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Anyway, I was thinking that it's possible the Cult can't convert everyone. Common sense with regards to the theme would say that they shouldn't be able to convert any Stark or Lannister family members. Also, I assume that they started with 2 members (the brother & sister).

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The brother is dead per the opening scene. I was thinking of Varys as a possible cult member though. Those of you who have read through A Dance with Dragons will know why.

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  On 8/22/2011 at 9:26 PM, Smash said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 9:20 PM, John McClane said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 8:56 PM, Smash said:

My goal is to hunt the CL but I think your surest bet on regular CULT would be John McClane. He has not STFU the entire game but was silent half the day on Friday (or thrusday forget which day it was ) and I have a strong feeling he was recruited that day, was probably pissed, and had to reevaluate his position in the game at that point. His bullshit story about work is not flying with me.

 

And just for the Record I have NO PROBLEM investigating what the majority of the players in this game think is a good idea based on what we know. If we dont start killing cult now and stop letting McClane drag us in 900 directions its going to get ugly quick.

 

I've never once lied about RL in a game. The fact that you are casing me because I was onsite with a client, which you know to be part of my job from previous games, is classless.

 

You and CTM started coming at me hard last night when I cased and voted Myndrunner in night phase. At this point, I see that as you two goons trying to protect him.

 

My top 3 are Mynd, Smash and CTM, add in the dude because he's the other one I was pressing in night phase. If you guys want to lynch me to see I'm not bullshit, go for it...

 

  On 8/22/2011 at 9:06 PM, Smash said:

Im not a convert Monkey breath you are the convert and you have offered absoultely nothing to this game other than contradictions and the usual stupidity. I have told you exactly what Kiv stated in My PM's and gave a reason as to why I thought he gave me the info he did. Why would I make that shit up about a dead player ? Stop acting like a fool

 

Show me a contradiction I've made... and while your at it, explain why after you planted the seed in night phase that I was a convert, then you backed off, why you never once commented on CTM's contradictory statements and play.

 

This is a very weak and OMGUS retort you are giving us. I hope other people see through it.

 

So your saying CTM and Myself came at you and your response is to OMGUS me into oblivion with a bunch of crap filled posts diluting the game ? You were just telling Mynd how it was scummy to vote me now your after me because I applied a litle pressure ? Keep making it more apparent your were converted, exactly when I said you were. Seems your big Idea of focus on the CL has gone by the wayside makes total sense you would try to do exactly what others have accused you of doing, bring attention to yourself to protect the CL . Keep digging your own grave.

 

From where I stand, you are lying about the Crusher results. I told Mynd it was scummy to vote you because you were an uncountered Stark, now, I view you as a liar. Things change.

 

As for taking attention away from the "CL hunt" -- you and CTM are equally guilty of the same thing, re-read the past few pages, and its you two selling me as a convert. How is that CL hunting you pig?

 

Frankly, I'm happy to take a sword tonight if it means people will see I'm telling the truth - and start putting this together.

 

I decided on D1 that I wasn't going to declare - I was going to either go for the tough win as a solo survivor, or at least go out in a blaze taking cult down with me...

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  On 8/22/2011 at 9:34 PM, John McClane said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 9:12 PM, Sharrow said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 2:42 PM, John McClane said:

CTM's position on not wanting to hunt BOTH Cult and Lannister combined is a direct contradiction to the Starks win conditions of this game. See below, CTM is basically saying that he is no longer a survivor and that he has pledged Stark. However, he is chiding me for expressing satisfaction with nailing JIF because he was either Lannister or Cult.

 

Starks win when all Lannister House/Bannermen are dead... AND when all Cult is dead. If CTM is Stark he should want to kill both Lannister and Cult, and thus should consider JIF's lynch a success. He shouldn't be downplaying it and advocating that we only hunt cult.

 

Independent survivors actually have the more attainable win condition in all of this, all indie survivors have to do is kill all the Cult.

 

There are still players that have proven to not be survivors. Those are the players that the Starks should be killing at night because only they know if those players are Starks, or cult, or bannermen. We won't want to lynch them during the day because there is a possibility that they'll be Starks and forced to reveal, putting them in a bad spot to be killed.

