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hazelkrs1 Spam Master

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Hmmmm... all that and the mafia team didn't get a NK in?

 

J'king, I doubt that was the case lol. Not gonna guess why we had no deaths for now tho, but someone refresh my memory for me, didn't we already have a night with no deaths in this game? Or was that another game I'm mixing it up with?

 

Oh and vote Nightstrike. Darthe is pretty high on my list as well, but Nightstrike was pinging me hardcore yesterday. Pretty sure he's scum. Assuming he DOES flip scum, it might help us even moar considering what he was putting in his recent posts.

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Yesterday? I was going back to see if I could see how people had voted, and maybe try to figure out why people did as they did. I thought I saw 3 who were likely to be townies, but I don't know .... I was just trying to contribute something. Maybe I didn't, but at least I tried ...

AndrewLee Community Regular

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Well, I'm definitely not mafia, which means you are.

 

*Checks if his vote is on David*

 

Ping Number One: He immediately dismisses it and attempts to be funny.

 

Let's start the next discussion: why did David choose these four names to be "revealed"?

Arez, why haven't you voted for him?

Arez, why haven't you voted for him?

 

I'm not as... Trigger happy.. as some of you are. Really? He basically admitted that he was scum and ratted out his scummy mates in the same post, do you not find that weird?!!?

 

Yes, it's weird. Probably the strangest reveal ever. But he's a newbie, so he should get another chance. In another game.

 

This makes the question why he chose those names. all the more interesting.

Despo who is Mr. Pennybags, and his 4 railroad barons Thorum, Dicetosser1, Darthe and Bgrishinko

 

So, Arez, why do you NOT want David lynched? Suppose he's not lying?

I think that's so far the most interesting fact from David's reveal (apart from us having nailed someone who's at least got an adverse role): Arez has a reason to not want David lynched.

 

And then there's all these. He very noticeably ignores the list, and tries his best to get everyone ELSE to ignore the list as well, right off the bat, while throwing as much suspicion on Arez as possible. Not that Arez made it hard, but the list shouldn't have just been dismissed as Thorum did it here. Everyone else seems to be giving it serious thought, but not Throum, and he'd like everyone else to ignore it at well.

 

It all just smells bad. So...

 

VOTE THORUM

hazelkrs1 Spam Master

hazelkrs1

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Without directly quoting my role PM, let me clarify as much as I can. My PM says neither the word "masons" nor "neighbors". It lists the name of the property I own, and refers to the name of the property that is adjacent to mine. Its owner is my "buddy" and the PM states we have always been sure of one anothers' intentions and alignments. It gives the information about the meeting we have been invited to, and then states that I and the other individual both win with town.

 

We initially assumed we were masons, and the QT was a mason QT, but when Len showed up, I re-read my PM and realized the QT link was an invitation to a meeting behind closed doors. I don't know what technical mafia role one would use to refer to myself and the other person in question, but there it is.

Meeting behind closed doors. That doesn't sound like it could be good for town. I wonder about the survivor claim ... I am suspecting Lenlo of being something other than town, and since this is an advanced game I suppose there might be more than one "not town" group. Vote Lenlo .

Def the biggest ping out of the Lenlo bandwagon voters, as he feels the need to be cryptic about his vote ("I am suspecting Lenlo of being something other than town" - uhm yeah, he had already claimed third party at that point lawls :laugh:)
I didn't feel a need to be cryptic. I think I might have misunderstood the alignment of this survivor, that's all. I also thought he might not even have been what he claimed, but it seems he was a survivor after all.

 

Here's why I initially had fos'd him for the strange wording of his post where he voted for Lenlo (the "I am suspecting Lenlo of being something other than town" thing after Lenlo had already claimed third party), and his defense. Just didn't cut it for me, vurry weak defense of his vote.

 

I thought symp meant that he was symp to town, and had infiltrated the mafia team somehow, and that he voted himself so we could verify his claim. I can't find symps listed in the thread linked in the mafia forum, do they have other names? I've never heard the term "symp" before.

 

Moar confusion-inducing posts from him. Seems like he's trying to play up the "mafia newb" card a bit too much. I get the feeling we're dealing with an inexperienced mafia team here (oh and it WAS this game that we already had a night with no deaths in, that should tell you something), so Nightstrike voted for David to try and bus a teammate, but was also trying to make it seem like David was a mafia traitor instead of a symp. And Nightstrike believed David voted himself so we could vet his claim? Seems fishy to me.

 

Cool, no deaths. This just makes the game more interesting.

 

Actually, David was already pinging me, and honestly this looks like he's trying to make the obligatory "yay, no deaths" post, yet he doesn't offer any speculation whatsoever why it might have happened. Kinda seems like a terse tone too, mebbe his team aint so happy their kill didn't go through.

