Monopoly Mafia [GAME OVER]

Gabriel Kross · July 19, 2012

vote no lynch

Gabriel Kross · July 19, 2012

BAHAHAHA YOU GOT GOT WOMBY!

Nolder · July 19, 2012

Votecount

No Lynch - Rand, David, Nightstrike, BG, Basel, Blackhoof, Lenlo, Thorum, Arez, Wombat, EP (11)

Peace - Andrew (1)

EP - Des (1)

Des - Razen (1)

Not Voting: Peacesells, Darthe, alannalynn, dicetosser1, Songstress, Lessa Nikia, Wombat (7)

With 20 Alive it takes 11 to Lynch.

Deadline is Sunday at 8:00 PM PST

hazelkrs1 · July 19, 2012

Awh man....

Whatevs I'm still posting my thoughts. Screw yall and you're ending day 1 so early

Thoughts on Arez:

I wish I could policy lynch without feeling like scum.. Because right now, I want to prove to EP that faking an meltdown is not going to scare me away.. Infact, faking a meltdown when you have ONE vote smells veeery fishy.

This is my oppinion on the whole No Lynch matter.

If we want to try it, Day 1 is the way to go, I'm not willing to risk it later in game, even if we manage to nail scum at the end of day 1.

Blech Arez it really feels like you TRY to come off as scummy or something when you post. Firstly, policy lynching doesn't make you scum. Some might call you some bad words if you try policy lynching for something minor, but it still doesn't make you mafia. I also don't like how you go from (in two sentences) saying that you want to withold your vote from him cause you'd feel scummy, to laying groundwork for you to vote for him later on.

As for the second paragraph, we'll cover this part later.

Herp derp xD Glad you could make it ;)

I totally missed the part where Wombat said me and Tress blipped his scumdar, I remember reading the whole "75% or worse" thing. Anyway, as someone suggested earlier, I'll unvote so we can get a little scumhunting done before we decide to go for either a lynch or a no-lynch

You mean even when you're scummy skimming you don't even notice your name being on other people's scumdar?

That's... pretty strange, even for you Arez

I'd like to point out it's unlogical and strange, than it's probably not what you try to make it out to be (and I'm tired of the expression scummy skimming..)

If I'd be a scummy skimmer.. Why the heck would I mention that I Missed Wombat's Blip?

I also don't like how easily you cave into other's demands by unvoting here. Makes it look like you were just trying to hide a vote in the "no lynch" train, but would be happy to lynch a townie as well

I'm afraid that I don't agree with your assessment of my "playstyle". When something is logical, I tend to have an easier time to change my oppinion. When something doesn't make any sense to me, I get very stubborn.

(his responses are in blue)

1st part: :huh:

2nd part: :wacko:

Tbh, I don't really think you're scum this game, but MAN your posts come off reeking as scummy! Anyways, mentioning that you missed Wombat's blip could have been a slip, saying you wouldn't do something as scum is a weak defense. Your other response... not really sure what to make of it. I didn't call you out for your playstyle by saying you were caving too easily, I was talking about the example I brought up in this game alone. And some scum like to go with the flow of the town, so your backing down so quickly pings

This is my oppinion on the whole No Lynch matter.

If we want to try it, Day 1 is the way to go, I'm not willing to risk it later in game, even if we manage to nail scum at the end of day 1.

Why wouldn't a No Lynch still be valid D2 if we bagged a scum D1 and were a step ahead?

Obviously it would be better to get a No Lynch D2 if you managed to get a scum killed D1. But imo, it's still not good because the scum will probably have killed one of us aswell.

And I feel that if we vote for a no lynch D1, it would only be like an extension of D1 up until D2 (except for possible cop views and other similar things).

But if we vote no lynch D2, it feels like we would disrupt the game's "speed" and stall, losing trails and so on. But hey, it's just how I feel. It can really go anyway haha xP.

We might aswell get a scum kill D1, block any potential night kill N1 and get a super good card D2.

But to sum up, I'd rather go for a D1 no lynch than a D2 no lynch.

