DM Will Likely Crash During My Game Mafia - Game thread! [STANDARD]

Zander? · July 1, 2018

On 21/06/2018 at 9:40 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

Zander, if you had to pick between Darthe and DPR, which do you think is more likely to be scum and why?

I know hindsight is 20 20 but I'm willing to bet there's even more of these types of post are littered through the thread.

On 21/06/2018 at 11:34 PM, Aquilla said:

I like this, for multiple reasons.

This was in ref to a post from me please remember yout general reads and feels throughout the game.

On 22/06/2018 at 1:06 AM, TrippedOnReality said:

Not feeling great about DPR. Still pretty null on you, but I haven't disagreed with you on anything you've said so far so that's probably ~good.

Post with a lot of words to say little. Scum love to hide in posts like these.

Zander? · July 1, 2018

@Aquilla

It's Canada Day here man..not sure if I'm gonna have time to reread the game.

I'm TOWN ask me any questions you want man. But this on you. I'm holding my vote till you tell me but if you don't tell me I'll obv have to drop it before DL.

Zander? · July 1, 2018

On 22/06/2018 at 1:16 AM, Aquilla said:

Honestly the read I'm most comfortable with is Zander town, but I don't think I need to convince you on that.

Again man

On 22/06/2018 at 1:24 AM, Andrej said:

Yeah, Z looks fine so far.

Tripped is a really good Townie but I haven’t seen her scum before. My expectations are ~high because of that but it might not be fair either. I’m not bothered by her though.

I don’t mind the take on the other ladies. I’m curious about Sooh’s answer to my question.

Ajs take on Tripp and I.

On 22/06/2018 at 12:27 PM, BFG said:

Ok read through, finding it difficult to find reads I'm confident in

DPR

Aquilla

ToR?

AJ

Zander?

Darthe/Krak/Sooh

DPR has more depth to his reads, focusing on mechanics is ~eh but his last scum game was "Dice is scum because of X" (unless I missed segments skimming for votes) and

while I disagree with the arguments he's making there's depth to them

From his reads list the only one that stood out was Aquilla, most of the points made seem to be negative but he's reading him town

Aquilla feels more engaged than his scum game

TOR, AJ and Zander all seem fine, ToRs caution seems good and I think is more likely to stand out if mafia, I can believe Zanders paranoia, but miss the meta reads, need to follow that exchange with Sooh again

Darthe has been ~loud, but nothing in a way that seems AI, and I don't recall much from Sooh or Krak

In general the game still feels fairly superficial :/

I dislike Darthes mechanics suggestion, mostly because I disagree that much can be learned from superficial pressure (although in this case it does help with reading dpr so lolme?)

QFR

Aquilla · July 1, 2018

I have less time than I thought I would this morning, but I should make eod by 30-45 minutes unless work goes funky. I am leaning towards voting Tripped.

Tripped if you're town, you need to show why Zander is mafia.

Zander if you're town, keep it up, looks good so far.

TrippedOnReality · July 1, 2018

On 6/22/2018 at 7:34 AM, Zanatron said:

The lack of BFG IIT is both saddening and alarming.....

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On 6/22/2018 at 8:06 AM, BFG said:

What is this thread

On 6/22/2018 at 8:07 AM, BFG said:

Apologies for my absence yesterday, technical difficulties :/

Reading through now<3

On 6/22/2018 at 8:07 AM, BFG said:

:(

On 6/22/2018 at 8:15 AM, Zanatron said:

On 6/22/2018 at 9:36 AM, Darthe said:

It's BFG Krak.

Can y'all concede plz? I'm not even curious about this.

On 6/22/2018 at 9:42 AM, Zanatron said:

Every time Darthe agrees with me or me him, he's usually Scum but I kinda feel the same irt BFG.....

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On 6/22/2018 at 9:44 AM, Sooh said:

Vote: BFG

I need more! I'm sorry if it's due to time constraints, and you have until EOD to convince me otherwise, but currently, that's where I'm at.

