PotC Mafia Game - mafia won!!

Cass · February 26, 2018

Cass7 ^

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand Ninja

WB - follow up thoughts?

Eldrick4221 · February 26, 2018

On 2/23/2018 at 6:10 AM, Calder said:

So we are tagging posts now huh. I assume like the Pirate Code it's more of a guideline than actual rules.

3. Calder - Scourge of the Deep Sea, He Who was Named then Promptly Forgotten, The Scum that was Promised.

On 2/23/2018 at 6:17 AM, Calder said:

Against my typical lack of effort early - I have 2 observations:

1. Eldrick - looking pretty townie. Mostly bc of how erratic his posting is. Super inconsistent and lazy tagging of the posts. Gut says Scum Eldrick adheres closer to the rules when advised.

2. Dragoon - felt the need for super early over effort with reads on garbage posting and his tagging is pristine. Dude is dirty Scum.

3. Calder - The Scum that was Promised.

On 2/23/2018 at 6:28 AM, Calder said:

@Eldrick

I was referencing this post. Making a list to say basically nothing. I lean Scum on these posts in early game. Scum feeling more pressure to be useful early.

On 2/23/2018 at 6:41 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

Fair enough. How often are you right with those kind of reads?

Also as to your 'pristine tag' comment, he doesn't have the habit of not doing so the rest of us do, so that's null.

-"It's not opposite day"

On 2/23/2018 at 7:10 AM, Calder said:

I am not going to pass the buck and not even attempt to make reads on new players to the site or even just new players to me. So all the this is "null" b.s. means nothing to me. I don't believe in null anyway since it inherently assumes that players don't react to their meta or intentionally counter it. Each game is unique.

As for how often I am right with this type of read. I would have no idea how to answer that. I don't track any mafia stats or anything.

On 2/23/2018 at 5:20 PM, Calder said:

Omg Lords and Wenches don't all be posting at once.

How am I supposed to keep up with this flurry of game activity. It's too much to handle. I may need a partner to slog through all this reading if this game pace keeps up.

3. Calder - Scum (Immune to Walking the Plank - bc I can swim)

On 2/23/2018 at 5:27 PM, Darthe said:

I have to condense things I'd normally say in several posts in to one :/

Let's start.

Yo eld, relax man. It's D1, and only barely that.

Calder good to see you. I'ma Lynch you this game, I think. you wolfin.

@cass stares

I don't understand all these Australian terms.

Dice this game has 3 Aussies, it looks bad to keep being spammy the one game you could have a conversation.

On 2/23/2018 at 7:11 PM, Calder said:

I'm always wolfin.

Because of mobile limitations, I couldn't add anything before the quotes, had to add spoiler tag after the first one.

Anyway, this is everything from Calder so far. My issue with him isn't the content of his posts (there is some decent stuff there), but that he up and vanished without a word, and hasn't given any input about the meat of the day.

Posts in the spoiler that aren't from him are posts that he quoted.

Eldrick2

Eldrick4221 · February 26, 2018

This spoiler tag $^@%!& is really starting to piss me off.

Eldrick4221 · February 26, 2018

11 minutes ago, Cass said:

Cass7 ^

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand Ninja

WB - follow up thoughts?

Lolololol also ninja'd

Cass · February 26, 2018

18 minutes ago, amegakure said:

Why do scum make any mistakes? I'm not convinced that was really humor. At most bait and what I'm really thinking is it was an excuse to go after me as an easy lynch.

It's not like my comment was panicky or defensive. Yet it was still weird. Ok sure thang. Seemed like he was looking for a reason to suss me either way. I'll address the rest when I'm hone.

@amegakure

How many hours from now/before DL will this be?

Cass7

Eldrick4221 · February 26, 2018

Vote Count

dice (1): Amega

Amega (2): dice, Cass

Calder (2): Eldrick, Dragoon

DL in ~7 hours

amegakure · February 26, 2018

Now I'm cooking. Its almost 8 am here.

Eldrick4221 · February 26, 2018

I'm kinda flipflopping on dice. When I was defending my reasoning for why his actions weren't scummy, it was hard. (It shouldn't be this hard)

They are under the assumption that it was originally humor, which is what he called it. Without that assumption, it's kinda weak. A part of me thinks you might be on to something.

