The writers WANT to change WoT and they didn't have to

[Mailman]

  On 2/4/2025 at 12:13 PM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Religious representation and inclusion does not necessitate advocating for human rights abuses. Just as the inclusion of male American actors does mean that you are advocating male infant circumcision. Malaysian culture promotes the type 4 FGM (which is non-surgical, though I don't know exactly what it entails, the medical papers I read were not dealing specifically with this aspect). To blame this on religion, or to exclude Malaysians from such things as casting on WoT, does not seem an effect way of helping young Malaysian women to me. 

 

Being in favour of exclusion, whether in grounds of racism, or on grounds of all religion is wrong and only you know the truth, does smack of bigotry. And seeing as the context of the discussion is diverse casting in the Wheel of Time, your antagonism against said inclusion, and support for opinions such as those of Samt, is somewhat confusing if you are wholly in favour of this type of inclusion. 

 

Perhaps it is simply your desire to be as unpleasant as possible to people who enjoy the show, but I would advise that if you want to discuss an issue that you state your own opinion as opposed to attacking and mocking those who may have a slightly different from you. 

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I mean I have stated my opinion on multiple occasions. I will attempt to flesh it out a bit more to try and be as clear as possible.

 

An active inclusion policy should be purely about the innate attributes of a person. Innate being the characteristics that you are born with or are present naturally, and no I'm not arguing right wing garbage here, I believe that sexual orientation and whatever you consider to be your gender to be part of those innate characteristics and that you should be free without reservation and persecution from embracing that lifestyle.

 

Religion is outside this along with everything else including atheism. It does not require an active inclusion policy it can be present within stories when it is required and needed. Construction companies are outside this. It does not require an active inclusion policy it can be present within stories when it is required and needed. A sports carnival is outside this. It does not require an active inclusion policy it can be present within stories when it is required and needed. And so on.

 

This discussion may have started about diverse casting but its not what I have been talking about for most of this discussion.

 

I cannot remember now if I thought it was an issue but the only thing I would possibly have said in a negative light about diverse casting in WoT would have been about an isolated village having a cosmopolitan mix of ethnicity as that is just not how remote pre industrial communities worked. I think i may have had a discussion here in regard to how quickly an isolated community becomes homogeneous. But I cannot honestly remember. And that is not an attack on people of color I would not have cared what ethnicity was used just that it was fairly consistent.

 

 

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

Thank you for elucidating your position. Perhaps now this aside that has nothing to do with WoT can be laid to rest. 

Edited February 4 by HeavyHalfMoonBlade

[Mailman]

  On 2/4/2025 at 7:19 PM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Thank you for elucidating your position. Perhaps now this aside that has nothing to do with WoT can be laid to rest. 

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Well now that I have fully clarified my position do you still consider me to be a bigot as you have pushed for the majority of this discussion.

[Kaleb]

Take it to DMs, please.