On 6/22/2018 at 10:27 AM, BFG said:

Ok read through, finding it difficult to find reads I'm confident in

DPR

Aquilla

ToR?

AJ

Zander?

Darthe/Krak/Sooh

DPR has more depth to his reads, focusing on mechanics is ~eh but his last scum game was "Dice is scum because of X" (unless I missed segments skimming for votes) and

while I disagree with the arguments he's making there's depth to them

From his reads list the only one that stood out was Aquilla, most of the points made seem to be negative but he's reading him town

Aquilla feels more engaged than his scum game

TOR, AJ and Zander all seem fine, ToRs caution seems good and I think is more likely to stand out if mafia, I can believe Zanders paranoia, but miss the meta reads, need to follow that exchange with Sooh again

Darthe has been ~loud, but nothing in a way that seems AI, and I don't recall much from Sooh or Krak

In general the game still feels fairly superficial :/

I dislike Darthes mechanics suggestion, mostly because I disagree that much can be learned from superficial pressure (although in this case it does help with reading dpr so lolme?)

On 6/22/2018 at 10:50 AM, Zanatron said:

Im nopt seeing what I recall at least from Town!BFG and its making me sadface.gif.

It interesting we both feel exactly the opposite about DPR this game as I feel his back and forth with Darthe's OP was very similar to Scum!DPR's approach to Dice last game and you don't.

Also what reads in particular are you referring to from DPR that have more depth?

On 6/22/2018 at 11:13 AM, BFG said:

It's not the reads, it's the mechanics discussion. Admittedly I skimmed the early game last time, but from what I recall it was literally the same argument "Dice is scum because distracting swear word discussion" that never developed and read more like pointing fingers. Here the argument about darthe mechanics is layered and changing, he's looking outside of the single point (read his thoughts on Aquilla) although I'm not sure why dpr's town reading him based on what was said

On 6/22/2018 at 11:27 AM, Zanatron said:

On 6/22/2018 at 11:36 AM, BFG said:

Lol, knew this was coming xD

"More depth to his posts" instead of "reads" is a better description of my general thoughts

On 6/22/2018 at 11:55 AM, Zanatron said:

Then why did you mention liking his reads??!?!?

See that makes it feel like youre trying to manufacture a read on DPR then it coming organically.

TBF I've not hated your recent posting but still not seeing the normal Town!BFGOAT im used to seeing....sadface.gif

On 6/22/2018 at 12:10 PM, BFG said:

Tbf I don't think I've been easy to read in most games for a year now (unless Chris is playing lol) :(

To me, it's variations of the same thing

I like the layers to his mechanical progression, which is influencing his read on Darthe

I don't think there's any other way to explain though

Increasingly I'm liking the breadth to his thoughts

On 6/22/2018 at 3:43 PM, Zanatron said:

That's a good question. Tbqh

Scum is easier for me. DPR tho admittedly he's come around a tad with his more recent posts and BFG for playing against my recalled Meta on her but I not 100% sold on her being Scum.

Town tbqh Darthe so I'm prolly wrong...hes a skilled player but it's hard to reinvent you're entire Scum in a matter of a couple games. His much more erratic here which is more reminiscent of what I recall from his Town game.

Tripped looked fine so far...nothing really pinging me atp but no Meta to baseline that from so take with a grain of salt.

Sooh I suck at reading so I'm not even gonna assume anything on her till I have some more info to use.

Krak is just FML. I dont know wtf to think I dont remember a lot from him from before other then reading him frustrates me...lol.

AJ not quite what I expect from Town!AJ like just not quite there yet tho his change in style is throwing me off some.

Aquilla has had some good thoughts and others not so much. No Meta to use either.

Too many nulls for my liking.

This is about the only interaction Zander has with BFG. First he is encouraging BFG to participate, just like everyone else was, but then after Sooh votes, he flips the switch and starts accusing her of being scum. But he never votes. Not for or against BFG. He barely voted for BFG at the end of D2. He made this big production of trying to vote. I have a hard time believing Zander doesn't know how to vote that he spends 6 posts trying to figure out out.

