Question about Taim

[WhiskyJack]

Taimandred fans never make the leap that its MORIDIN!

 

No, Im not saying Moridin proclaimed himself as the Dragon Reborn, I am saying Moridin is the one Forsaken where we knew the person their body belonged to. Taim was Taim is Moridin, it explains every little quirk and mannerism you can think of, from being annoyed at the Pin and Dragon to being curious about Rand distancing his loved ones to being amused at Rands paranoia of Aes Sedai (which Moridin encouraged by whispering in his ear like he did to Hawkwing)

 

Lews Therin didnt recognise Elan Morin in EotW prologue. If Rand/Lews has any talent to recognise souls or some such, the madness is the excuse for not seeing it.

 

 

I guess it's a theory, if not a very convincing one. LTT didn't recognize anyone in prologue, not just Elan Morin. On the other hand, Rand was able to recognize Lanfear in Cyndane's body.

[FarShainMael]

Mazrim Taim is ....complicated. Rand taught him Traveling unless he was faking. If he wasn't then he surely is from 3rd age. But then Bashere failed to recognize him when they met in Camelyn. Does that mean Taim is not Taim or Bashere is not Bashere?

 

Davram 'Theres-something-dark-about-him' Bashere said he didn't recognise Taim..

[DigitalSoul]

What if Taim is a minion to Moridin AND somehow connected to the unknown thing in the blight and possibly to the weird aiel?

If he is a minion to Moridin it would explain the colours and the let the lord of chaos rule comment.

If there is some AoL nation or sept of darkfriend aiel in the blight that Taim use to live with that would explain Taims so-called-aiel comment.

Crazy theory?

[brolie]

Taimandred fans never make the leap that its MORIDIN!

 

No, Im not saying Moridin proclaimed himself as the Dragon Reborn, I am saying Moridin is the one Forsaken where we knew the person their body belonged to. Taim was Taim is Moridin, it explains every little quirk and mannerism you can think of, from being annoyed at the Pin and Dragon to being curious about Rand distancing his loved ones to being amused at Rands paranoia of Aes Sedai (which Moridin encouraged by whispering in his ear like he did to Hawkwing)

 

 

 

I thought that there was a connection with Moridin and Taim because of Moridin's palace in the blight when Graendal goes and gets to view a glimpse of the plans with Dem and Mes .., with the black and red tiles and in a black tower. I thought that scene was sort of a hint since there was just recently a description of Taim's hall when the Elaida Aes Sedai goes to Taim to ask to bond Ashaman. Not sure what connection that directly implies, but the two palaces are way too similar to me

[Mr Ares]

Mazrim Taim is ....complicated. Rand taught him Traveling unless he was faking. If he wasn't then he surely is from 3rd age. But then Bashere failed to recognize him when they met in Camelyn. Does that mean Taim is not Taim or Bashere is not Bashere?

Neither. Bashere was initially unable to recognise Taim due to Taim looking a bit different - he'd shaved his beard and looked older due to the rigours of his journey. Bashere not recognising him is perfectly understandable under those circumstances, and it should be noted that he quickly accepted Taim was Taim.

 

 

Taim was Taim is Moridin, it explains every little quirk and mannerism you can think of.

I can think of a few things it doesn't explain, like Taim using Sammael and Be'lal's sigil - a sigil Moridin doesn't use, Moridin's desire to confuse his subordinates with the orders in WH, why he decided to walk to Caemlyn when he knows how to Travel, why RJ made so many comments that rule it out when RAFO answers would have left it a possibility, and so on.

[WhiskyJack]

Taim is arrogant and jealous of Rand(power, position) while Moridin doesn't give a crap about power. Atleast character-wise, Taim is more Demandred than Moridin. That's just one difference between these two.