Ending of book 4

[Magicana]

I am curious as to why none of the Forsaken were able to sense the struggle between Asmodean and Rand at the end of book 4. I mean the scope they were playing with was basically equal to what Rand was using at the end of book 9 (Minus the Saidar part). Why didn't anyone come to see what was going on?

[Vemynal]

dun dun dun

[Luckers]

We know that Rhuidean was shielded in some manner that even Lanfear didn't understand. Its possible that it had something to do with that.

[Magicana]

However that barrier or whatever it could be called was destroyed mid fight with the two destroying mountain ranges and the like.

[Luckers]

Yet since it seemingly wasn't detected it certainly seems possibly that those shields--which we know dealt with keeping what happened within Rhuidean obscure, based on the Dreamwalkers, Nynaeve, Birgitte and Asmodean--contained that fight, even if doing so destroyed them.

[Tenshin_Xo]

The shield/mist wall was still in the process of breaking up after thier 'encounter'. Enough of it may have still been active to at least limit the effects of Saidin.

[wvlr]

I am curious as to why none of the Forsaken were able to sense the struggle between Asmodean and Rand at the end of book 4. I mean the scope they were playing with was basically equal to what Rand was using at the end of book 9 (Minus the Saidar part). Why didn't anyone come to see what was going on?

 

I don't remember seeing anything that would say that they did not sense it. We do not have all that many Forsaken POVs and those do not mention it - sure, but that could be purely because they have other things on their minds at the time.

 

Remember, most of the Forsaken would have prefered to stay away from the Cleansing, but were given direct orders to be there or else. At least with the Cleansing they knew it was coming and could prepare mentally and try to think of some stratagy. Only one was foolish enough to disobey.

 

It is extreemly dangerous/foolish to fight someone who has a bigger weapon than you do. Such as a man with a knife going up against a man with a sword. When Rand is handling all that Power it would be more like a knife going up against a Nuc AND being completely unprepared. Much better to try to wait until the man put the sword(Power) down and try to catch him by suprise.

[Luckers]

Actually we do, the Forsaken react with startlement when they hear that Rand has the Choedan Kal, we have direct thoughts from Demandred stating that, so we know it wasn't just a show. No other sa'angreal would be able to draw that much power. Had they felt it, they would have known that it was the Choedan Kal, and given that it was in Rhuidean...

[Jaric Mondoran]

I don't specifically recall passages that refer to the effect of Rhuidean on channelling, but it was referred to alongside the stedding as places which can't be entered in TAR. I wouldn't be surprised if the effects of channelling were masked in some way, perhaps concealing the impression of saidar and saidin used inside the city rather than eliminating awareness of the Power entirely.

 

As Luckers said I think it's about as certain as we can be that the male Forsaken didn't feel a whisper of what went on, so something like this is one of the only plausible explanations.

[wvlr]

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I can not find any flaw in that argument, so I must conceed that you are correct.