Zander? · July 1, 2018

On 22/06/2018 at 12:56 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

Of your bottom 3, is there a pair you see as likely teamed? What about probably never teamed? You kind of glossed over your read on AJ other than that he's probably fine, can you maybe expand on that one a bit more.

This is Trippeds response to BFGs reads list that I quoted. This is a softball question from Scum!Tripped to give her Scummate who hates being Scum and has no WiM (want it more) an opportunity to try and gain some Town equity while subtly liking the reads without Tripped having to commit so she can go either way depending on how BFG is being perceived by the thread.

TrippedOnReality · July 1, 2018

6 minutes ago, Aquilla said:

I have less time than I thought I would this morning, but I should make eod by 30-45 minutes unless work goes funky. I am leaning towards voting Tripped.

Tripped if you're town, you need to show why Zander is mafia.

Zander if you're town, keep it up, looks good so far.

I can't prove Zander is mafia. Objectively I look worse based on interactions with BFG. And Zander barely took any hard stances on anyone other than DPR, which is someone we were all scum reading D1. But that doesn't change the fact that I'm town. Sooh said Zander would bus his partner. I believe that's what happened here. So my vote is where I think it should be. You should put yours where you think it should be, and at the end of the day, if it ends up on me, that loses the game for town 100% of the time.

If you really believe that AJ, Darthe, and Sooh, were all wrong about their read on me, then I don't know what to tell you. If AJ is town reading me that hard, there is no way mafia!me is shooting him N2. I never would have shot Darthe N1 either. I realize that probably means very little to you, but it's the truth.

If you're so far in Zander's pocket, you're not willing to look at everything I did on D1 and D2 and see that I'm town based on my actions and efforts, then there is nothing I can say that will change that.

On a more personal note, I'm going to be fairly annoyed if this is the game that breaks my mislynch streak since I haven't been mislynched in over a year.

Zander? · July 1, 2018

There used to be vote tags here...since the revamp there isn't any and before I used to play on a laptop..it broke now I play on the phone...nice shading attempt tho.

TrippedOnReality · July 1, 2018

Just now, Zanatron said:

There used to be vote tags here...since the revamp there isn't any and before I used to play on a laptop..it broke now I play on the phone...nice shading attempt tho.

Whatever man. This isn't your first game since they broke DM i'm pretty sure.

Zander? · July 1, 2018

On 22/06/2018 at 1:06 PM, BFG said:

I don't think there's a pair in darthe/Sooh/Krak that I think are unlikely paired and I don't look for preflip teams

Darthe scum reading Krak doesn't mean much since I don't see Darthe defending a teammate that's in a general null to scum Poe, besides which he's not actually pushing Krak

AJ I typically actively scum read when I'm reading games he's scum in and I'm not this game, I'm not sure I can articulate why, lazy answer would be tone/gut but I don't think that's really what I read (more accurately it's a read I try not to overthink) and will evaluate with flips

logically I don't think he's out of scum range but that's probably paranoia

Here's what I was just talking about. Tripped trying to cheerlead and lead BFG.

Zander? · July 1, 2018

1 minute ago, TrippedOnReality said:

Whatever man. This isn't your first game since they broke DM i'm pretty sure.

My sec....last game didn't have requirements as in votes must be in red etc...again nice try at shading me. Aslo like the AtE you through at Aquilla about your "mislynch" streak...good thing is even if the streaks true...youre Scum this game so nothing will be broke.

Zander? · July 1, 2018

Second/2nd

TrippedOnReality · July 1, 2018

Just now, Zanatron said:

My sec....last game didn't have requirements as in votes must be in red etc...again nice try at shading me. Aslo like the AtE you through at Aquilla about your "mislynch" streak...good thing is even if the streaks true...youre Scum this game so nothing will be broke.

