[Advanced] Ghost in the Shell - MAFIA WIN

[Shad_]

Let me just clarify for everyone:

 

Yeah there's been more than one blatant rules violation in the game, and I want to make sure everyone is clear on them from this point forward because I really really don't like mod killing people but it seems like there's a general lack of awareness floating about.

 

Secondly though I wanted to make a point about hedging.  This game invites it to an extent because there has been cause to compare and discuss returns.  Doing that is fine.  Hypothetical not fine: "I PM'd Shad saying dang this game is confusing I just want to toss in the towel, and he told me I'm doing fine and should keep playing it out, so that inspired me to ask him about x and blah blah" no.  Not ok if it's true, not ok if it's a lie, just leave the mod out of the game.  This isn't an immediate issue.  It's a while I have your attention regarding the rules, also don't do this thing.

[Nynaeve]

It just feels stupid to lynch someone that we have a town peek on, even with the gf tinfoil in mind and if we lose because of THAT, I'm gonna kick myself because we are basically handing scum the win with a nice bow tie.

 

I really want to try to read up a bit but I'm not even home yet and i have a drive too. So if i see i cant swing it then I'll have to yolo it. For better or worse. And that's 100% on me.

 

I will say that I'm pretty pissed that people have cast votes before everyone checked in when we've had plenty of time left. And I've been very obviously otherwise engaged. This is close to the end of the line and it feels like we're working against each other instead of working together, which is prolly why we've been scum's b*tches. So if you're town? Start acting like it.

[seph]

 

@ dpr.

 

again.. im literally repeating myself

 

1. If scum had a roleblock they would have used it night 2 when she viewed ed. It makes 0 sense to know who the cop is and not rb them if you have it.

 

Niniel had a 2x tracker. They might have a 2x role block. The simple explanation is usually the best. But you want to avoid that at all costs.  

 

2. even if we lynch kill WE STILL HAVE TO LYNCH BETWEEN YOU AND DICE jesus christ

 

SO TF WHAT? We have to lynch all 3 to win - wtf does it matter what order we do it in?!?!

 

3. if im wrong on you dpr it won't matter because we already lost and im sorry

 

We have not lost yet. We're still here, still playing, and we can still win. 

 

4. yes two people got confirmed results when someone I 100% bleieve to be town tigs - did not recieve a qt. If there was no actually cop role and she was able to fake it, or if she can't access her own reads from tlm well I give up on mafia lol because that would just be dumb imo and i just lost us the game

 

Listen to what you are saying:

 

You have Tags as a fake Cop claim - but no one has countered her. 

Your scenario would have the scum team as Tigs, Nyn & me, which has been suggested - but that would mean that town doesn't have a cop, that mafia would know that and that TLM is not what Nyn and i have reported it is. So far, we have 6 dead player and only one pr - a 2x tracker. You really think the game has no cop and that TLM is just a distraction?

 

And all that so you can avoid voting your #1 scum pick and support the guy who has no proof of his claim.

 

That doesn't even make sense. This is nonsense.

 

Blue. 

 

ok so 1st I rebolded mine, and your answers are still in blue.

 

I clearly state in that paragraph where you try to say otherwise that I 100% believe tigs. I threw out tinfoil earlier saying if she would be able to fake claim a cop I would be severely upset, but as I said earlier it is to late to even try to go there. we have to believe tigs right now regardless of what anyone thinks.

 

 

the 2nd bold is actually yours that you added onto mine. but I am glad we agree your posts are nonsense lol.

 

why are you so afraid of the lynch being between you and dice? as I have said many freaking times. leaving you two to lynch kila now will only create tinfoil over you two which will then come into play the next day when I possibly might not be here. So I would like to be involved in probably the most important lynch of this game imo

 

already responded to the rrb thing you keep harping on which makes 0 sense since tigs got a n2 peek off

[Nynaeve]

Tigs' peeks on N1 and N2 had results. N3 didnt. The whole no result N3 coupled with not being able to hack TLM raises questions. DPR is in the TLM qt as well so its POSSIBLE for more than one player to hack it. Dice claims an unsuccesful hack on TLM. Which doesn't really make sense to me. Cause i know for a FACT that it's not limited to just one player. Like dude is in there.

