RAGNAROK AVERTED - TOWN WINS (Including EP)

[bgrishinko]

1 minute ago, Lenlo said:

Your really dont wanna claim Sk-turned-town BG. Not with me in this game. Your shooting up my list.

 

I'd really, really like to be able to say this. 

[Lenlo]

Guys, can I convince you to vote BG? Or like, can we consider him tomorrow after Kat maybe? 

[Gabriel Kross]

Just now, Lenlo said:

Guys, can I convince you to vote BG? Or like, can we consider him tomorrow after Kat maybe? 

I don't think Kat is a good lynch target.

[bgrishinko]

I would also like to hear from a bunch of people who haven't really spoken today.

[bgrishinko]

Gathering my thoughts. This is info we are pretty confident on I think.

 

Eternal Phoenix - Roleblock... blocker?

Dicetosser1 - Killed N1 - Town Archangel

BGrishinko

Katiora - hulk hints, attempted N1 death and saved.

Shad -?

Amegakure - Dead D2 Twilight, probably redirect from Kat? - Self Fulfilling Prophet

Sooh - Vote restriction?

Duk3star - Absorber

Hallia - ?

DreadPirateRoberts - ?

Andrej - ?

Leyrann - ?

Nynaeve - Triple Voter

Lenlo - Tracker

Ed2Funy 1.0 - Lynched D1 - Not so Innocent Child (Cop)

Ed2Funy 2.0 - Brought to life D2, something about the veil changing people. 

Krakalakachkn - Innocent Child

 

Other notes....
Vote Stealer

Shad didn't visit anyone
Roleblocker Exits most likely

 

Let me know if I missed something.

 

I did not try to kill Kat and I did not save her. So that leaves the 2 of the ?? as the perpetrators of that.

[Andrej]

EP is an enabler of some sort

 

Hallia claimed RBer

[bgrishinko]

Thanks.

 

That gives us AJ, Shad, DPR, and Hallia as possible pool for Vig and Redirector going on the information we have right now.

[bgrishinko]

Darg, not Hallia, Leyrann.

[bgrishinko]

I think Leyrann is the Vig based on her immediate out of the gate vote for Kat.

 

Shad, DPR, AJ...

Which one you all be redirecting the kill off Kat?

[Andrej]

I’ll put it this way.

 

I have strong reason to believe that the kill wasn’t redirected and that Amega dying was a direct consequence of visiting Kat.

[bgrishinko]

So Kat = Hulk with Hulk Smash powers most likely then. Likely limited use. So maybe no evidence of a redirector or vig kill as I assumed. Whether townie move or not is undecided since a majority of people have visitation powers.

[bgrishinko]

Waiiit.... no... I don't think that lines up. Somebody tried to kill Kat for certain. It was stated so in Twilight. She was dying. So some Night power tried to kill her and failed. Amega's power wasn't one of killing. So I'm not so sure about that conclusion.

 

[bgrishinko]

What makes you so certain AJ?

 

That theory doesn't hold water.

[Gabriel Kross]

38 minutes ago, bgrishinko said:

Gathering my thoughts. This is info we are pretty confident on I think.

 

Eternal Phoenix - Roleblock... blocker?

Dicetosser1 - Killed N1 - Town Archangel

BGrishinko

Katiora - hulk hints, attempted N1 death and saved.

Shad -?

Amegakure - Dead D2 Twilight, probably redirect from Kat? - Self Fulfilling Prophet

Sooh - Vote restriction?

Duk3star - Absorber

Hallia - ?

DreadPirateRoberts - ?

Andrej - ?

Leyrann - ?

Nynaeve - Triple Voter

Lenlo - Tracker

Ed2Funy 1.0 - Lynched D1 - Not so Innocent Child (Cop)

Ed2Funy 2.0 - Brought to life D2, something about the veil changing people. 

Krakalakachkn - Innocent Child

 

Other notes....
Vote Stealer

Shad didn't visit anyone
Roleblocker Exits most likely

 

Let me know if I missed something.

 

I did not try to kill Kat and I did not save her. So that leaves the 2 of the ?? as the perpetrators of that.

Let me put it to you this way I'm pretty sure atleast half of what is on here is false or atleast only half true. What you have listed for me is way far off, yet you listed RB as "likely" after labling me as it...