Again, whatever man. I don't really care at this point. I knew I was going to be the mislynch after Sooh cleared Aquilla and I have better things to do than argue with you over stupid internet games. If I were mafia, I would have just conceded. There is 0% chance mafia!me ever wins this game, and dragging it out is pointless. I'm not scum; I know it, and you know it.

Zander? · July 1, 2018

On 22/06/2018 at 1:19 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

Okay, thank you. You were quick to scum read AJ in the game the three of us played together, and all three of us were town that game. You laying off giving a real read on him here seems different. So while I believe that town!you is likely to scum read scum!AJ, I've also seen you scum read him when both of you have been town.

Way to ride that fence in your BFG read there Tripped...lolololololol

Damnit I should have reread this before....i hate that we can't ISO anymore.

Zander? · July 1, 2018

1 minute ago, TrippedOnReality said:

Again, whatever man. I don't really care at this point. I knew I was going to be the mislynch after Sooh cleared Aquilla and I have better things to do than argue with you over stupid internet games. If I were mafia, I would have just conceded. There is 0% chance mafia!me ever wins this game, and dragging it out is pointless. I'm not scum; I know it, and you know it.

Wow the AtE us strong in you.

Zander? · July 1, 2018

Is

TrippedOnReality · July 1, 2018

Just now, Zanatron said:

Wow the AtE us strong in you.

Good game Zander. I literally do not care at this point.

Zander? · July 1, 2018

1 minute ago, TrippedOnReality said:

Good game Zander. I literally do not care at this point.

It's not your fault you randed Wolf with the player in DM that hates randing Scum the 2nd most on here. You played a strong Scum game your first time here....can't wait to see you Town.

Your Wolf WiM tho will never match my Town!Zander WiM!!!!!!!

TrippedOnReality · July 1, 2018

Just now, Zanatron said:

It's not your fault you randed Wolf with the player in DM that hates randing Scum the 2nd most on here. You played a strong Scum game your first time here....can't wait to see you Town.

Your Wolf WiM tho will never match my Town!Zander WiM!!!!!!!

This is town me. So, you've seen it. And if this is Town!Zander, than we lost because of mechanics, and I'm totally fine with that.

Zander? · July 1, 2018

1 minute ago, TrippedOnReality said:

This is town me. So, you've seen it. And if this is Town!Zander, than we lost because of mechanics, and I'm totally fine with that.

Are you seriously trying to share Aquilla now?!?!!?!?

If he was Scum I'd have been hammered already......lolololololol

Zander? · July 1, 2018

Shade not share

TrippedOnReality · July 1, 2018

1 minute ago, Zanatron said:

Are you seriously trying to share Aquilla now?!?!!?!?

If he was Scum I'd have been hammered already......lolololololol

Just now, Zanatron said:

Shade not share

No. I'm saying if there is some world where you are town, then it has to be Aquilla. It's math, not shade. And for the love of all that is good, for the like 8th time, there is no hammer, only deadline.

Zander? · July 1, 2018

On 22/06/2018 at 1:31 PM, BFG said:

Lol, I'm not claiming a perfect reading ability<3 and to be clear it's generally dead thread me (as in spectator not killed) that scum reads scum AJ, I'm not sure the last game he was scum against me

Right now I don't think he's out of scum range, but I don't actively feel bad

On 22/06/2018 at 2:42 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

That's fair. And I'm not expecting you to have perfect reads. It was more comment on the fact that you had a read on AJ fairly early last game, even if it was incorrect. Here you're not really giving a read on him. I mostly wondered what was different from your POV.

More the same.

Zander? · July 1, 2018

7 minutes ago, TrippedOnReality said:

No. I'm saying if there is some world where you are town, then it has to be Aquilla. It's math, not shade. And for the love of all that is good, for the like 8th time, there is no hammer, only deadline.

That rule isn't normally in effect for final 3 I thought...but maybe not.

@Clovdyx

@Lizabeth

TrippedOnReality · July 1, 2018

Just now, Zanatron said:

That rule isn't normally in effect for final 3 I thought...but maybe not.

@Clovdyx

@Lizabeth

They already clarified once that it's deadline one.

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