Thoughts on AMOL

[Guest leebarr]

This is what i would like to see in AMOL.

Rand will send Logain to take control of the Black Tower. Then he will meet up with Mat and them two will go meet Tuon. Rand and Tuon will be allies for the last battle only. The white tower will be attacked, Ewgene will take control of that. Lan's, Bershir's and other armys will come together to face the shadowspawn on the edge of the blight. When that is taking place Rand and Ewgene will lead the white and black towers to SG and end the battle. A lot of little details are missing but Brandon will fill them in I hope.

[key]

I'd love to see Logain go to take over the BT - him facing Taim would be amazing. Note that even though Taim has more dedicated followers, and his are Asha'man, not Dedicated like Logain's, Logain can make circles with the Aes Sedai his group bonded. That'll be one of the biggest OP-only battles in the series, maybe THE biggest outside Tarmon'Gaidon ! :D

 

I'm not sure whether what you put down is meant to be chronological, but remember that since the Seanchan are the ones who will attack the WT, and Rand wouldn't want this, he'll have to ally with her (if he does) after she's ordered that.

 

OOORRR; Suroth/Darkfriend Seanchan could attack the Tower, with Semirhage making a gateway. Though, I don't think they have the strength over the Seanchan to attack the WT with decent strength - Egwene's dream had it being severely weakened.

[Majsju]

I doubt Tuon will order the attack on the WT. The order has been given, and as long as she does not say otherwise, it will just be carried out.

 

And it will take some time before she can meet Rand, reach an agreement, and then go out and spread the new orders to the entire army. She does have a few things to concern herself with first with her own people.

[CUBAREY]

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I doubt Tuon will order the attack on the WT. The order has been given, and as long as she does not say otherwise, it will just be carried out.

 

And it will take some time before she can meet Rand, reach an agreement, and then go out and spread the new orders to the entire army. She does have a few things to concern herself with first with her own people.

 

Actually there is no proof that an order has been given to attack the White Tower. At best their are indications that the Seanchen are preparing for an attack. More importantly, why do you people believe the attack, if it hapens (Egwene's dream seems to make the possibility conditional) will occur prior to TG. Tuon is actually quiet smart and may realize that any attempt to capture the White Tower prior to TG would seriously reduce the number of the forces availiable to fighton the side of the light in TG. It will more likely take place as part of the Seanchen attempt to expand their Randland holdings after TG.

[Luckers]

Actually there are indications that the order has been given. Suroth commands that the raken be sent north against Interulde, and Galgan agrees so long as she doesn't take the to'raken because 'that plan must go forth', and thus indicating that it had already been begun--and between that and the fact that when Perrin goes seeking raken we learn that the raken and to'raken farms had already been stripped, we know the assault will occur very soon. You dont amass a force that you need elsewhere only to sit around and wait for six months to use them. Especially not a force that you can gather so quickly at any time you want.

 

The attack has indeed been ordered, and is underway.

[CUBAREY]

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and between that and the fact that when Perrin goes seeking raken we learn that the raken and to'raken farms had already been stripped

 

We are specificly told that most of the flying animals have been taken to deal withg the goings on in Arath Plane.

 

Also many of the troops seem to be directed at Illian not the White Tower.

[RobertAlexWillis]

We are specificly told that most of the flying animals have been taken to deal withg the goings on in Arath Plane.

 

You do know that the best path, across completely uninhabited land, from the Seanchan controlled southwest to the White Tower is from Almoth Plain, east across the Caralain Grass and the Black Hills, right?  There's basically no one out there.  The Seanchan could set up a grand total of four re-supply camps, and then, using to'raken, transport literally thousands of sul'dam/damane pairs and tens of thousands of troops to Tar Valon, with no one in Randland being the wiser.  They could already have set up those camps, and no one would know.

 

Also many of the troops seem to be directed at Illian not the White Tower.

 

Come again?  Which troops, exactly, are those?  Going to Illian from Ebou Dar by way of the Murandy border is pretty stupid ... all indications are that they have pulled back from the land border with Illian, following the battle with Rand.

 

If they planned to attack Illian now, they'd probably do it by sea, like they did Ebou Dar.  The only reason they didn't do that before was that there were really bad storms constantly in the Kabal Deep between Ebou Dar and Illian (see TPoD ch 14).  Those storms were the result of the backlash after the wondergirls used the Bowl of the Winds.  That backlash has settled, now, and the much more practical sea lane is open again.

 

But Tuon isn't interested in Illian.  She is interested in two things: the Dragon Reborn, and the White Tower.

[Luckers]

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and between that and the fact that when Perrin goes seeking raken we learn that the raken and to'raken farms had already been stripped

 

We are specificly told that most of the flying animals have been taken to deal withg the goings on in Arath Plane.

 

Also many of the troops seem to be directed at Illian not the White Tower.

 

Actually we arn't. Firstly Galgan specifically states that Suroth may NOT have any to'raken at all for the affair that are occuring in Arad Domon (by that stage Interulde is just past the Almoth Plain).

 

And like Robert I am troubled by your claim about Illian. Indeed, by all acounts the Seanchan are digging in their position, no looking to extend it. Furthermore we witness generals in the Mulvinde Pass studying maps of Tar Valon.

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But Tuon isn't interested in Illian.  She is interested in two things: the Dragon Reborn, and the White Tower

 

She may have a particular interest in the Dragon Reborn due to the nearness of TG and the Seanchen version of the Prophecies and a well established hatred of A.S. but she leads the "Return" to reclaim all lands wrongfully usurped from Hawkwin's hiers.

[RobertAlexWillis]

but she leads the "Return" to reclaim all lands wrongfully usurped from Hawkwin's hiers.

 

Which is a distant third on her list of priorities.  She believes that if she binds the Dragon Reborn to serve her, and leashes all the Aes Sedai, that conquering Randland is a foregone conclusion.  Conquering Illian was Suroth's priority, because the more land the Haliene conquered under her leadership, the better she looked when the Corenne actually came with Tuon.  Tuon isn't worried about impressing superiors though.  Thats why no move has been made toward Illian since ... drum roll please ... Tuon's arrival.

[Dragon21]

I am looking forward to a Logain vs Taim showdown, with Logain gaining control of the BT.

 

Most of all, I can't wait for the return of Moiraine. Wohoo!  ;D

[Guest Dreadlord]

I reckon Logain is guna take out Demandred. Im sure that at some point at a Forsaken meeting Arangar points out that it was Osan'gars task to watch Rand; Osangars task, and Demandreds. Im positive she says that although I cant remember which book or page it is.

 

So I came up with this; After KoD, Demandred feels it is time to show himself, and with help from Taim he manages to get to the Black Tower maquerading as Rand (Taim helps him know when rand isnt there etc.) Demandred and Taim really start messing the Black Tower up. In AMOL at the start Rand decides to send Logain to the Black Tower to keep an eye on Taim. As soon as Logain gets to the Black Tower Logain hears all sorts of rumours: Rand and Taim have been acting all pallypally, Rand supposedly handing full control of the Black Tower to Taim, and all sorts of suspicious stuff that Logain notices to be way out of the ordinary. Anyway, Logain hears that Rand is at the Black Tower there and then and so goes to see him. When they meet this time though, Logain notices Rand has his hand back, and Rand looks surprised to see him. Logain figures out that its an imposter, kills him, and it turns out to be Demandred. Logain then reports to the real Rand, and its RAND that kills Taim, not Logain.