[Advanced] Ghost in the Shell - MAFIA WIN

[seph]

Tigs, can you tell the exact words you used when you subbited your (what you thought roleblock on zander)

[Tigraine]

So Ed was in a QT as well?

 

DPR I get not wanting to reveal as it would give unnecessary info to scum but atp I don't see an option. They are the only ones with any information.

 

I hacked Dice and peeked Ed.

 

The QT is just Dice and myself in it. It came with 0 additional information.

 

No Ed said he was put in a QT but that his hacker didn't show up. The absolute only information I can see that would be gained by these QTs is to find all the hackers.

 

Did Manbat flip hacker? I will go check but if so then maybe that explains why he never showed up in Ed's QT. Idk.

 

As for why they went for Manbat as the kill, all I can figure is that Zander made it pretty clear that if I wasn't NKed then it proved I was scum. Was that where they were going with it?

 

I will tell what Dice and I have talked about if we decide to reveal but I will say this, I am extremely wary of him.

[seph]

ed, kinda interested in how you know what a hacker does. it has not been talked about much before this point

[seph]

So Ed was in a QT as well?

 

DPR I get not wanting to reveal as it would give unnecessary info to scum but atp I don't see an option. They are the only ones with any information.

 

I hacked Dice and peeked Ed.

 

The QT is just Dice and myself in it. It came with 0 additional information.

 

No Ed said he was put in a QT but that his hacker didn't show up. The absolute only information I can see that would be gained by these QTs is to find all the hackers.

 

Did Manbat flip hacker? I will go check but if so then maybe that explains why he never showed up in Ed's QT. Idk.

 

As for why they went for Manbat as the kill, all I can figure is that Zander made it pretty clear that if I wasn't NKed then it proved I was scum. Was that where they were going with it?

 

I will tell what Dice and I have talked about if we decide to reveal but I will say this, I am extremely wary of him.

bold is probably true. good point

[Tigraine]

Tigs, can you tell the exact words you used when you subbited your (what you thought roleblock on zander)

I said that I hate to hack Zander if he is LD but if he has a kill then I know I'm it so I will have Zander and peek DPR

[seph]

totally missed that about ed

[seph]

 

Tigs, can you tell the exact words you used when you subbited your (what you thought roleblock on zander)

I said that I hate to hack Zander if he is LD but if he has a kill then I know I'm it so I will have Zander and peek DPR

 

what did you type when you submitted your action on zander

[seph]

to shad

[Tigraine]

I truly feel that our only hope is to get absolutely ALL information we have out there so we can cipher through what we believe and don't.

 

Scum knows who is town, they already know my role as hacker and amnesiac cop and Ninis as tracker. What other options do we have? The way we've been going is not working.

[Tigraine]

 

 

Tigs, can you tell the exact words you used when you subbited your (what you thought roleblock on zander)

I said that I hate to hack Zander if he is LD but if he has a kill then I know I'm it so I will have Zander and peek DPR

what did you type when you submitted your action on zander

 

That's what I said to shad. Almost exactly.

 

But it should be said hack instead of have

[Niniel]

I think so too, Tigs. Where you in a qt with Zander too?

[Tigraine]

No, I got nothing N1.

 

I had assumed I wouldn't get any info back at all but then N2 I received a qt link saying something along the lines of dice received the following communication.

 

I came here and asked about it. Idk if I should have or not but I was so flipping confused. Still am really.

[seph]

the problem here is not all hackers are good, from the story line at least

[seph]

No, I got nothing N1.

 

I had assumed I wouldn't get any info back at all but then N2 I received a qt link saying something along the lines of dice received the following communication.

 

I came here and asked about it. Idk if I should have or not but I was so flipping confused. Still am really.

that is why i was curious if you typed roleblock or hack. you should of got a qt, and its strange

[Niniel]

Aha. So Manbat was a hacker and Ed got a qt link. Doesn´t say anything about Ed´s alignment though. 

 

Who else have been talking in qt´s? 

 

Seph, can you confirm that you indeed know that DPR is town because of some action?