 

Furthermore, survivors probably shouldn't be shooting cult suspects at night for that very reason, because they may be killing a Stark.

 

The fact that the Ape was saying players should "shoot cult at night" without even thinking of the possibility of shooting a Stark makes me think he either didn't declare Stark, or was converted. Speaking of which...

 

  On 8/22/2011 at 3:34 PM, John McClane said:

I bought vests and then talked a shit-ton in night phase casing people to try to draw NK attempts and avoid conversion attempts you thickheaded tard. My play completely backs this up.

 

Only Cult converts should want to draw nightkills. Any shot that tries to kill you is a shot that isn't going to kill the cult leader. The cult's main weapon is most likely recruitment and not kills. I'm not even sure if they have any kills. Imo, if you're soaking up kills, the chances are probably much much more likely that they're stark or survivor (all or most of which are probably Stark aligned).

 

You should probably be killed either at night, or 1st thing after the cult leader dies.

 

I haven't been converted. I haven't declared either. I'm still independent... I wanted to gamble.

 

The game has been broken down and its sort of obvious who the non-survivors are. Doesn't make sense for Cult to convert the ones that are tipping Lannister - so my guess is they are targeting Starks for conversion.

 

My thinking was that at some point in the game, in order to hunt cult we'd have to start killing Starks because of this - so I wanted to make sure that if it comes to it and there is 1 stark and 1 lannister left, I could win with either of them. Doesn't look like I'll last to endgame though.

 

Unvote

Vote The Dude

 

I'm the only one that has pressed him - and the minute I did, it became pertinent for both Smash and CTM to case me as a convert, even though they are both talking about going after the CL, they can't leave alone the case on me as a convert that they are making up as they go. CTM is making things up about me lining up lynches on Crusher, and Smash is lying about not getting results from doggin... yet, I'm their focus.

 

Why am I their focus - when out of the other side of their mouth they are talking about hunting the CL? Its obvious I'm not CL.

 

My guess is the dude or Mynd is the CL. I went after them both in night phase, which is how we find ourselves here with CTM and Smash both pushing me as a convert. Lynch one of the dude or mynd today, NK me if you must, and lynch the other tomorrow. If you find the CL, then lynch CTM and Smash.

 

You really do think these games revolve completely around you.

 

Unvote Vote John McClane

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  On 8/22/2011 at 9:42 PM, Smash said:

 

You really do think these games revolve completely around you.

 

Unvote Vote John McClane

 

 

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you... Smash hunting for the CL.... or not.

 

You've proven everything I said right. Thank you. Lummox.

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  On 8/22/2011 at 9:36 PM, WWWwombat said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 9:31 PM, Smash said:

I just askd Kiv to clarify for me exactly what he meant by saying "nothing" his exact words to me were ....He didn't go anywhere. You saw nothing. Im done now with this subject if you want to carry it further be my guest.

 

Note: this rule governs the use of the quote function or quoting verbiage from role PMs. Even if Smash really were quoting my exact words, he'd survive.

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If he's being truthful, tracking Crusher and not getting a result would confirm that the Lannisters didn't have a kill after Reds died. Not that that is particularly helpful or anything.

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  On 8/22/2011 at 9:45 PM, Kivam said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 9:36 PM, WWWwombat said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 9:31 PM, Smash said:

I just askd Kiv to clarify for me exactly what he meant by saying "nothing" his exact words to me were ....He didn't go anywhere. You saw nothing. Im done now with this subject if you want to carry it further be my guest.

 

Note: this rule governs the use of the quote function or quoting verbiage from role PMs. Even if Smash really were quoting my exact words, he'd survive.

 

Understood. My vote remains for now though.

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  On 8/22/2011 at 9:46 PM, Sharrow said:

If he's being truthful, tracking Crusher and not getting a result would confirm that the Lannisters didn't have a kill after Reds died. Not that that is particularly helpful or anything.