 

Vote David

 

I still wanna hear from Nightstrike and BG

 

Oh and since we had zero deaths, it just kinda supports the theory of us having a vig even moar, since I doubt a SK would have holstered. Once again tho, they could have just missed the deadline.

I don't think Despo is scum, since he didn't have to say this that soon after David said his part.

 

Here he's trying to link himself with a townie (since I know I'm one, and I feel my actions have helped support this throughout the game).

 

Incidentally, I know I saw him do this in another post, where he defended Lessa and Dice in the same fashion, but I couldn't find it just now when quote-hunting. I just don't think it's necessary at this point to point out those you have town reads on, since it's still too early and the reasons he's listing are too weak. I could have had a gambit with David, or David could have had one with Lessa or Dice. Trying to clear these people at this point on such weak reasoning only hurts town.

 

 

Sorry I haven't posted in a while. A bubble of evil destroyed our tent.

 

Anywho, I'm now all caught up.

 

 

 

Despora, what's the point at this point in the game to vote for anyone, EP or anyone for that matter? My reasoning is that Nolder has yet to post the deadline for day 1. So for a lynch to happen at this point a lot of people will have to unvote on the No lynch and vote someone they found suspicious. Which will take a while. I would be surprised if this day ended without the majority on the No lynch wagon. Then even if No lynch gets the majority we will then have to vote again for which card we want (community, chance or neither). It's alright to post your suspicions and thoughts but isn't it a waste of time to vote for a player at this point?

David is pinged me first back in day one when Despo was talking about putting a little pressure on other players before the no lynch was finalized to get some info. Why would you question wanting to get info unless you're scum and you don't want pressure put on you or your teammates? It's never a waste of time to vote a player and get info from them. Next, when Wombat explained the jailor role because someone asked what it could do, David assumed it was a reveal only to explain later on he miss read. Yeah misreading happens, however, when morning comes Wombat has been nked along with EP. Then, when players are voting Lenlo, David votes Dice for not believing EP was vanilla townie.

 

 

Lenlo pinged me recently with the survivor reveal and Tress' info. The comment of "how is that lucky?" to Dice pings. Personally, I think it's better that town power roles are safe than to have them gone. Yeah it's sucks that we lost two townies but it's the lesser of two evils.

 

So, in conclusion Vote David

Lessa Nikia is probably a townie. David voted dice, so I think maybe dice is a townie too.

 

 

Nvm, I went back again and found the quote

 

OK, time for a full reveal. I'm Luke the symp. I know who the mafia are. And I could tell you who they are.

They are: Despo who is Mr. Pennybags, and his 4 railroad barons Thorum, Dicetosser1, Darthe and Bgrishinko.

 

Vote David.

Could it be that none of those are scum? It'll be hard to ignore the list now when we've seen it.

 

Here was one of the biggest pings to me. Even tho it's possible that David didn't list any teammates on the list, it's still scummy for Nightstrike to put this out there, when most people were saying we should just ignore the list either way. I suspect that either Dice or Darthe is scum, and Nightstrike was trying to keep us from fos'ing them by "clearing" them in this way.

 

After I saw Nightstrike using some weak logic to start defending players as town, I asked him to give his thoughts on everyone.

 

Nightstrike, since you've already got kind of a headstart, you mind giving a brief summary of your thoughts on everyone still in the game?

What headstart? Those was just the ideas I got from the couple of things I quoted. I don't have any particular scum reading on anyone right now.

 

Seems a little defensive, considering I was only asking that he continue giving his thoughts, but on all players. Add to that that he has NO scum reads on anyone at this point in the game, and I really can't trust him much at all at this point.

 

I'd be fine with either a Nightstrike, Dice, or Darthe lynch today. In that order.

hazelkrs1 Spam Master

hazelkrs1

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Without directly quoting my role PM, let me clarify as much as I can. My PM says neither the word "masons" nor "neighbors". It lists the name of the property I own, and refers to the name of the property that is adjacent to mine. Its owner is my "buddy" and the PM states we have always been sure of one anothers' intentions and alignments. It gives the information about the meeting we have been invited to, and then states that I and the other individual both win with town.

 

We initially assumed we were masons, and the QT was a mason QT, but when Len showed up, I re-read my PM and realized the QT link was an invitation to a meeting behind closed doors. I don't know what technical mafia role one would use to refer to myself and the other person in question, but there it is.

Meeting behind closed doors. That doesn't sound like it could be good for town. I wonder about the survivor claim ... I am suspecting Lenlo of being something other than town, and since this is an advanced game I suppose there might be more than one "not town" group. Vote Lenlo .