 

In Tigs case, both her actions yielded no results. No peek result could be cause she peeked TLM but then why didn't she get an in to the TLM qt? I want to look into that action priority wiki page to check. I still think she might have been roleblocked but im just not sure if it would work on hacking. If it does, then why wait till n3 to block her? Those results were going somewhere. No scum team is that moronic. Even if they were worried about protection, rb works just as well.

 

If i recall she had ed and dice as top scum on D3. She had already peeked Ed at that point. Could come across like that was her general direction.

 

@Tig how obvious would you say you've been d2 irt who you eventually chose to peek? Ie Ed. Did you have ed as your top scum read too at the time?

[seph]

It just feels stupid to lynch someone that we have a town peek on, even with the gf tinfoil in mind and if we lose because of THAT, I'm gonna kick myself because we are basically handing scum the win with a nice bow tie.

 

I really want to try to read up a bit but I'm not even home yet and i have a drive too. So if i see i cant swing it then I'll have to yolo it. For better or worse. And that's 100% on me.

 

I will say that I'm pretty pissed that people have cast votes before everyone checked in when we've had plenty of time left. And I've been very obviously otherwise engaged. This is close to the end of the line and it feels like we're working against each other instead of working together, which is prolly why we've been scum's b*tches. So if you're town? Start acting like it.

Ok well first off I have you as mafia with dpr and killa so the top feels like your trying to save him rather than weigh between dice/him

I was pissed off as well but voting anyone other than dpr or dice this phase was dumb and would have simply been a hindrance to the town.

 

NYN this is the end of the line there are 8 alive if we mislynch we lose.

[seph]

Tigs' peeks on N1 and N2 had results. N3 didnt. The whole no result N3 coupled with not being able to hack TLM raises questions. DPR is in the TLM qt as well so its POSSIBLE for more than one player to hack it. Dice claims an unsuccesful hack on TLM. Which doesn't really make sense to me. Cause i know for a FACT that it's not limited to just one player. Like dude is in there.

 

In Tigs case, both her actions yielded no results. No peek result could be cause she peeked TLM but then why didn't she get an in to the TLM qt? I want to look into that action priority wiki page to check. I still think she might have been roleblocked but im just not sure if it would work on hacking. If it does, then why wait till n3 to block her? Those results were going somewhere. No scum team is that moronic. Even if they were worried about protection, rb works just as well.

 

If i recall she had ed and dice as top scum on D3. She had already peeked Ed at that point. Could come across like that was her general direction.

 

@Tig how obvious would you say you've been d2 irt who you eventually chose to peek? Ie Ed. Did you have ed as your top scum read too at the time?

ok so you said you can see both which confuses me.... 

NO scum team would let a cop have a free peek. if there was a roleblock its always used on n2 especially in case of a doctor.

 

no n2 rb, would mean a n3 rb makes 0 sense there

[seph]

TLM is not a player so I guess if he had a alignment would be up in the air? I would guess no, but thats just speculation

[seph]

100% serious here the mafia has has has to be dpr killa nyn

[seph]

ok back to trying to go to bed b4 i get sucked back in again

[Nynaeve]

 

It just feels stupid to lynch someone that we have a town peek on, even with the gf tinfoil in mind and if we lose because of THAT, I'm gonna kick myself because we are basically handing scum the win with a nice bow tie.

 

I really want to try to read up a bit but I'm not even home yet and i have a drive too. So if i see i cant swing it then I'll have to yolo it. For better or worse. And that's 100% on me.

 

I will say that I'm pretty pissed that people have cast votes before everyone checked in when we've had plenty of time left. And I've been very obviously otherwise engaged. This is close to the end of the line and it feels like we're working against each other instead of working together, which is prolly why we've been scum's b*tches. So if you're town? Start acting like it.

Ok well first off I have you as mafia with dpr and killa so the top feels like your trying to save him rather than weigh between dice/him

I was pissed off as well but voting anyone other than dpr or dice this phase was dumb and would have simply been a hindrance to the town.

 

NYN this is the end of the line there are 8 alive if we mislynch we lose.

If you think that then the game is lost already.