 

 

These are teh 4 original Lannisters we've killed:

 

8) Crusher (Tywin Lannister), the Lannister Paymaster

14) Red - Jaime Lannister, Lannister Swordmaster

17) BooBoo/JiF - Cersei Lannister

21) Lanth/12th Regiment - Tyrion Lannister, Lannister Backup Paymaster

 

There shoudl be 2 left, and Crusher was a paymaster so he likely would not have inherited the NK ability. The 6th Lannister would have, if anything. My guess is that they don't have a backup NKer though - seems like a lot of killing roles 2 killers on each family, plus NKing being the cheapest option for survivors... if killing is the most anti-cult ability other than investigative roles, wouldn't that be a bit unbalanced for cult?

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  On 8/22/2011 at 9:58 PM, Sharrow said:

Wait, are there 6 family members per side or 4? I thought it was 4 family and 2 bannermen?

 

Thats the way Red explained it.

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  On 8/22/2011 at 9:44 PM, John McClane said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 9:42 PM, Smash said:

 

You really do think these games revolve completely around you.

 

Unvote Vote John McClane

 

 

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you... Smash hunting for the CL.... or not.

 

You've proven everything I said right. Thank you. Lummox.

 

You really crack me up man.

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  On 8/22/2011 at 9:58 PM, Sharrow said:

Wait, are there 6 family members per side or 4? I thought it was 4 family and 2 bannermen?

 

6

 

4 family

 

2 bannerman

 

only family are in QT.

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  On 8/22/2011 at 9:45 PM, Kivam said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 9:36 PM, WWWwombat said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 9:31 PM, Smash said:

I just askd Kiv to clarify for me exactly what he meant by saying "nothing" his exact words to me were ....He didn't go anywhere. You saw nothing. Im done now with this subject if you want to carry it further be my guest.

 

Note: this rule governs the use of the quote function or quoting verbiage from role PMs. Even if Smash really were quoting my exact words, he'd survive.

 

Thats what I was thinking, nice Try WWW. No freebie today CL. :)

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  On 8/22/2011 at 10:02 PM, Smash said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 9:58 PM, Sharrow said:

Wait, are there 6 family members per side or 4? I thought it was 4 family and 2 bannermen?

 

6

 

4 family

 

2 bannerman

 

only family are in QT.

 

Did you get this via your role PM or a question to Kivam or are you basing it on Red's post?

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  On 8/22/2011 at 9:58 PM, Sharrow said:

Wait, are there 6 family members per side or 4? I thought it was 4 family and 2 bannermen?

 

This was my understanding, and I assumed of these that Crusher, Red and Lanth were family and JIF was banner? The title are all foreign to me - I guess maybe these could be the 4 family members. Not trying to be confusing, lets just do this - @mod, are any of these 4 bannermen?

 

8) Crusher (Tywin Lannister), the Lannister Paymaster

14) Red - Jaime Lannister, Lannister Swordmaster

17) BooBoo/JiF - Cersei Lannister

21) Lanth/12th Regiment - Tyrion Lannister, Lannister Backup Paymaster

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  On 8/22/2011 at 10:04 PM, Smash said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 9:45 PM, Kivam said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 9:36 PM, WWWwombat said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 9:31 PM, Smash said:

I just askd Kiv to clarify for me exactly what he meant by saying "nothing" his exact words to me were ....He didn't go anywhere. You saw nothing. Im done now with this subject if you want to carry it further be my guest.

 

Note: this rule governs the use of the quote function or quoting verbiage from role PMs. Even if Smash really were quoting my exact words, he'd survive.

 

Thats what I was thinking, nice Try WWW. No freebie today CL. :)

 

So you think he's the CL, but you are voting me... Mr. WE NEED TO HUNT THE CL?

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I would say that it's almost certain that none of those are Bannermen. Tywin is the head of House Lannister and the others are his children.

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  On 8/22/2011 at 10:11 PM, Hybrid said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 10:02 PM, Smash said:
  On 8/22/2011 at 9:58 PM, Sharrow said:

Wait, are there 6 family members per side or 4? I thought it was 4 family and 2 bannermen?

 

6

 

4 family

 

2 bannerman

 

only family are in QT.

 

Did you get this via your role PM or a question to Kivam or are you basing it on Red's post?

 

Based on Reds post and I can confirm bannerman are not in the QT

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