Def the biggest ping out of the Lenlo bandwagon voters, as he feels the need to be cryptic about his vote ("I am suspecting Lenlo of being something other than town" - uhm yeah, he had already claimed third party at that point lawls :laugh:)
I didn't feel a need to be cryptic. I think I might have misunderstood the alignment of this survivor, that's all. I also thought he might not even have been what he claimed, but it seems he was a survivor after all.

 

Here's why I initially had fos'd him for the strange wording of his post where he voted for Lenlo (the "I am suspecting Lenlo of being something other than town" thing after Lenlo had already claimed third party), and his defense. Just didn't cut it for me, vurry weak defense of his vote.

 

I thought symp meant that he was symp to town, and had infiltrated the mafia team somehow, and that he voted himself so we could verify his claim. I can't find symps listed in the thread linked in the mafia forum, do they have other names? I've never heard the term "symp" before.

 

Moar confusion-inducing posts from him. Seems like he's trying to play up the "mafia newb" card a bit too much. I get the feeling we're dealing with an inexperienced mafia team here (oh and it WAS this game that we already had a night with no deaths in, that should tell you something), so Nightstrike voted for David to try and bus a teammate, but was also trying to make it seem like David was a mafia traitor instead of a symp. And Nightstrike believed David voted himself so we could vet his claim? Seems fishy to me.

 

Cool, no deaths. This just makes the game more interesting.

 

Actually, David was already pinging me, and honestly this looks like he's trying to make the obligatory "yay, no deaths" post, yet he doesn't offer any speculation whatsoever why it might have happened. Kinda seems like a terse tone too, mebbe his team aint so happy their kill didn't go through.

 

Vote David

 

I still wanna hear from Nightstrike and BG

 

Oh and since we had zero deaths, it just kinda supports the theory of us having a vig even moar, since I doubt a SK would have holstered. Once again tho, they could have just missed the deadline.

I don't think Despo is scum, since he didn't have to say this that soon after David said his part.

 

Here he's trying to link himself with a townie (since I know I'm one, and I feel my actions have helped support this throughout the game).

 

Incidentally, I know I saw him do this in another post, where he defended Lessa and Dice in the same fashion, but I couldn't find it just now when quote-hunting. I just don't think it's necessary at this point to point out those you have town reads on, since it's still too early and the reasons he's listing are too weak. I could have had a gambit with David, or David could have had one with Lessa or Dice. Trying to clear these people at this point on such weak reasoning only hurts town.

 

 

Sorry I haven't posted in a while. A bubble of evil destroyed our tent.

 

Anywho, I'm now all caught up.

 

 

 

Despora, what's the point at this point in the game to vote for anyone, EP or anyone for that matter? My reasoning is that Nolder has yet to post the deadline for day 1. So for a lynch to happen at this point a lot of people will have to unvote on the No lynch and vote someone they found suspicious. Which will take a while. I would be surprised if this day ended without the majority on the No lynch wagon. Then even if No lynch gets the majority we will then have to vote again for which card we want (community, chance or neither). It's alright to post your suspicions and thoughts but isn't it a waste of time to vote for a player at this point?

David is pinged me first back in day one when Despo was talking about putting a little pressure on other players before the no lynch was finalized to get some info. Why would you question wanting to get info unless you're scum and you don't want pressure put on you or your teammates? It's never a waste of time to vote a player and get info from them. Next, when Wombat explained the jailor role because someone asked what it could do, David assumed it was a reveal only to explain later on he miss read. Yeah misreading happens, however, when morning comes Wombat has been nked along with EP. Then, when players are voting Lenlo, David votes Dice for not believing EP was vanilla townie.

 

 

Lenlo pinged me recently with the survivor reveal and Tress' info. The comment of "how is that lucky?" to Dice pings. Personally, I think it's better that town power roles are safe than to have them gone. Yeah it's sucks that we lost two townies but it's the lesser of two evils.

 

So, in conclusion Vote David

Lessa Nikia is probably a townie. David voted dice, so I think maybe dice is a townie too.

 

 

Nvm, I went back again and found the quote

 

 

OK, time for a full reveal. I'm Luke the symp. I know who the mafia are. And I could tell you who they are.

They are: Despo who is Mr. Pennybags, and his 4 railroad barons Thorum, Dicetosser1, Darthe and Bgrishinko.

 

Vote David.

Could it be that none of those are scum? It'll be hard to ignore the list now when we've seen it.

 

Here was one of the biggest pings to me. Even tho it's possible that David didn't list any teammates on the list, it's still scummy for Nightstrike to put this out there, when most people were saying we should just ignore the list either way. I suspect that either Dice or Darthe is scum, and Nightstrike was trying to keep us from fos'ing them by "clearing" them in this way.

