New computer question

[Kaznen]

I'm waiting for UPS to deliver my new laptop to me.  It will be an HP dv4-1514dx and I was wondering if anyone knows if I will be able to play the PC version of Assassin's Creed on it.  I don't want to buy the game and find out I can't play it after I open it up.

[SinisterDeath]

Well, I can't really tell if you can or not.

 

You CPU is 2.1Ghz,

You have plenty of Ram.

And I know nothing about your Video Card.

 

Heres something that should work. Type the games name in there

Assassin's Creed (1 or 2)

Should tell you if you can play it.

http://cyri.systemrequirementslab.com/CYRI/intro.aspx

 

If that doesn't give you an answer, try downloading Steam, via http://store.steampowered.com , and download the Batman Arkham Asylum Demo. I'm pretty sure if you can play Batman, you can play Assassins Creed.

[Silver]

Side note, booo! Assassin's Creed on PC is evil! (this coming from a PC gamer)

 

http://kotaku.com/5474209/assassins-creed-ii-pcs-drm-sounds-as-pleasant-as-a-stab-in-the-neck

[Spiffiness]

Personally, Assassin's Creed isn't worth it because it gets boring/repetitive rather quickly.

[Kaznen]

Went to the website SD recommended, I can't run it anyway.  But does anyone know how to get Never Winter Nights to run on Windows 7?

[Spiffiness]

You can't make it run in compatibility mode?

[SinisterDeath]

Went to the website SD recommended, I can't run it anyway.  But does anyone know how to get Never Winter Nights to run on Windows 7?

 

First, is it Neverwinter Nights 1 by bioware, Neverwinter Nights 2 by Obsidian, or the oringal old-school NWN MMORPG from the early 90s?

If its NWN1/2 by bioware/obsidian,

 

Right click properties on the NWN icon on your desktop.

Click the Compatability tab.

Check the Run this program in compatability mode for:

Select Windows XP Sp2 or 3.

 

Check Run as Adminstrator.

Hit apply.

 

Try the game.

If you had a compatability error before aka

"this program is not compatabil with windows 7 blah blah blah" and doesn't give you any options besides close,

And now it gives you an error code? Copy/paste that Error code here, or into google.

 

Also, it might help.

Go to HP and download drivers for you laptop there. Just incase yours isn't uptodate and windows 7 doesn't auto-update from hp.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareCategory?product=4072670&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&cc=us

 

thats a link to your laptop, assuming the product code is correct.

You need to open either the windows 7 64 bit, or the 32 bit link, depending on which you have for your notebook.

 

There are two ways to check this.

1) check your CD key for windows on the bottom of your laptop, It might say if its 64bit or 32bit.

If it doesn't, or you can't find it.

2) Go to Control Panel under your start Bar.

click on System and Security

click on System.

 

It'll bring up a lil screen that looks like this.

(note, not mine, just one I googled)

 

Under System Type, it'll say 64bit or 32bit. If its 64, go to that HP link I posted earlier, and go to the 64bit one. IF its 32, go to the 32.

Another faster way to get to that screen, is simply open your startbar, and type in System, There'll be a list, And all you have to do is click the one that says System under the Control Panel Heading.

Also, if you have the Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family Graphics card, or the Nvidia GeForce G 105M/103M card, download the driver for the graphics card you have.

You can access that info in that same System window, left hand side, Device Manager

Find display Adapters click the arrow on the left, and it'll give you a name, if its the geforce one, download Geforce driver, is if its anything not-geforce (or radeon?) do the intel 4 series express chipset family graphics driver.

 

Once you get the correct OS, get to the correct page on that HP site, download the graphics drivers, and at most the audio drivers. I'd leave everything else alone for now. :P

[Kaznen]

I downloaded the crisis rebuild from bioware's website (NWN1, according to that one site I don't have the video card for NWN2) and after downloading I opened it in compatibility mode with Vista (the only one that would work, don't know why.  It has problem were my guy keeps getting stuck in walls, but I save and reload when that happens.

 

But all this work...That's why I like consoles, you just drop the disk in and turn on the machine.  Wish I could afford a PS3 right now  >:(

[SinisterDeath]

I downloaded the crisis rebuild from bioware's website (NWN1, according to that one site I don't have the video card for NWN2) and after downloading I opened it in compatibility mode with Vista (the only one that would work, don't know why.  It has problem were my guy keeps getting stuck in walls, but I save and reload when that happens.

 

But all this work...That's why I like consoles, you just drop the disk in and turn on the machine.  Wish I could afford a PS3 right now  >:(

 

Nah, thats just what happens when you buy a low-end laptop....

(Highends go for like, $3000, but for $1000 you get a desktop 2x as powerful. )

 

As for the stuck-in-walls thing, I believe thats a common issue in NWN games. try patching it? might fix it.. But yea, save often.

[Silver]

But all this work...That's why I like consoles, you just drop the disk in and turn on the machine.  Wish I could afford a PS3 right now  >:(

 

That's kind of like complaining why not all of your PS1 and PS2 games work on your PS3.

[SinisterDeath]

But all this work...That's why I like consoles, you just drop the disk in and turn on the machine.  Wish I could afford a PS3 right now  >:(

 

That's kind of like complaining why not all of your PS1 and PS2 games work on your PS3.