Once again Arez, you back down from your stance crazy quick. First you say you would not be willing to risk a no lynch on a separate day, then just say you prefer a day 1 no lynch. Really not liking your non-commitalness this game (yeah, I just made up a word, you wanna fight about it?)

Nolder · July 19, 2012

Wait is this votecount right? one sec doublechecking

edit: btw if that was correct start voting for what you want in green please

WWWwombat · July 19, 2012

Ha.

Gabriel Kross · July 19, 2012

I ninja'd you Nol and your number doesn't match names :P

hazelkrs1 · July 19, 2012

Thoughts on Razen:

I also wanted to expound on something I didn't quite have time for before, about the no lynch thing. I'm somewhat wary of players that are coming out and going "Wait guys! We can no lynch but let's get hold up a sec, the train is building too fast." It's not a scummy statement, and honestly we should try to get some pressure on some peeps before ending the day, but to me it looks like a really easy way for scum to get some townie cred. After all, if w/e chance or cc card we get ends up bad for the town, they get to come out and be all "See u guys! I was against teh no lynch!"

Not saying everyone who is doing this is scummy, but it seems likely to me that scum would try this tactic.

I agree with your last sentence - it would be sensible for the scum team to divide themselves up and position themselves on both sides of the issue so as not to get the whole team noticed right off the bat. I personally believe that they went slightly more towards the no lynch due to how easy it is to hide there, but by no means does that mean they've got a

The no lynch vote with little discussion is easy for scum to hide in too, which means that have less of a chance of slipping up. All they have to say is "I'm curious - no lynch" to test the cards, and they don't really have to give more than that. It's almost impossible to read, because almost everyone going that route has voiced almost the exact same sentiment behind the vote.

I agree that scum can hide on either side, but scum can hide their vote pretty easily any day 1. What I was talking about was scum trying to earn townie cred by playing the "Let's proceed with caution guys..." card. And once again I'm not saying that we should be rushing into the no lynch, in fact I think we're going about this pretty sloppily. It seems to me that the smartest thing to do would be to pressure a few peeps today, then proceed with the no lynch after gaining an ample amount of info.

The thing is tho, it's as easy to come out and say "Hold up guys, this train is building too fast" as it is to say "I'm curious about the no lynch mechanic"

Instead of just telling everyone to slow down and unvote off the no lynch train, I attempted to bring peeps to light that had been pinging me. We already got a vanilla claim out of one cat after just one vote, imagine what we could have done had ALL of us tried scumhunting and saved the no lynch vote for closer to the deadline.

Rand is fence sitting with this comment.

I see what you mean but my curiosity is so strong right now.

He says that he can see the points addressed by Tress, Darthe and myself as to why we should discuss before going the no lynch route, but has kept his vote there. You can talk the talk, but you gotta walk the walk too. He looks good either way - if we do go the no lynch route by saying he was there, and if we decide against it, he just has to point here to say he agreed with what the three of us pointed out.

I don't really see it as fence-sitting. He said he saw where others were coming from, but he was still gonna vote no lynch. Fence-sitting would have been if he hadn't of voted for no lynch, then seemed to be torn between the two or something. Seems that he's just respectfully sticking to his guns with his post.

You, on the other hand, seem to be grasping at straws and trying to find stuff to make townies look bad

Now, how do you know that Rand is a townie? Interesting reaction. I'm just pointing out what I'm thinking - which isn't a bad thing for a townie to do.

First of all, I never said Rand was a townie. I was implying that your post could be a scummer trying to make a townie look bad. I don't see Rand's post as fence-sitting at all, so for you to use that strategy makes me think you were trying to find a way to make someone look bad. It could be a gambit between you and Rand for all I know; the point is it pinged to me.

Second, when did I say scumhunting is bad? By all means, continue giving your thoughts as they pertain to the game.

But scumhunting under false pretenses? Now that's what we call a ping my friend.

Actually we already have alot of info, we have the same info we'd have had if the no lynch option wasnt there, because we got the "skeptical reserved" people chiming in being like hey guys wait a minute... and the "gung ho" people that are all like LETS DOOOOOO IT!!! it's all about reactions, the conditions may be different but the situation is the same... and you guys are all missing the possibility of night actions being fruitful

I'm not going to deny that we don't have info - you are correct when you say that it divides us up into those categories.