[seph]

manbat had 0 reason to be nightkilled unless he was onto something imo. He was a good mislynch choice, and if I was a wolf the only way I kill him there if is he can bring the town back.
here is his reads and I think its worth factoring in here

 

well the issue with that though z is that there just like, aren't enough players left in the game for it to be the case that all of them are clear unless you are a wolf

there's currently 10 alive, tomorrow maybe 9, 8 not including me

if nin, tigs, seph, DPR == V

there are three wolves in zander, nyn, ed, killashandra, dice

i kinda think zander is a villager and that actually doesn't entirely cause too many problems now that i've typed it all out, but i still am unsure the game is that simple

 

just need one clear in dice/killashandra/ed/nyn

prolly 3 wolves in that list

 

just need one clear in dice/killashandra/ed/nyn

prolly 3 wolves in that list

 

[Niniel]

 

"Well, what did they tell you this time?"

 

"Every request for a subpoena has been denied. They don't want anyone touching this case. It feels like an inside job." Togusa set down one stack of paper and began filing through the next. "From what I can tell from Yamaguchi's records, it's been that way all along. Even when the Laughing Man task force tried to bring in Serano to ask him what was said during the initial kidnapping, higher ups in the police force found some reason to get out of it. They claimed he was suffering from emotional trauma and needed time to recover. The request was filed over a dozen times in the year following the event, and it kept getting the same answer. Someone's been protecting Serano from testifying."

 

"He might look soft, but he didn't become a billionaire crying himself to sleep," Aramaki replied without even glancing up from his newspaper. "It's obvious that whatever the Laughing Man wanted him to confess would have implicated the government in corruption. Do you still think the fact that Serano Genomics manufactured that surveillance equipment could be a coincidence?"

 

 

Aramaki didn't wait for a response. He rarely did. "We'll leak the information to the public. If they want to tie our hands in the case, maybe some media pressure will shake things up."

 

I don´t know why I didn´t look for my name in these texts before. I´m Togusa. 

[seph]

Aha. So Manbat was a hacker and Ed got a qt link. Doesn´t say anything about Ed´s alignment though. 

 

Who else have been talking in qt´s? 

 

Seph, can you confirm that you indeed know that DPR is town because of some action?

I cannot confirm

I will say I do not think he is scum and I am pretty damn positive through this whole game he is town. If he is scum I will applaud him because he would deserve it over anyone else in this game imo. I will not vote here

[seph]

the storyline kinda looks like

sector 9 +tlm
vs government + the puppet

[Niniel]

 

manbat had 0 reason to be nightkilled unless he was onto something imo. He was a good mislynch choice, and if I was a wolf the only way I kill him there if is he can bring the town back.

here is his reads and I think its worth factoring in here

 

 

well the issue with that though z is that there just like, aren't enough players left in the game for it to be the case that all of them are clear unless you are a wolf

 

there's currently 10 alive, tomorrow maybe 9, 8 not including me

 

if nin, tigs, seph, DPR == V

 

there are three wolves in zander, nyn, ed, killashandra, dice

 

i kinda think zander is a villager and that actually doesn't entirely cause too many problems now that i've typed it all out, but i still am unsure the game is that simple

 

just need one clear in dice/killashandra/ed/nyn

 

prolly 3 wolves in that list

 

just need one clear in dice/killashandra/ed/nyn

 

prolly 3 wolves in that list

 

 

 

I don´t know about his reads but it could be why he was killed. Unless he visited the wrong person and died because of it. I never thought they would kill him. 

[Niniel]

Okay. So who got Tig´s reports?

[Niniel]

Darthe was also a strange choice of nk. 

[seph]

Darthe was also a strange choice of nk. 

well if the mafias goal was to confuse the living crap out of me they succeeded because I have 0 idea of what I am doing anymore.

[Niniel]

Okay. What do we know? We don´t know if this is true or not but this is what people claim.  

 

N1: 

 

I track TLM. He didn´t move.

 

Tigs hacks Zander but nothing happens.

Tigs views DPR but someone else got the report.

 

 

N2:

 

I track Manbat. He was visiting Ed.

 

Tigs hacks Dice and get a qt with him.

Tigs views Ed but someone else got the report. 

 

Ed gets a qt with noone. Maybe Manbat before he died?

 

 

 

Is there something else that we know of? 

 

Killa has claimed vanilla. 

[Tigraine]

 

Darthe was also a strange choice of nk.

well if the mafias goal was to confuse the living crap out of me they succeeded because I have 0 idea of what I am doing anymore.

Same. We have WAY too many unknowns atp. We haven't accidentally lynched one wolf and we are getting down to the wire. What's our best way to proceed.

 

I think everyone should give their idea of the best course to follow.