Also, how did you get Duke's right but not mine since what he absorbed was mine...

21 minutes ago, Andrej said:

I’ll put it this way.

 

I have strong reason to believe that the kill wasn’t redirected and that Amega dying was a direct consequence of visiting Kat.

I have an even stronger reason to say you're wrong. The same thing that nullified my case nullifies your theory. The anounced death of Kat THEN the death of Ame instead. We know Ame didn't "visit" Kat either so that also disproves your theory. Ame's ability had nothing to do with visiting he was a kind of lie detector.

[bgrishinko]

3 minutes ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

Let me put it to you this way I'm pretty sure atleast half of what is on here is false or atleast only half true. What you have listed for me is way far off, yet you listed RB as "likely" after labling me as it...

I said you were a roleblock blocker. Which is basically an enabler as AJ pointed out. I did not list you as RB.

How is half of it wrong? I was just trying to compile facts.

 

[bgrishinko]

Ugh..

5 minutes ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

Let me put it to you this way I'm pretty sure atleast half of what is on here is false or atleast only half true. What you have listed for me is way far off, yet you listed RB as "likely" after labling me as it...

I said you were a roleblock blocker. Which is basically an enabler as AJ pointed out. I did not list you as RB.

How is half of it wrong? I was just trying to compile facts.

[Gabriel Kross]

Just gonna copy paste the relevant data

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Eternal Phoenix - Roleblock... blocker?

wrong on multiple levels\

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Other notes....
Vote Stealer

Shad didn't visit anyone
Roleblocker Exits most likely

 

notes 2 and 3 are bad for reason:
2: Lenlo said he got no result, not that Shad didn't visit anyone. huge difference.

3: Hallia fully claimed blocker, you labled me as blocker and yet this is in "other notes" why?

 

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I did not try to kill Kat and I did not save her. So that leaves the 2 of the ?? as the perpetrators of that. 

 

This assumes people only have 1 ability. Dice's flip alone reveals that is not guranteed, on top of other hints.

[Gabriel Kross]

6 minutes ago, bgrishinko said:

Ugh..

I said you were a roleblock blocker. Which is basically an enabler as AJ pointed out. I did not list you as RB.

How is half of it wrong? I was just trying to compile facts.

I am not a "roleblock blocker" either so it is still wrong. What I do doesn't work that way, it works in a very unique way.

[bgrishinko]

Just looking at the information as I have it. Anyway, I asked for clarification if I missed anything. AJ already corrected stuff. Move along.

[Andrej]

I want to hear from Kat but I have personal knowledge to suspect Amega died by visiting her.

 

thats all I’m gonna say about it for now.

[Gabriel Kross]

1 minute ago, bgrishinko said:

Just looking at the information as I have it. Anyway, I asked for clarification if I missed anything. AJ already corrected stuff. Move along.

the frick? You addressed only a single point of mine then blow off the others after I did what you asked: "let me know if I missed something"... I don't think that's how this works.

[Gabriel Kross]

Just now, Andrej said:

I want to hear from Kat but I have personal knowledge to suspect Amega died by visiting her.

 

thats all I’m gonna say about it for now.

Ame can't visit people, if you pursue that logic knowing what Ame's ability was I'll start running a case up on you.

[Andrej]

1 minute ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

Ame can't visit people, if you pursue that logic knowing what Ame's ability was I'll start running a case up on you.

 

Be my guest lol

[Gabriel Kross]

Here, incase you didn't read it in the flip. Specifically read the underlined.

Head of Mimir - Amegakure, Town Self Fulfilling Prophet has been found dead.   

Did I ever tell you about the time I took my body fishin’?  Aye, t’was sush a peaceful era back when I still had appendages, but there’s no use cryin’ over the past lads.  Course, cryin’s one of the few things I can still do… So what was it ye wanted to knoh? 

  

Abilities: 

Self fulfilling prophet: Each night you can ask me one question that isn't alignment indicative/impacting that can be answered with a yes or a no.   
 

[Gabriel Kross]

Ame was a modified lie detector that ONLY interacted with mod, Ame did not visit anyone. If asking a question about a player counts as visiting then that is pretty garbage imo.