Eldrick4221 · February 26, 2018

Eldrick2

Calder · February 26, 2018

Vote Cass

I actually like how shady Dragoon's vote on me looks. Most Scum players would be wary of making that vote and especially with that awkward timing.

Cass also Scum though sorry to say. Or happy to say I guess. Well happy for town bc Cass will flip scum. Sad for me since Cass is my Scum teammate. But if she has to die so that I can live....well that is an easy trade.

3. Calder

Eldrick4221 · February 26, 2018

5 minutes ago, Calder said:

Vote Cass

I actually like how shady Dragoon's vote on me looks. Most Scum players would be wary of making that vote and especially with that awkward timing.

Cass also Scum though sorry to say. Or happy to say I guess. Well happy for town bc Cass will flip scum. Sad for me since Cass is my Scum teammate. But if she has to die so that I can live....well that is an easy trade.

3. Calder

I...um...what?

Why is Cass scum? If all you're going to say is "because she's my teamate" this is either fluff or a horrible scum tactic.

Either way I'm happy with leaving my vote on you. Contribute or be cut.

Eldrick2

Cass · February 26, 2018

22 hours ago, Cass said:

Beyond what I've already said?

Not yet. Do you expect me to?

Also, what constitutes 'a lot' ?

I'm curious if you've actually paid attention and care or you're just jumping on me now?

Cass7

21 hours ago, Darthe said:

I care a bit, it's a topic involving me and you've carried it for a couple pages. I don't quite know f it's defense of me and you have a town read, or if you're using it to flesh out others reads so you can analyze them, or if you think I'm suspect and wanna get a feel for the room before making a case, or what. Just a lot of Darthe in your posts.

Don't get me wrong, I'm flattered, but I wanna know why I'm the topic.

21 hours ago, Cass said:

1. It's not all about you :P <3

2. I don't really have a read yet

3. I haven't carried the topic I've gave my thoughts and then responded to Amega's question asking for my thoughts.

Do you have thoughts on this?

Things other than this/yourself?

I'll give you updated thoughts after your responses.

Cass7

20 hours ago, Darthe said:

I dunno what you're asking

/split

FWIW the format was probably not the best, but by

"Do you have thoughts on this?

Things other than this/yourself?"

I was essentially after your reactions to my replies:

("2. I don't really have a read yet
3. I haven't carried the topic I gave my thoughts and then responded to Amega's question asking for my thoughts

.")

And your thoughts on Amega/our interaction/anyone else.

Trying to figure out why you come in saying I'm 'carrying the topic' of you, rather than focusing on the fact that Amega twice asked me for reads on specific players, right after I'd given them and before those players had posted anything further ITT.

Cass · February 26, 2018

Cass7 ^

Cass · February 26, 2018

14 minutes ago, Calder said:

Vote Cass

I actually like how shady Dragoon's vote on me looks. Most Scum players would be wary of making that vote and especially with that awkward timing.

Cass also Scum though sorry to say. Or happy to say I guess. Well happy for town bc Cass will flip scum. Sad for me since Cass is my Scum teammate. But if she has to die so that I can live....well that is an easy trade.

3. Calder

I agree with you on Rich, but definitely not me.

Raisins beyond possi-OMGUS?

Eldrick4221 · February 26, 2018

Vote Count

dice (1): Amega

Amega (2): dice, Cass

Calder (2): Eldrick, Dragoon

Cass (1): Calder

DL in ~6 hours

amegakure · February 26, 2018

3 hours ago, Eldrick4221 said:

Ok but I just don't understand the scum motive behind it. Why would scum intentionally go after something small like that to just drop it later? It's not like he had to back out or call it humor.

Yes it feels like backpedaling, but is it scummy?

Also how was it defensive? There was the semantics thing between the 2 of us, but that's null in retrospect.

The OMGUS was gross, but not out of nowhere. He was already on your case.

Eldrick2

I feel like i covered most of this but to be clear

back pedaling = defensive.

Omgus = gross defensive

Not backing out or calling it humour would have left him defending something very weak. He tripped on his way back.

I generally equate back pedaling as defensive. The question you have to ask is wether you think it was that or just clarification. We figure that out and we find out if dice is scum imo.

