kathleen]

I'd like to hear more thoughts on this. Especially those of the MoN, as I'd like to know if we wish to have the Accepted involved and to what extent. 

 

Do we want a small list of Weaves we know the Accepted can do so that they won't accidently hurt anyone? Do want them to practice the 100 weaves in this time or would that be inapproapiate for the Accepted to do in front of the AS? 

 

Do we want the AS to do the 100 weaves as a way of showing the Accepted while the Accpted do simple novice weaves?

 

Do we want the AS to do whatever non harmful weaves they can think of while the Accepted go through cycles of approved weaves?

 

OR do we want a free for all of any weaves?

 

I'll give till This Friday, March 22nd to hear any reasons for why we shouldn't this. If I get none by that date I will give the go ahead to the Warder's RGL and we will set this up and start talking about when to do it. So we'll need to have the rest of the rules for our members figured out ASAP too.

[Rasheta Ardashir]

I'll poke people!

[Leala]

Do we want a small list of Weaves we know the Accepted can do so that they won't accidently hurt anyone?

 

Bright flashes, pinches, slaps with Air should do.  Kind of like what they do for practicing, in the case of sending the Warder recruits through the gauntlet.  As for their own gauntlet, I would suggest a list of complicated by harmless weaves that they should know already.

 

Do want them to practice the 100 weaves in this time or would that be inapproapiate for the Accepted to do in front of the AS? 

 

In general, it is forbidden for Aes Sedai to help Accepted with the test to become Aes Sedai, because they know what happens.  so, no 100 weaves, since that would be considered cheating.  Elaida did that with Moiraine and Siuan at risk of serious punishment, even though she did it the "wrong" way, like all Accepted do.  So, no on that.

 

Do we want the AS to do the 100 weaves as a way of showing the Accepted while the Accpted do simple novice weaves?

 

Even without the gauntlet, the Accepted begin to memorize the 100 weaves as soon as they start their studies as Accepted.  Nynaeve was an exception, because she spent a lot of time working on the rules while an Accepted.  Elayne and Egwene were exceptions too, but it was stated that Accepted started memorizing and working with them as soon as possible.  

 

I'd say give them complicated weaves, but not weaves that could be harmful.  Maybe different kinds of wards, Healing weaves that dissipate, Voice of Power, that kind of thing.  Weaves that make them think, but won't hurt anyone if they go wrong.

 

Do we want the AS to do whatever non harmful weaves they can think of while the Accepted go through cycles of approved weaves?

 

Yes, but I think it would be a good strategy if they start out with a pattern first, but then surprise them with something new every now and then, so that they keep their guard up.

 

OR do we want a free for all of any weaves?

 

Accepted can go in for Healing later, and they tend to exhaust themselves during their practices, so I say be creative, but the MoN would be very put out if any of her wards were seriously injured.

 

On another note...I was told to mention that we might want to make a new thread in the Welcome Inn to iron things out with the Warders.  :)

 

Also, if Accepted are to be included, we might want to wait until we have more than just the one I'm playing.  >.>

[Kathleen]

Apparently this idea was not for a 'one time' thing. They intended it to be available any time. Thinking that a Trainie could approach an AS or Accepted and have them train together in this fashion in the training yards any time.

 

So revaluating this, what are thoughts?

[Leala]

I think that's an awesome way to break the ice between Warder trainees and Accepted!  :)  It's always been awkward for me to approach the Warders when I get a new sister raised.

 

Although, I tried to answer for both cases.  Basically, no 100 weaves.  At all.  And any weaves to distract Warder trainees should be loud claps, slaps, pinches, small things.  Accepted should act as though they are already under the Three Oaths.  And though this is a training exercise, and we're in the Tower, we don't want severely injured Warders.  >.>

[Kathleen]

Do you think Accepted would really have time in their day to do this? Aren't they supposed to be working to the wee hours of the morning studying and learning? Sure they can argue they are practicing OP, but it would be hard to prove its the best way to do it. 

 

And what are our current rules about interaction of Accepted with boys? I know its strictly avoided in the books, is it so here? Should it be, or should we be looser?

[Leala]

Loophole time!

 

Accepted are like grad students, because they basically direct their own studies when they're not with personal teachers.  So, when they're not teaching or being taught, it's basically up to them what they do with their time.  And from what I remember in the books, even though Accepted usually have a good handle on which Ajah they will be joining, it's kind of assumed that they'll bond a Warder eventually, since most Ajahs allow for it anyway.  (Like Pevara having seen the Warder bond weave during her time as an Accepted.)  So, I can see a hypothetical mentor of an Accepted encouraging them to go through this exercise to get to know the Warder trainees.

 

According to the site, an Accepted has to have permission from the MoN and the leader of the Warders Div to go to the Yards.  I tried to follow up on this when my Greenie was an Accepted, but it seems the policy has changed, since apparently arrangements like that "didn't happen in the books"...but I honestly think they did.  There were instances mentioned of novices finding boyfriends in the Yards and accidentally ending up with a family.  It probably wasn't encouraged, but I know Accepted and novices did eventually find their way there. 

[U4ea]

I got in a lot of trouble for bring around the boys without permission when I was accepted. Hehehe

 

 

My only concern her would be ages and times, but I know we're all fuzzy with those. Lor meet Kyn while he was a trainee in the Yard and she was Accepted. By main timeline standards, he should be long dead. I like ignoring that part...

[Leala]

Yay for retro!!