 

99% of all ps1/ps2 games work on original model ps3s.. Not really seeing the parrallel.

 

I think a fairer one would be like a model car, vs hotwheels.

You have to build the model car, vs pre-packaged car already built.

 

Except that the model car also lets you go online, watch movies, download porn, read DM, or use any number of software that could even build a new car. ;)

[Silver]

Was talking about backwards compatibility, not the system itself. I'm just saying that while it would be nice to have some things backwards compatible, expecting everything to be isn't very reasonable. And as a programmer, making stuff that is backwards compatible is a pain in the ass. There's a time when you just have to let the old formats/versions die.

[Anoxanmore]

NWN 1 shouldn't have an issue running on windows 7.  It is 32bit and Win 7 64 or 32 should be fine.

 

I run it on my desktop and I run win 7 ultimate x64. Not to mention other many older games from early 90s.

 

The ones I can't get to run are the ones that require DOS as dos is gone in win 7 completely. 2-8 bit support is completely nixed. :D (IE DOS)

 

*Edit*

 

I take that back in Win 7 x64, they nixed 16 bit support as well without running it in compatability mode. Finally 16 bit apps can die in a very painful fire.

[SinisterDeath]

NWN 1 shouldn't have an issue running on windows 7.  It is 32bit and Win 7 64 or 32 should be fine.

 

I run it on my desktop and I run win 7 ultimate x64. Not to mention other many older games from early 90s.

 

The ones I can't get to run are the ones that require DOS as dos is gone in win 7 completely. 2-8 bit support is completely nixed. :D (IE DOS)

 

No, you can play dos in windows 7, you need an emulator. As you did with XP, and Vista. Dos has been gone since XP, not 7.

 

But yea, older games lose a bit of compatability with each new version of windows. As much as vista and 7 look alike, the fact that theres more compatability issues, is a testimate that thers far more differences under the hood. But theres always work-arounds.

PS1-PS2-PS3 are designed explicitly to be BC with all previous versions, but they can do this for one simple reason.

They contain hardware from each previous console. PC doesn't do that at all, closest you get to that is the software side OS, and one of the biggest complaints about windows is the fact that they were constantly using stuff back from the windows 4.0 era to Vista. 7's taking far more of that out.

 

Alot of the compatability errors your going to get however, are 'fake' compatability errors. Escentially some games 'check' the OS, and if it doesn't recognize the newer ones (which older software won't) it'lls ay its not compatabile until you put it into compatability mode.

Some games you almost have to hack that aspect just to get it to work.

Others you have to open a different executable just to play it...

[Anoxanmore]

I used dos in XP... it was a fake emulation cmd window, but it worked, Win 7 doesn't support anything below 32 bit if you have 64 bit OS. :P

[SinisterDeath]

I used dos in XP... it was a fake emulation cmd window, but it worked, Win 7 doesn't support anything below 32 bit if you have 64 bit OS. :P

Same in windows 7, you use an emulator.

actual DoS support ended in XP, DoS was non-existant in it, thus you had to use an emulator for it.

[Anoxanmore]

XP still supported 16 bit games, even 8 bit games.

 

so you could use that fake cmd window built into XP to run DOS games.

 

However, you can't in Win 7. They nixed support for 16 bit, and 8 bit and below in win 7 x64. 16 bit support is still in win 7 32, but no fake DOS box using cmd does not run like dos. Therefore it doesn't work.

[SinisterDeath]

XP still supported 16 bit games, even 8 bit games.

 

so you could use that fake cmd window built into XP to run DOS games.

 

However, you can't in Win 7. They nixed support for 16 bit, and 8 bit and below in win 7 x64. 16 bit support is still in win 7 32, but no fake DOS box using cmd does not run like dos. Therefore it doesn't work.

 

Dosbox is a seperate program, its an excutable. it works in windows 7. I know, i've used it.

Actual DOS does not work in XP at all, DOS memory is something they took out of the OS/motherboards/ect as an industry standard. The only way to use DOS in XP is to use an emulator like Dosbox.

[Silver]

What Anoxanmore is saying:

XP cmd window: supports 8,16, and 32 bit games

Win 7 32 cmd window: Supports 16, 32, 64 bit games

Win 7 64 cmd window: Supports 32 and 64 bit games

 

What SD is saying:

DOSBox is an emulator that'll run those games

[Ashaman DeRouge]

I can't even get DOSbox to run, and I'm using 3.1

 

Kidding. But seriously DOSBox confuses me. Which is a shame, because Daggerfall and Fury 3x kick ass.

[SinisterDeath]

http://static.bethsoft.com/downloads/games/daggerfall_legal_and_installation.pdf

http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1012957

 

[Ashaman DeRouge]

Also, SinisterDeath kicks ass!

[Anoxanmore]

What Anoxanmore is saying:

XP cmd window: supports 8,16, and 32 bit games

Win 7 32 cmd window: Supports 16, 32, 64 bit games

Win 7 64 cmd window: Supports 32 and 64 bit games

 

What SD is saying:

DOSBox is an emulator that'll run those games

 

Yes, that is what I am saying. :P