White Tower Mafia - Game Over

[Spirit1025]

Do we have a majority on Krugster, then?

 

In defense of my own inactivity--

I'm just a quiet person. I'm like that in real life too. I listen way more than I speak. I don't usually say anything unless I have something important to say. I don't see anything wrong with that, myself. Perhaps it slows the game down a bit, and perhaps it makes me look suspicious. But it's just not natural for me to be highly vocal. And I'm also still learning how this game works, so sometimes I'm not really sure what to say. And it probably does not help that I do not have internet at home right now, so I can only check it from my office, where I am only present in the mornings.

[Samuraiflip05]

(Lol...on a side note...I will have finished two fast games in the span of this one.  ;)  )

[Daetirion]

Almost at the walls of the Stone, a majority was reached quickly. Lifting Krugster Sedai from her saddle, they lift her up to the heights of the wall screaming. Then, keeping her sheilded, they drop the weave...  and her.

 

Whilst the end result is rather gory, as her brown shawl floats down someone realises the glamour that is on it. Reversing the weave reveals a shawl of darkest night.

 

Krugster, of the Black Ajah, has been Lynched. It is now Night 4. Please send in your night actions asap. Night 4 will end at 5pm GMT on Sunday.

[Verbal32]

Uh....so we have 1 more?  Looks like I was wrong about the missed NK.  There must have been a recruitment instead.  Either that or there is just 1 more regular Black Ajah and it must be Spirit.  It can't be me, as then Cairos would have to be as well, and there's no way multiple recruitments would have happened along with NKs.

 

Thoughts?

[Naeann]

Gah I don't know.  I was banking on that being endgame.  Spirit makes the logical choice as the rest of us are pretty well confirmed.  Guess we will find out what's going on with what happens at night.  Cairos go ahead and view spirit and see what that tells us.  If she comes up innocent we got a sneaky duck out here.

[Samuraiflip05]

At this point the Mafia should NK themselves.  ;D

 

Now I guess we wait?  :-\

[Daetirion]

Dawn rises, and unsurprisingly to most, it is Cairos Sedai that does not join the group for breakfast in the morning. After going off to investigate, she is found in a stairwell of the Stone, dagger jutting out from her back. Prepared for defenses against less mundane weapons, it is perhaps no surprise such a simple method finished her off.

 

Cairos Sedai, the Finder, has been Night Killed. It is now Day 5. With 4 alive, it requires 3 votes on a single player to lynch them. Day 5 will end at 5pm GMT on Tuesday.

 

Incidentally, welcome to End game. Good luck  :D

[Samuraiflip05]

Okay so the question now is wether Spirit was mafia, or if someone was turned? 

[Naeann]

No.. If someone was turned that would have been game over because it would be a tie now. There's only 4 of us left.

 

Since we told Cairos to view [glow=red,2,300]Spirit[/glow] and he's now dead I'm inclined to believe it's her.  Cairos viewed Verbal and he really was the finder so it's gotta be Spirit.  If not, props to whoever you are.

[Naeann]

Although.... something still nags me about Verbal.  There are 3 black ajahs dead already.  Surely there weren't 4 in the game. It would make it unbalanced [glow=red,2,300]Unvote[/glow].  I still think you might be up to something.  Viewed or not.  Maybe you are a solo win.  There were a few nights with two kills after we lost our vig.  It wasn't the masons... [glow=red,2,300]Verbal[/glow].

[Samuraiflip05]

Well Verbal may be a solo win....but if that is the case, even if we lynch a SW or a Mafia it is game over.  Once we kill one or the other, the one saved NK's and evens it down to one on one.  I don't know how that scenario works for a SW but Mafia means game over.  If there is a SW, then we are pretty much lost.  If I were a Mafia, I would not turn the last person left unaccounted for (Spirit), I would target someone who had either been read, or confirmed as the chance for survival is significantly greater. 

 

Since it took extra time for Dae to reply to Cairos, I'll assume that Cairos action was last, which means if it was a turn, it was not Cairos(Not revealed at death) and not Verbal(confirmed by Cairos).  At this point those are the only two alignments I feel positively about(other than my own).  And based on the smart logic I would assume that Spirit is an unlikely target, so I will say [glow=red,2,300]NAE[/glow].

 

There has been no communication between her and I in quite some time, so I know nothing of her current status.  :-\

[Naeann]

Have you even bothered to try Sammy?  No.  No one was turned.  There were 3 mafia and a solo killer. All that means is he wins if he kills us all.  And he wins alone.  IF I had been turned I'd have kept in contact with you on purpose to try to thwart you.  Vote me off and he wins because I am what I have said i am since day one.

[Samuraiflip05]

Well as I said...if we lynch the mafia, then there is a SWNK which leaves two.  I don't know how things work in that situation.  If we lynch the SW then there is a Mafia NK that leaves two and the mafia win 1/1 ration.  If we lynch an innocent then there are two night kills and it seems highly unlikely that the SW and Mafia would NK each other.  I think the innocents have lost all around. 

 

I am convinced there was a turn and that there is a vig type/SW character.  At this point I still think turning someone already known would have been the best bet.  I'll stand. 

[Spirit1025]

Since we told Cairos to view Spirit

and he's now dead I'm inclined to believe it's her.  Cairos viewed Verbal and he really was the finder so it's gotta be Spirit.  If not, props to whoever you are.

 

No, it's not me. =) Whoever it is is keeping their secret well though. Hmm. Perhaps [glow=red,2,300]Verbal[/glow]?

[Verbal32]

Spirit, are you just voting me because Nae did?  Her statement that Cairos was supposed to view you and is now dead makes sense and implicates you.  However, what Samurai said also makes some sense.  I'm not sure who to vote for.

