RAGNAROK AVERTED - TOWN WINS (Including EP)

[Andrej]

Anyway that’s all I really have to say about that. If I feel up to it I might scroll back to reread when she started posting today but she’s not an immediate suspect for me.

 

i wanna clear the board up of dead weight and let some NAs play out to start piecing the game together

[Gabriel Kross]

2 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

 

It is a common occurance for people to ask questions in a game   like whats this guys meta   or have you played with this person or whatever and get answered by someone in thread. theres no need to double check some of those answers like has he played here before because when you have a dozen people that have been playing together for years and years noones going to lie about that stuff because the others will call bullshanks. And you run the risk of insulting the person who bothered to try to help you. Which i was a bit.

 

 

then theres the fact that he tried to turn it into a game thing. "it could be a gambit". Give me a break. NOONE would pull that sort of gambit when the entire rest of the roster just about can refute it.

 

 

my posts are really a mixture of disbelief and incredulity and pointing out that   if in this situation where theres a bunch of people to verify   he doesnt believe what hes told   then how can he believe what he reads on a spreadsheet that can only be edited by one person??

 

its just logic and common sense

"No one would pull that sort of gambit" yet it's the sorts of gambits I have actually pulled. 

 

I'm not known for traditional play, but I am also not one to ever just accept info from people at face value I like to double/triple confirm. It's called covering my own a** let's say on the off chance, you and ed were on a team together and you decided to take the risk to ease suspicion on ed a bit. Remember I don't know who has been active in games recently so I don't know who can or can not call bs on it. So it's smarter of me to confirm myself. The thing you don't get about the difference between your word and shad's sheet is shad put that whole sheet together for a purpose, compromising its integrity for a minor point in a game is not efficient and will undo whatever purpose he originally had for putting it together. Data tracking is something I am very familliar with I did that in the military, and in end game guilds in MMOs those stats are more annoying to adjust than you understand.

[Krakalakachkn]

Vote Count

 

Shad: Dice

Sooh: Krak, EP

Ed2funy: AJ, Shad

Kat: Sooh

Hallia: Duke

 

Not Voting (9/16)

BG, Kat, Amega, Hally, Let, Nyn, Len, Ed, DPR

 

~19 hours of day remain.

 

 

I believe this is where we are.

[Krakalakachkn]

Nyn - why all that posting and no voting?

 

Ley, Ed, Mega(seeds) - come contribute

 

Kat - gun to your head, who do you shoot with the other gun in your hand but that's not the person holding the gun to your head?

 

DPR - are you done squinting?

 

BG - why am I suspicious of you?

 

 

[Gabriel Kross]

4 minutes ago, Andrej said:

Let’s follow that line, which is a pretty huge stretch btw.

 

how did that convo play out in the Mafia QT?

 

she said she was caught up and later that she skimmed over stuff to get to the current page. I don’t see the issue.

 

Tonally she’s fine. She could be more impactful but I really don’t have an issue where things stand.

the theoretical conversation would have gone like this:

"Someone suggested no lynch there was backlash that is all"

 

That is what Sooh came in saying stuff like there was backlash at the no lynch... I didn't really say much about the no lynch til others redirected to it. Maybe I need to go back and look at who did. My case on Lenlo wasn't so much about the no lynch, I actually originally built my case around the facts that he thought it was important to specify he read the rules this game like ?! why wouldn't you read the rules? That and the weird way he used the "you guys have dubbed me untrustworthy for the last 5 years" to one of the few people who wouldn't really know what happened in the last five years. I'ma try to attach that quote, I went back and found it.
 

On 5/9/2018 at 8:42 PM, Eternal Phoenix said:

His random statement about reading the rules felt off to me, when I did it after him, it was to point to a mechanic that people were ignoring by "voting" Then I quoted the actual rules and announcements associated, however, Lenlo really had no purpose to say it. Then there was his statement to me asking when in the last 5 years he hasn't seemed off or w/e the wording was, I'm pretty sure everyone here is aware of just how little I've played in the last 5 years, so citing a history of play as reference to the one person who wouldn't have knowleged of it is pretty sketchy.

 

[Andrej]

21 hours ago, Sooh said:

Alright. All caught up. I must have skimmed the part where somebody (Lenlo?) advocated for no lynch, but I agree with what most people have said that it's just giving the mafia advantages.

 

Yeah, not seeing the problem here. She admits to skimming but makes a comment in relation to what you’re pushing Lenlo for.

 

Like some people literally laughed when you got done. Don’t take it so hard that maybe Sooh wasn’t enthralled by it either.

 

If Sooh is scum this isn’t the reason why.