[seph]

how? 
there is actually 7 alive.
If we miss lunch 6
nk 5

mafia then has 3 alive 
town has 2 and we lose

I am confused on what you and dpr are going on about seriously

[Nynaeve]

 

Tigs' peeks on N1 and N2 had results. N3 didnt. The whole no result N3 coupled with not being able to hack TLM raises questions. DPR is in the TLM qt as well so its POSSIBLE for more than one player to hack it. Dice claims an unsuccesful hack on TLM. Which doesn't really make sense to me. Cause i know for a FACT that it's not limited to just one player. Like dude is in there.

 

In Tigs case, both her actions yielded no results. No peek result could be cause she peeked TLM but then why didn't she get an in to the TLM qt? I want to look into that action priority wiki page to check. I still think she might have been roleblocked but im just not sure if it would work on hacking. If it does, then why wait till n3 to block her? Those results were going somewhere. No scum team is that moronic. Even if they were worried about protection, rb works just as well.

 

If i recall she had ed and dice as top scum on D3. She had already peeked Ed at that point. Could come across like that was her general direction.

 

@Tig how obvious would you say you've been d2 irt who you eventually chose to peek? Ie Ed. Did you have ed as your top scum read too at the time?

ok so you said you can see both which confuses me....

NO scum team would let a cop have a free peek. if there was a roleblock its always used on n2 especially in case of a doctor.

 

no n2 rb, would mean a n3 rb makes 0 sense there

Actually i have a thought about it but it's a bit angleshooty so I'll keep it to myself.

[Nynaeve]

how?

there is actually 7 alive.

If we miss lunch 6

nk 5

 

mafia then has 3 alive

town has 2 and we lose

 

I am confused on what you and dpr are going on about seriously

Because if you're town and you think I'm scum then even if we lynch correctly today, we're still gonna lose.

[Nynaeve]

Screw it

[seph]

 

how?

there is actually 7 alive.

If we miss lunch 6

nk 5

 

mafia then has 3 alive

town has 2 and we lose

 

I am confused on what you and dpr are going on about seriously

Because if you're town and you think I'm scum then even if we lynch correctly today, we're still gonna lose.

 

that is the thing nyn, 

tig

dice

I have explained my thoughts on the above and what led me to my dpr vote

 

 

ed- I already had a town lean since day 2 and I think he is never mafia with dice. I need to go read dice post again but with me assuming dice is town I think his post about ed likely clears him

 

that literally leaves 

 

dpr

nyn

killa

 

and with how you are all acting since the back and fourth with dice it makes me feel much better.

 

 

If i am wrong about ed I will know shortly because sadly 1 vote from a towny on the wrong person seals the game for scum which is why I am so worried, and I do not see how you are all not....

 

I am literally going to do everything in my power her to help town win and with me choosing dice here there is just not another alternative

[Nynaeve]

[V]dice[/v]

 

Even if im right, we're still losing this game imo. Loltown.

[Nynaeve]

Wtf is townie about ed? Are we even in the same game???

[seph]

ed's and tigs PLZ PLZ PLZ do not vote without talking to me first

[Nynaeve]

If there's a gf in play it's ed. Book it.

[Nynaeve]

If i hadnt seen a town result with my own two eyes, ed would be getting lynched right now.

[seph]

Wtf is townie about ed? Are we even in the same game???

his day 2 plain and simple, I harped on him more than anyone but the dude stepped it up.

 

with how the vote counts are going I know I am right now and I am going to fight like crazy here to pull this through.

 

Also with me assuming dice is town as i said It literally clears ed in my mind for the choice between ed/nyn as the 3rd mafia

[seph]

If i hadnt seen a town result with my own two eyes, ed would be getting lynched right now.

no he wouldn't lol

 

[Nynaeve]

Im torn between slapping you silly and being impressed if you're faking this

[Nynaeve]

I have to drive now

[seph]

Im torn between slapping you silly and being impressed if you're faking this

I am not faking anything, and I pray that im not wrong.

 

I promise you I have more wim than anyone right now. I was literally crushed earlier in regards to zander but I am going to do everything to bring it home for him, or burn in a blaze of glory trying.