PotC Mafia Game - mafia won!!

[Cass]

Cass7 ^ 

[amegakure]

I also have an astrict next to darthe. Eldrick has been trying to solve. He's also not tunneling on anyone which shows patience and a general town vibe for finding the right lynch. 

 

I'm willing to vote somewhere else if the town consensus demands it perhaps bg or Caldar but I'm not a fan of flopping my vote. I've made my case for dice so im gonna have to stick with it for a bit.

[Eldrick4221]

I will probably be going to bed soon.

[amegakure]

well yea you, eldrick and i are probably by far the most active. Then came dice. Its not like i have alot of content to work with. Not sure what you trying to get at there. I cleared eldrick with his engagement of dice. Darthe with his engagement of eldrick and me. And ive just been pretty okay with the way you have been playing so you got a town lean. I dont know what else you want from me. 

[Calder]

17 minutes ago, Eldrick4221 said:

Who ever said it was a threat?

 

I voted you because of your inactivity and not contributing when there's actual content to discuss. Your vote on Cass without an actual reason is further affirming my read to be a good one, even if we excuse the inactivity for RL stuff.

 

Continue to not care about solving. Show others your true colors. I only have one vote, but I have a town full of people that also have one. That, I suppose, you can consider as a threat.

 

Eldrick2 

 

You confuse making posts to appear useful with solving. I don't care about cultivating a useful persona. That doesn't benefit me.

 

I just have to be right when I cast my vote. It's the only part that matters.

[amegakure]

when you say closed off do you mean that im not targeting him anymore or something else? Becuase ive been waiting for him to respond to alot of stuff from all of us in general and im also interested in bg/caldar now. 

 

Getting a little nervous about inactives though. 

 

holy crap i wonder where my post counts at.

[amegakure]

2 minutes ago, Calder said:

 

You confuse making posts to appear useful with solving. I don't care about cultivating a useful persona. That doesn't benefit me.

 

I just have to be right when I cast my vote. It's the only part that matters.

Actually as town you need to convince the rest of town that you're right. Thats what matters. 

[Eldrick4221]

A huge part of being town is getting other townies to see your pov. It's not only about voting correctly, but in getting the right person lynched. That's a team effort.

 

You voted Cass. Great if you think she's scum. Why? Why should others also vote her if she is?

 

This is why I have a problem. You are just throwing your vote out.

 

Eldrick2 

[Calder]

2 minutes ago, amegakure said:

Actually as town you need to convince the rest of town that you're right. Thats what matters. 

 

People that have played with me before know that I do not agree with that sentiment or strategy for a number of reasons.

[Eldrick4221]

4 minutes ago, amegakure said:

holy crap i wonder where my post counts at.

 

I don't think it matters as much for the super long D1.

[amegakure]

2 minutes ago, Calder said:

 

People that have played with me before know that I do not agree with that sentiment or strategy for a number of reasons.

well they are not here. Im not going to follow your blind reasoning. 

[Eldrick4221]

#1 choice to lynch - Scum

#2 choice - town that refuses to help

 

Right now, Calder, you are one of these.

[amegakure]

26 minutes ago, Eldrick4221 said:

 

Fair enough. Time will tell if my read on him is right or not.

 

@amegakure this is about Darthe lol.

 LMAO yea that makes more sense. I was thinking wtf is cass talking about 

[Calder]

Just now, amegakure said:

well they are not here. Im not going to follow your blind reasoning. 

 

And you are free not too. That is a beautiful thing.

[amegakure]

so what do you expect to accomplish

 

[Calder]

3 minutes ago, Eldrick4221 said:

#1 choice to lynch - Scum

#2 choice - town that refuses to help

 

Right now, Calder, you are one of these.

 

#3 Scum voting a teammate. So town would be well served following my vote.

 

#4 Town giving a Day1 hit read that is either right or wrong. Helpfulness unknown until flip.

[Calder]

3 minutes ago, amegakure said:

so what do you expect to accomplish

 

 

Same thing it always accomplishes....getting to give my reads how I want and play how I want.

 

Plus I have never viewed games in general in such a narrow view as if they are standalone. They flow together and impact future games.

 

So if I am ultra over the top helpful to appease the Eldrick types as town it negatively impacts my future Scum endeavors. Makes future games for Calder a pain. And also hurts me in the short term bc I have to focus on looking useful instead of just giving honest opinions in an admittedly scummy tone.

 

The #1 benefit is also that it keeps you alive longer. 

 

 

[Eldrick4221]

#3 is also a reason to vote you

 

And of course the accuracy of the helpfulness is unknown, but it's more accurate than voting on your own and hoping others will follow.

 

But feel free to tie up your vote on a train going nowhere and call it useful.

 

Eldrick2 

[Eldrick4221]

I've played with you before. You were not this bad. This refusal to help is not your norm.

 

And if you want to bring meta into it, you were town when you were helpful.

 

So........

 

Eldrick2 

[Calder]

1 minute ago, Eldrick4221 said:

#3 is also a reason to vote you

 

And of course the accuracy of the helpfulness is unknown, but it's more accurate than voting on your own and hoping others will follow.

 

But feel free to tie up your vote on a train going nowhere and call it useful.

 

Eldrick2 

 

So you think it would be more useful for me to vote a lynch train on a townie bc it's going somewhere instead of someone I say is Scum?

 

That seems sketchy of you.

[Cass]

@Amega - by closed off I mean the way you responded to him after his vote felt forced and  'Omgus much1?' 'You're acting like a child' 'More than happy to leave it there' 'Case closed'. Doesn't feel like you're willing to reconsider.

 

Those early jabs at me about not giving thoughts beyond Dice/Eldrick when I had, and pushing with requests for thoughts that were literally ITT and up to date makes it feel like you were more interested in pushing your case that I'd not given reads/comments rather than actually reading what I'd said.

 

OTOH, you've been responsive and poking elsewhere and I'm back and forth on that. Don't have time to go hunting all the quotes but I appreciate the effort regardless of your alignment.

 

It ruffles me somewhat that your reads/questions to others are in similar directions to my own, but it's complicated by the low input from everyone else.

 

 

@Calder - you're wrong on me. I can't help you see it if you don't give me reasons.

Anyway *cue comments on the wolfy exit* I should also be in bed, and Rich just staged an intervention <.<

 

I'll try and pop in/catch up before DL glgl

[Calder]

Just now, Eldrick4221 said:

I've played with you before. You were not this bad. This refusal to help is not your norm.

 

And if you want to bring meta into it, you were town when you were helpful.

 

So........

 

Eldrick2 

 

I cast my vote. I am not standing on the sidelines. The reason my reputation isn'

[Calder]

Post cut-off on phone (continued):

 

My reputation isn't bad in terms of being helpful bc my reads tend to be pretty good.

 

I also see no real good reasons being given to vote anyone really. So not exactly sure how anyone else is really being helpful either actually.

[Eldrick4221]

Just now, Calder said:

 

So you think it would be more useful for me to vote a lynch train on a townie bc it's going somewhere instead of someone I say is Scum?

 

That seems sketchy of you.

 

No I say either give a useful reason for your vote or stop treating it as a contribution.

 

In case you haven't noticed, you're the only one with Cass on their radar. Your vote is wasted.

 

Eldrick2 

[amegakure]

well i did say i can change if need be just awhile ago, however i am going to stick with my case because i believe it. ive tried to poke when other people pop their heads in. However when is dl? Walking dead dropped and im watching that and an anime and going for some matches on COD before bed. So i can take DL into consideration if i need to consolidate. However im not seeing much else with the amount of people.