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Brytac
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Hi all.

 

Finally got round to reading the first book after being advised to read it about....20 years ago hehe.

 

I enjoyed the book a lot and I am going to post a few points which may seem like I am trying to be ultra critical, I am not but I do not understand a large portion of the ending of Eye of the World.  For reference, I will certainly go on and read book 2.

 

Ok, my confusion comes from the book being a detailed story of a long adventure, then all of a sudden as they go back outside at the eye of the world, it kinda feels like the writer runs out of energy?

 

All of a sudden Rand vanishes and appears in a battle (is this the battle of Tarwins Gap?...but didnt they say they didnt fight later in the book?)  It just felt like he had run out of pages so 'Rand just appeared' there.

 

Then to cap it off, boom, he appears with Bealzemon (spelling) and also fights with him out of nowhere?

 

 

Can anyone explain a bit more, did I read it right and not quite catch something?(perfectly possible).  

 

Thanks for any clarification/opinion and apologies if its been cover a thousand times.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Brytac said:

All of a sudden Rand vanishes and appears in a battle (is this the battle of Tarwins Gap?...but didnt they say they didnt fight later in the book?)  It just felt like he had run out of pages so 'Rand just appeared' there

Yes it is the battle of Tarvin Gap. They did fight in a sense. Lord Agelmar says they exchange some blows but not started the full battle. The forces of the dark one in that battlfield is immense so one charge will broke the Shienar lines. At that moment "Rand just appeared" there. It is weird it is sudden and unexpected. All those are true but "how" and "why" are spoilers. (Or we can say "Wheel weaves as the wheel wills." 😄 )

First issue is this is the first book of 14 books you musnt expect some big long battle or some big explained reveal. They just began the journey and this is the first stop. Not even a major stop.

Second issue is we see most of the events from 3 uneducated young man. We as readers dont know anything more than those farmboys. We will learn much more with every book. After you finish all books and look back to those last chapters of the first book. Oh my god. Lots of thigs happening lots of reveals lots of theories. It is sudden but maybe there are more things in those 50 pages than rest of the first book. But like Rand like other emonds fielders you dont have the knowledge to understand those events. 

Third issue is looking the big picture. After meeting in Caemlyn there is a big urgency on the group. They need to be at "eye of the world" as soon as possible. They rush to the ways risking insanity and death. They rest just one night and runnig again to the blight which is like heart of the dark ones rule. You must look all those rush as one big event. If you look that way this is a long final for the first book. 

Basicly what i am saying is this is Robert Jordan s style in the end. As you read you will get used to it i hope. 

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Still there’s random points in story that just happen I find and I think that was odd and I’m on book six lol

 

It’s starting to build now though so it’s getting better 

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If Jordan had taken 5 % from Rand and Mat's singing for their supper, and allocated it toward the ending push, it would have made a significant difference. I'm on my second reread of the series and while I do see some very deep foreshadowings, the ending pacing is definitely jarring compared the the leisurely and flowery descriptions for much the book.

 

And it does feel like Jordan ran up against a deadline or page limit... and didn't want to, or it wasn't feasible, or he lacked the experience and skill at the time, or didn't have a clear picture enough direction, to revise it properly.

 

I used to compete in weekly writing contests, and sometimes I'd start off amazing, then get stuck or busy, and then would have to finish the piece in 2 hours. 

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I do wish there weren’t so many characters whitecloaks and Mogase is she working with them or been caught by them I’m bit confused 

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I find it quite odd that Susians assembled group of Aeal sedi wouldn’t support Rand anyway without seeking out a strange bowl that can change whether it’s all very baffling Surely it’s better to support Rand than Edith sorry about the spelling of names

 

I don’t know what to think of this story still but I will carry on 

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The EotW is a bit of an avalanche at the end, and Rand himself doesn't understand exactly what's happening or what he's doing, so it's all very vague. It'll be easier to go back and explain after you read a few more books, which I know is not a small ask. I will say Jordan's writing steps up a notch for the second book, and he's still settling into this massive world he's constructing. Also, the first three books were originally envisioned as just being the first book of a trilogy. It expanded in the telling.

 

If you want a breakdown of what he's doing, we can provide it, but he's doing things intuitively that will get more explanation later. Let me know and I'll explain a few technical details.

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13 hours ago, Agitel said:

The EotW is a bit of an avalanche at the end, and Rand himself doesn't understand exactly what's happening or what he's doing, so it's all very vague. It'll be easier to go back and explain after you read a few more books, which I know is not a small ask. I will say Jordan's writing steps up a notch for the second book, and he's still settling into this massive world he's constructing. Also, the first three books were originally envisioned as just being the first book of a trilogy. It expanded in the telling.

 

If you want a breakdown of what he's doing, we can provide it, but he's doing things intuitively that will get more explanation later. Let me know and I'll explain a few technical details.

Thanks for your help So Egwene she’s a dreamwalker meaning she can enter into anyone’s dream or tell someone’s future is that right where Nyeve and Eylane can enter the dream world but can only walk around and tansfer to different places is that right

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