 

Samurai, I am more inclined to think Spirit, but having 3 different people voted will not get us anywhere.  I'd rather vote Spirit here to be honest.

 

But, in the effort to not toss this up to a coin flip, I'll vote [glow=red,2,300]Nae[/glow].

[Naeann]

What you two are saying does not make sense to me.  I don't think anyone was recruited.  Because the best bet for that was Cairos and his coroner report showed innocent finder.  THERE ARE NO MORE MAFIA.  There HAVE BEEN two kills though.  That implies a vig/psycho.  Since Danya was the vig that makes me think more likely its a psycho.  I can forgive sammy for thinking that but you know better.  Which makes me think it's you.

 

I stand by my reasoning that a recruiter would have been stupid to pick me or sammy over Cairos.  He would have been more  valuable to them and Sammy your arguments are just as much pointing at you as me.  That matters not as with Cairos's death I no longer think there IS a recruited mafia... I think it's a chosen hiding out as a regular sister.  Perhaps one that gets a godfather type viewing?  Meaning their hidden ajah (red) is what shows on coroner reports.  I'm not wavering in my vote so I guess it will just have to end in a random.

[Spirit1025]

Spirit, are you just voting me because Nae did?  Her statement that Cairos was supposed to view you and is now dead makes sense and implicates you.

 

No, I can think for myself. =) You seemed a more likely choice to me than Naeann or Samurai. I can't see one of them being a mason AND something else too. So, that leaves you with no confirmed role, seeing as how I know what I am. And if you forgot, I am a Brown. Vote for me if you will, but you'll just be wasting your vote. My vote stands as it is, for now.

[Daetirion]

Vote count

 

Nae (2) - Verbal, SamuraiFlip

Verbal (2) - Nae, Spirit

 

You have exactly 24 hours before this goes random.

[Verbal32]

And if you forgot, I am a Brown.

 

We have that only on your word.  I've been confirmed by Cairos.  We know that Samurai, Naeann, and Hybrid started as Masons.  Based on the way the game has gone, it appears that there was a recruitment.  Samurai is right when he says that the mafia would have been more likely to turn a known innocent.  It would make sense for a Mason to be turned, which is why I was arguing with Nae a few days ago that she was as likely as me to have been recruited.  And Cairos would have viewed me as Black Ajah if I had been turned.  But he didn't, and his confirmed death also confirms I'm not Black Ajah.

 

This points me to either you, Spirit, or one of the Masons.  Between them, Nae is the one that is more suspicious.  Even though I lean more towards you, Spirit, Samurai's logic seems pretty sound.  That's why I'd rather we do this with some sort of agreement, rather than it be totally random.  If the Black Ajah is going to win, I'd rather it be with us lynching somebody over a random modkill due to not having a majority.  Does this make sense?

[Naeann]

Except I'm a plain old innocent mason and I never said you got recruited.  I said Cairos would have been the likely target for recruitment.  Think of how mafia could use a finder.  Fake finder results anyone?  I no longer think there was recruiting going on.  I think there was a psycho killer which EXPLAINS THE NIGHTS WITH TWO KILLS.  Two green vigs would be too unbalanced. But a green vig and a psycho balances it a bit more.

 

We don't know if Cairos got a fake reading on you.  Such as *broken record effect* a godfather would have.  They show up as innocent.  Who's to say you arent a powerful black ajah with the ability to hide in your fake ajah's color?  Who's to say you arent messanna or something and again, have the ability to hide out in your fake ajah's color? 

[Verbal32]

You know, I think you might be on to something there, Nae.  Mesaana.  It would make sense to have her in the game....and it DOES exlain the nights with 2 NKs.  But I don't think that Mesaana (if it is true) would have a Godfather ability too - that would be overpowered.  It does explain a couple of things, though:

 

1.  Namely, why the game isn't over.

 

2.  Why a Black Ajah member was NKed.

 

3.  Why Cairos was NKed before viewing Spirit.

 

[glow=red,2,300]Unvote Nae[/glow]

 

Think for a second.  If it was me, why would I kill Cairos?  He just got done viewing me, and he was set to view Spirit next.  He would have re-viewed you or Samurai before viewing me again.  It would be a bad choice for me.

 

I was mostly sure, but your idea does it for me.  I'm going with my gut and the most logical choice in my opinion.

 

[glow=red,2,300]Spirit[/glow]

 

[Naeann]

It's end game anyways... So I'll go with you on that to prevent a random kill.  But if you are wrong or lying you owe me soooo badly.

 

[glow=red,2,300]Unvote

vote Spirit[/glow]

[Samuraiflip05]

Hmm, I was thinking about the end game scenario.  There has to be a mafia left, else the game would be over, like Verbal said.  My familiarity with expanded characters is limited, but it does seem that a GF type character with added powers would be overbearing.  I'm going to go with this, but I still think that Nae(or myself for that matter) would have been the best candidates for turning.  And I would think that some effort would have been made for a night action. 

 

[glow=red,2,300]Unvote

Vote Spirit[/glow]

 

My suspicion, due to my own innocence, is still on Nae for a turning. 

[Naeann]

Heh I think I'll ask for apologies for you two doubting me once this is over.

[Spirit1025]

::) Well, whatever. I hope the innocents don't lose the game for voting for me.

 

Verbal, you are confirmed as Red, but you will never tell us what your ability is as a Red. You must have something, since Browns are the roleless ones. I'm suspicious of you because you claim to be an innocent Red, but won't tell us what an innocent Red is. That makes me think you are hiding something, and I have no idea what it is.

 

I don't know if there's anything I can do to talk you guys out of voting for me, so go right ahead.

 

My vote still stands on Verbal.