Perrin Perun parallels

[herid]

I wrote a blog post about parallels between Perrin's character and the slavic god Perun.

[Pygmalion79]

I wrote a blog post about parallels between Perrin's character and the slavic god Perun.

Thanks, that's interesting and helpful.

[FarShainMael]

Your blog wonders about connections to mythological wolves.

 

There is a wolf, Fenrir, in Norse mythology, who is foretold to kill Odin (=Mat!) during Ragnarok (=TG). Fenrir was also the one who bit off the hand of Tyr (=Rand).

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenrir

 

There's a summary of wolves in mythology at

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_wolf#In_folklore_and_mythology

 

I think Fenrir may = Slayer.

[herid]

Your blog wonders about connections to mythological wolves.

 

There is a wolf, Fenrir, in Norse mythology, who is foretold to kill Odin (=Mat!) during Ragnarok (=TG). Fenrir was also the one who bit off the hand of Tyr (=Rand).

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenrir

 

There's a summary of wolves in mythology at

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_wolf#In_folklore_and_mythology

 

I think Fenrir may = Slayer.

Thanks for the links and for mentioning Fenrir. I read about him but did not think of him in this context. I really should read up on Nordic mythology. There seem to be a number of interesting clues there. In particular, Mat is supposed to be based on Odin (as you say) and also on Locke. But he is safe from being killed by Slayer I think given that RJ planned some outrigger novels about him.

 

However, Slayer might just be the one to kill Rand (or at least give it a good try). He mentioned once that he'd like to and Gitara Moroso apparently foretold that he'll play a major role in the Last Battle.

 

But if Slayer is Fenrir then he is a twisted "bad" wolf. I was wondering if Perrin's connection to "good" wolves has some basis in mythology too. It doesn't have to of course but given that so many of his other traits are based in mythology I would be surprised if this one wasn't. So Thor apparently has no special connection with wolves? It could also be that Perrin's connection with wolves is based on some other myths. I remember reading a quote that WoT is most heavily based on north American and Nordic myths. The former are not often discussed, I guess because few people know much of anything about them. I know absolutely nothing about them myself. The link on myth in mythology that you gave mentions Dena'ina people in Alaska who believed wolves were once men, and viewed them as brothers. I wonder if that's related somehow.

[konkoivu]

Your blog wonders about connections to mythological wolves.

 

There is a wolf, Fenrir, in Norse mythology, who is foretold to kill Odin (=Mat!) during Ragnarok (=TG). Fenrir was also the one who bit off the hand of Tyr (=Rand).

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenrir

 

There's a summary of wolves in mythology at

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_wolf#In_folklore_and_mythology

 

I think Fenrir may = Slayer.

Thanks for the links and for mentioning Fenrir. I read about him but did not think of him in this context. I really should read up on Nordic mythology. There seem to be a number of interesting clues there. In particular, Mat is supposed to be based on Odin (as you say) and also on Locke. But he is safe from being killed by Slayer I think given that RJ planned some outrigger novels about him.

 

However, Slayer might just be the one to kill Rand (or at least give it a good try). He mentioned once that he'd like to and Gitara Moroso apparently foretold that he'll play a major role in the Last Battle.

 

But if Slayer is Fenrir then he is a twisted "bad" wolf. I was wondering if Perrin's connection to "good" wolves has some basis in mythology too. It doesn't have to of course but given that so many of his other traits are based in mythology I would be surprised if this one wasn't. So Thor apparently has no special connection with wolves? It could also be that Perrin's connection with wolves is based on some other myths. I remember reading a quote that WoT is most heavily based on north American and Nordic myths. The former are not often discussed, I guess because few people know much of anything about them. I know absolutely nothing about them myself. The link on myth in mythology that you gave mentions Dena'ina people in Alaska who believed wolves were once men, and viewed them as brothers. I wonder if that's related somehow.

IMO there are no "good" wolves in any (northern) european myths. Since all myths are from rural areas and wolves and cattle aren't such a good combination it's no wonder.

[herid]

Actually, I dug around some more and it does look like in some stories Perun is associated with wolves although this is not mentioned very often and there seems to be some debate about it. In some stories he can even turn into a wolf[/url] like in this story about Perun getting married to the daughter of the sea king.

 

In general, in Slavic mythology wolves were considered to be related to the other world - the world of the dead.

[Wantanswers]

Perrin is a mixture of a lot of mythological and historical characters, just as everyone of the main characters. Linda of the 13deposetory wrote essays about a lot of characters and their parallels. You can find a reference to each of them on:

 

http://"http://13depository.blogspot.com/2000/05/index-by-theme.html"