I think i covered the motive above.

Calder · February 26, 2018

26 minutes ago, Eldrick4221 said:

I...um...what?

Why is Cass scum? If all you're going to say is "because she's my teamate" this is either fluff or a horrible scum tactic.

Either way I'm happy with leaving my vote on you. Contribute or be cut.

Eldrick2

Oh no. What are you gonna do? Vote me a 2nd time.....

Not a very effective threat.

3. Calder

Cass · February 26, 2018

9 hours ago, Eldrick4221 said:

@Cass Since you've asked Amega about his read on Darthe, and pointing out he's still in his scum meta, I've been mulling over my own read to pin down why I think he's town.

First of all, he debunked the reason I had to think he was scum. That bumped him back to null.

Then I thought about the effort he took into understanding my pov. While scum can do this, yes, it is seen more often by town. So he's on the town side of things for me. Not as strongly as Amega's read.

There have been a couple games where I figured out he was scum early on. Not getting the vibe here. I figured out he was town last game from the two pages I popped in and read.

I feel like he's town here.

Eldrick2

Yeah I'm fine with this.

When I say he's still within in his scum meta that doesn't mean I've locked him scum, just that I'm not moving him towards Town/out of null yet. The way I read his replies to you could easily have been more about moving the focus off himself than understanding your POV.

I've been duped/seen him at work too many times I guess.

Cass7

Calder · February 26, 2018

20 minutes ago, Cass said:

I agree with you on Rich, but definitely not me.

Raisins beyond possi-OMGUS?

I already explained my read to you in Scum chat. Do we have to go over this again?

3. Calder

Calder · February 26, 2018

Reasons Cass is scum:

1. She randed Scum

2. See #1 and trust in your buddy Calder

3. ................

4. Profit

3. Calder

amegakure · February 26, 2018

Can we vote someone for not being funny/helpful?

Eldrick4221 · February 26, 2018

7 minutes ago, Calder said:

Oh no. What are you gonna do? Vote me a 2nd time.....

Not a very effective threat.

3. Calder

Who ever said it was a threat?

I voted you because of your inactivity and not contributing when there's actual content to discuss. Your vote on Cass without an actual reason is further affirming my read to be a good one, even if we excuse the inactivity for RL stuff.

Continue to not care about solving. Show others your true colors. I only have one vote, but I have a town full of people that also have one. That, I suppose, you can consider as a threat.

Eldrick2

amegakure · February 26, 2018

10 minutes ago, Cass said:

Yeah I'm fine with this.

When I say he's still within in his scum meta that doesn't mean I've locked him scum, just that I'm not moving him towards Town/out of null yet. The way I read his replies to you could easily have been more about moving the focus off himself than understanding your POV.

I've been duped/seen him at work too many times I guess.

Cass7

I feel like you have a higher opinion of me than i do. Am i the same Amega? What is going on!!!

Eldrick4221 · February 26, 2018

13 minutes ago, Cass said:

Yeah I'm fine with this.

When I say he's still within in his scum meta that doesn't mean I've locked him scum, just that I'm not moving him towards Town/out of null yet. The way I read his replies to you could easily have been more about moving the focus off himself than understanding your POV.

I've been duped/seen him at work too many times I guess.

Cass7

Fair enough. Time will tell if my read on him is right or not.

@amegakure this is about Darthe lol.

Cass · February 26, 2018

8 minutes ago, amegakure said:

I feel like i covered most of this but to be clear

back pedaling = defensive.

Omgus = gross defensive

Not backing out or calling it humour would have left him defending something very weak. He tripped on his way back.

I generally equate back pedaling as defensive. The question you have to ask is wether you think it was that or just clarification. We figure that out and we find out if dice is scum imo.

I think i covered the motive above.

FWIW I read it as clarification, and 'OMGUS' vote after a hunch isn't unusual for TownDice.

I would like to see more thoughts from him though.

One of the things sticking with me about you is that you picked him/Eldrick because they were 'active' and your reaction to Dice has been pretty closed off since the vote.

AFAICT you've also put him and Eldrick at a dichotomy, and kept Eldrick constant Town, whilst adding a caveat to your Town read of me.

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