[Gabriel Kross]

Oh, okay, I brought up the no lynch two posts later so it is my fault it was brought up, but not a part of the original case.

[Gabriel Kross]

1 minute ago, Andrej said:

 

Yeah, not seeing the problem here. She admits to skimming but makes a comment in relation to what you’re pushing Lenlo for.

 

Like some people literally laughed when you got done. Don’t take it so hard that maybe Sooh wasn’t enthralled by it either.

 

If Sooh is scum this isn’t the reason why.

The original reason wasn't the no lynch though that is the thing I'm trying to make people see. Sure I brought it up, but the reason was the specification that he read the rules.

[Andrej]

4 minutes ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

The original reason wasn't the no lynch though that is the thing I'm trying to make people see. Sure I brought it up, but the reason was the specification that he read the rules.

 

we really don’t need to rehash this. I will agree to disagree

[Duk3star]

 

Reading the rules is NAI? 

[Gabriel Kross]

Just now, Duk3star said:

 

Reading the rules is NAI? 

but feeling the need to say it with no purpose is a bit weird, I did it in response as a joke to actually reveal to people they were voting in a no-vote phase.

[Andrej]

Just now, Duk3star said:

Reading the rules is NAI? 

 

In a weird, lulzy meta stupid kinda way I said to myself

 

”Lenlo cares? Must be scum”

[Andrej]

But Lenlo claimed Tracker so that’s all moot imo until we have more info.

 

I’m not going there today.

[Gabriel Kross]

1 minute ago, Andrej said:

But Lenlo claimed Tracker so that’s all moot imo until we have more info.

 

I’m not going there today.

I'm not voting there atm either, I'm voting Sooh, though for other reasons.

[Duk3star]

2 minutes ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

but feeling the need to say it with no purpose is a bit weird, I did it in response as a joke to actually reveal to people they were voting in a no-vote phase.

 

Oh I see, the thought is that they are scummy for bringing up the fact that they read the rules. Not the act of reading the rules itself. 

[Duk3star]

5 minutes ago, Andrej said:

But Lenlo claimed Tracker so that’s all moot imo until we have more info.

 

I’m not going there today.

 

Why can't he claim tracker as mafia? 

[Gabriel Kross]

Just now, Duk3star said:

 

Why can't he claim tracker as mafia? 

he can, but there is no way to prove one way or the other atm.

[Andrej]

Just now, Duk3star said:

Why can't he claim tracker as mafia? 

 

He easily could. I’ve touched on this already

 

if I had actual concerns with him outside of my own amusing soul read of his intro then maybe I’d pursue it more. His claim isn’t the sole saving grace here.

[Andrej]

Krak reminded me of BG.

 

hes a dude I’d like to question a little more

[Duk3star]

5 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

He easily could. I’ve touched on this already

 

if I had actual concerns with him outside of my own amusing soul read of his intro then maybe I’d pursue it more. His claim isn’t the sole saving grace here.

 

What else is the saving grace then? I've seen you reference the tracker claim a lot. I understand not lynching somebody who claimed PR. Except apparently this game is role madness so having a role shouldn't mean anything. Especially with when and how he claimed. 

[Duk3star]

8 minutes ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

he can, but there is no way to prove one way or the other atm.

 

So we shouldn't use that as a reason to take him off the table today. 

[Gabriel Kross]

1 minute ago, Duk3star said:

 

What else is the saving grace then? I've seen you reference the tracker claim a lot. I understand not lynching somebody who claimed PR. Except apparently this game is role madness so having a role shouldn't mean anything. Especially with when and how he claimed. 

 

1 minute ago, Duk3star said:

 

So we shouldn't use that as a reason to take him off the table today. 

Why are you pushing so hard on Lenlo? I don't think you've ever given a reason. 

[Duk3star]

1 minute ago, Eternal Phoenix said:

 

Why are you pushing so hard on Lenlo? I don't think you've ever given a reason. 

 

I did, I actually got called a tryhard and the push was dismissed. I'm not sold he's mafia, I just think clearing him for claiming tracker is not great. 

[Gabriel Kross]

Just now, Duk3star said:

 

I did, I actually got called a tryhard and the push was dismissed. I'm not sold he's mafia, I just think clearing him for claiming tracker is not great. 

quote your reason.

[Andrej]

16 minutes ago, Duk3star said:

What else is the saving grace then? I've seen you reference the tracker claim a lot. I understand not lynching somebody who claimed PR. Except apparently this game is role madness so having a role shouldn't mean anything. Especially with when and how he claimed. 

 

That I don’t find him scummy?

 

the claim read to me like he was annoyed with EP and wanted to get him off his back