What I want to point out is the last line - night actions. I'm dividing this up into two types - the cards and then the abilities of the players. Even if the card that is drawn is good (which I have no idea if it will be or not - it's all up to chance and how Nol has the cards arranged). I get the feeling that this is what you mean, but by wording it as night actions, I get the picture that you're talking about people who can kill, protect, and what not. And the only way people will know whether night actions of the traditional sense are fruitful or not are those who have them.

Erm... investigative roles? Kinda strange how you left those out. Even if day 1 ended with not quite as much info gained compared to other games, we'd still have the opportunity to use investigative roles, which might not help immediately as those roles would wisely stay hidden, but that kind of info could be useful later in the game. AND we'd find out what kind of thing to expect with the whole chance/community chest cards

I did say and what not, implying more than I had stated. Kinda strange though that you take objection that I didn't include investigative roles in that list. You said it yourself - investigative roles should probably stay hidden until later. So the fact that you're drawing attention to it is pinging me a bit.

Vote: Despo.

LoL drawing attention to it? By suggesting that there are possible investigative roles in the game? Pfft. :rolleyes:

You're once again trying to find w/e you can cling to to try and paint others in a bad light. Right now you're #2 on my list Razen, and if not for EP's meltdown going next level I would prob be switching my vote to you right now.

hazelkrs1 · July 19, 2012

And finally thoughts on EP:

Honestly I no longer have a clear head about this game, I referenced the "rule 14" as part of just a play at Despo for reactions, but looking back it really is a violation of the CoC, so I may be pulling myself out of the game due to this. My conscience is eating away at me on this one...

:dry:

I would put another rolleyes smiley here, but frankly all this eye-rolling you're causing me to do is giving me a headache EP.

So this is really your tactic now? To claim that you're ashamed that you used an acronym that refers to a curse word?

Well, while you're at it, don't forget this:

lynch me IDGARA it'll spare me this bs. I'm a vanilla town

Just in case you run out of stuff to self-flagellate for

:laugh:

Seriously tho man, if you had just kept your cool and calmly tried to defend yourself, I prob would have laid off on you, because it worried me somewhat that a few people jumped on board with my reasoning on you so quick (Peace and Hoof that I can remember off the top of my head). It's kind of rare that I post my thoughts like that and people jump on board that quick.

Even the emo business I might have excused, cause tbh I've noticed that overreactions tend to be your thing in mafia.

But then you started with this whole business. You pretend that you only "rule 14'd" me to get reactions, which besides being a lie is just completely absurd. It also seems way too calculated honestly. If you were really that concerned about breaking the CoC, I think you would prob try to play with more reserve to begin with. Failing that, you would at least ask the mod to begin with if you overstepped the line, which could poss be the case but since Nol hasn't commented on the matter and you haven't indicated that you have done this, I'm thinking you didn't, and this is all another part of your act.

Scummer.

Nolder · July 19, 2012

Yeah ok that was correct

Day 1 is officially over Oops I'm a liar, day does not end until a decision is made on the cards

Gabriel Kross · July 19, 2012

Wombat got Pac'd Nol lol

hazelkrs1 · July 19, 2012

Okay and I think I'm done.

Pretty sure EP is scum, Razen is a close second, Lenlo a somewhat distant third, and Arez is off on crazy island by himself launching pings

Nolder · July 19, 2012

Votecount

Chance:

Community Chest:

Neither:

Not Voting: Rand, David, Nightstrike, BG, Basel, Blackhoof, Lenlo, Thorum, Arez, Wombat, EP, Andrew, Des, Razen, Peacesells, Darthe, alannalynn, dicetosser1, Songstress, Lessa Nikia (20)

With 20 alive it takes 11 to choose. Deadline is on Friday at 5:00 AM PST

hazelkrs1 · July 19, 2012

All bullstuffs aside, that was pretty funny seeing EP ninja Wombat :laugh:

peacesells · July 19, 2012

All bullstuffs aside, that was pretty funny seeing EP ninja Wombat

Funny and scummy. Both of them have raised my eyebrows a bit.

peacesells · July 19, 2012

this is like voting blind.