 

After I saw Nightstrike using some weak logic to start defending players as town, I asked him to give his thoughts on everyone.

 

Nightstrike, since you've already got kind of a headstart, you mind giving a brief summary of your thoughts on everyone still in the game?

What headstart? Those was just the ideas I got from the couple of things I quoted. I don't have any particular scum reading on anyone right now.

 

Seems a little defensive, considering I was only asking that he continue giving his thoughts, but on all players. Add to that that he has NO scum reads on anyone at this point in the game, and I really can't trust him much at all at this point.

 

I'd be fine with either a Nightstrike, Dice, or Darthe lynch today. In that order.

hazelkrs1 Spam Master

hazelkrs1

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Man, my bad about the double post. DM was acting fuzzy for a second.

 

Andrew, you make some pretty good points about Thorum, and he had already been in the back of my head this game. I could go along with a lynch on him as well, I suppose, if that picks up steam.

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alannalynn

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Welcome, Lanthy.

 

Shoot, that's a lot of words in one page, need a sec to read up/note take.

 

Also, where's the best place to work rant without finding the need to go kill my boss? I worked 5 hours with her today and my brain is flashing *murder*

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Nightstrike

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Def the biggest ping out of the Lenlo bandwagon voters, as he feels the need to be cryptic about his vote ("I am suspecting Lenlo of being something other than town" - uhm yeah, he had already claimed third party at that point lawls :laugh:)
I didn't feel a need to be cryptic. I think I might have misunderstood the alignment of this survivor, that's all. I also thought he might not even have been what he claimed, but it seems he was a survivor after all.

 

Here's why I initially had fos'd him for the strange wording of his post where he voted for Lenlo (the "I am suspecting Lenlo of being something other than town" thing after Lenlo had already claimed third party), and his defense. Just didn't cut it for me, vurry weak defense of his vote.

I told you I was mistaken about the alignments, and I was. I also said it was my suspicion that he didn't even tell the truth about being "survivor". I am sorry you interpret my lack of mafia know-how that way, but I can't add anything else.

 

 

 

Here he's trying to link himself with a townie (since I know I'm one, and I feel my actions have helped support this throughout the game).
I was trying to do something useful, so I don't know why my success should be viewed that way. If I'd done a bad job, then it should have looked worse for me, in my opinion.
hazelkrs1 Spam Master

hazelkrs1

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It just looks like you were trying to make yourself appear more townie by saying I was town, when I think my actions and behavior this game have made that pretty evident.

 

The point here is to try and catch scum, not clear people as town when they have not been vetted yet.

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Nightstrike

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Players

10. dicetosser1

17. Despothera

18. Lessa Nikia Lanthirrhos

Those were the ones that I thought probably were townies, based off the things I quoted. It was mentioned in Lessa Nikia's post that dicetosser voted Andrew before the time it was a train on him. I thought dice probably was a townie because of that. Although I suppose there could be more "not town" alignments, or a mafia member could vote another, so I suppose I might be mistaken. Noone seemed to object much when I posted it.

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alannalynn

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WOW. I wake up to this? Y'all had me going for a minute there. . .

 

I say we disregard the list entirely, because it presents too much wifom to make anything of it. If we say that there's got to be at least a baddie on that list, then we'll end up lynching all the town on it before we get to the mafia. On the other hand, and disregarding the list, Darthe is pinging like crazy.

 

Also, and I don't know who said it, but someone implied that the list would have different meaning if he were symp versus the goon that he was? What do you mean by that? EIther way he's mafia, to me.

 

This post.... but from my mouth. :rolleyes:

BG: Get out of my mouth.

 

Nightstrike, since you've already got kind of a headstart, you mind giving a brief summary of your thoughts on everyone still in the game?

What headstart? Those was just the ideas I got from the couple of things I quoted. I don't have any particular scum reading on anyone right now.

Night: This pings: how could you say this after stating that there's no way Despo, Lessa/Lanth, or Dice are scum. You gotta give us more than that, honey.

 

And I see that Des got ahead of me on the subject of Night, so I'll leave it at that, I'm okay with a Night lynch for today.

 

Seeing Lanth bring up the meeting makes me wonder a little bit about it: so, we have a survivor (Lenny) and two townies that know each others alignments? I may have missed where Tress was talking about what her PM led her to believe with the meeting (it's not in my notes b/c I got lazy at some point), but I don't get how one survivor and two townies constitutes a town meeting.

 

Also, I'm sus about the lack of NKs, which we haven't had for two consecutive nights: either our docs/rbs are doing their job or we have an inactive mafia. The suspicions part referring to the latter possibility, and that is our quieter persons.

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