CHANCE

WWWwombat · July 19, 2012

Looks ok to me. Hard to tell from my phone though. Nice maneuver, EP. Little bit scummy, but nice.

Vote: Chance

Not buying the arguments for Community Chest tbh. I think if you wanna gain something, you gotta take a bit of a risk.

Gabriel Kross · July 19, 2012

Community chest

and Despo think what you will I'm vanilla town I was serious about possibly pulling myself out, IDGARA and GFY have two totally different meanings I submitted myself for judgement on that one, and allowed official rulling to effect whether I remained in game. it was not a play tactic at all it was just a heads up on why I may have been replaced.

Nolder · July 19, 2012

Just so it has it's own post I set a deadline for Friday at 5AM PST

hazelkrs1 · July 19, 2012

Not sure if this is completely accurate, but I pulled this little baby off the net:

Both decks have 16 cards. Here's how they break down:

Chance deck:

10 cards move you to another space (Go, Reading RR, St. Charles, Illinois, Boardwalk, Jail, back 3, two nearest railroad cards, nearest utility)

2 cards give you money (building & loan $150, bank dividend $50)

2 take money away (chairman of the board $50/player, poor tax $15)

one takes away money if you own buildings ($25/house, $100/hotel)

one gets you out of jail free

Community Chest deck:

9 cards give you money (bank error $200, inherit $100, life insurance $100, xmas fund $100, opera $50/player, sale of stock $45, services $25, tax refund $20, beauty contest $10)

3 cards take money away (school tax $150, hospital $100, doctor $50)

two cards move you to another space (Go, Jail)

one takes away money if you own buildings ($40/house, $115/hotel)

one gets you out of jail free

Seems pretty obvious to me which one has a better chance of doing something good for town

Vote Community Chest

Nolder · July 19, 2012

Votecount

Chance: Peace, Wombat (2)

Community Chest:

Neither:

Not Voting: Rand, David, Nightstrike, BG, Basel, Blackhoof, Lenlo, Thorum, Arez, EP, Andrew, Des, Razen, Darthe, alannalynn, dicetosser1, Songstress, Lessa Nikia (18)

With 20 alive it takes 11 to choose. Deadline is on Friday at 5:00 AM PST.

Gabriel Kross · July 19, 2012

meh chance

I had no real preference on cards, it'll probably backfire on me that will be really hilarious.

Gabriel Kross · July 19, 2012

Just remember if I die due to the card, make sure you look at the people on my list closely I'm pretty sure on those 3.

hazelkrs1 · July 19, 2012

All bullstuffs aside, that was pretty funny seeing EP ninja Wombat

Funny and scummy. Both of them have raised my eyebrows a bit.

Well EP was already obviously on my scumdar, but I agree that Wombat wanting to hammer so badly is a little strange.

Either way I say we policy lynch EP tomorrow for stealing the hammer.

this is like voting blind.

CHANCE

Check out what I just posted, that may help determine which stack is better

Looks ok to me. Hard to tell from my phone though. Nice maneuver, EP. Little bit scummy, but nice.

Vote: Chance

Not buying the arguments for Community Chest tbh. I think if you wanna gain something, you gotta take a bit of a risk.

Scummer. Of course you want town to choose the stack which has more negative effect cards in it

Community chest

and Despo think what you will I'm vanilla town I was serious about possibly pulling myself out, IDGARA and GFY have two totally different meanings I submitted myself for judgement on that one, and allowed official rulling to effect whether I remained in game. it was not a play tactic at all it was just a heads up on why I may have been replaced.

Wasn't talking about IDGARA. Read that quote again. Pretty sure BS is just as bad as GFY (in that neither one really should be that big of a deal imo)

hazelkrs1 · July 19, 2012

Just remember if I die due to the card, make sure you look at the people on my list closely I'm pretty sure on those 3.

GAH! You're so scum!!!

Also, apparently it's supposed to be in green

Vote Community Chest

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