[Advanced] Fight Club Mafia! - Game Thread!

ed2funy · April 3, 2017

Also, you were too fast to accept that Crusher/Zander's role was a healing role.

You never even questioned it - when Tress said she assumed it, you just ran with it. I questioned why you thought it was a healing role, as it could have been a number of roles. You never really had a reason.

At risk of admitting weakness, I haven't played a Mafia game in years and really did just assume it was a healing protective role because of Tress saying thanks to him and then them talking about it. You will also notice I've had to ask some questions and informed y'all I was googling stuff.

A babysitter or another PR wasn't even a thought in my mind.

seph · April 3, 2017

[v]DPR and Seph[/v]

lolololol, you both know I'm the commuter. DPR has been setting up the "super lack of omg no roles at all in this game" for awhile and Seph is just taking advantage of it. Only way DPR would have more concrete knowledge on what the game setup could be is if he's scum, and he's trying to sell you short on the idea of the town having super low power roles. My power role is hella passive, so why wouldn't it make sense, DPR?

Dice, it was because it was D1 and I didn't feel any merit to it then. Also, I mentioned they weren't full blown cases. And Tress actually answered questions and changed my mind; you can follow the progression on that whole back and forth. If you have quotes, copy/paste them here so I can show you where you're wrong.

Seph, how would mafia know they hit a PR if they janitored her?

DPR, you could say the commuter serves for some balance against the baby sitter since it had a chance of taking out two Townies.

Soo I'm not gang lie here... I thought that they stole the role if it was janitored, or at least got the info... going to go reread the definition lol. If that's the case I may have to reevaluate a bit.

But my overall opinion still stands, and if I remember righy you were throwing shade towards tress initial push/half reveal.

seph · April 3, 2017

Dpr. It does seem like your pushing ed on gaming the mod /mech talk rather than his game play.

If my progression makes sense, what caused you last day phase to bring up starting your case back up on me? You never mentioned anything and just seemed like.you wanted to remind folks you thought I was scummy??

(It may have been the day b4 but I 100% remember you saying it)

seph · April 3, 2017

BS, DPR. You're well aware this is most likely Lynch or Lose today, and Seph actually makes a point you're using speculation on game mechanics to push for a lynch.

You yourself said you thought it was a townie move to hint when I did to try to draw the NK, but now you and Seph are saying I was hinting too early. So which is it?

Try to provide real evidence on me without only talking about game mechs and then you can say you're not using game mechs.

Darthe tried to take advantage of Sooh's no coroner info to claim coroner. That makes sense as scum. How does my reveal as Commuter do that?

As for your last post (1918), you again tilt to mechanics but previously mentioned watered down "doc" and "cop" role. Soooo yeah. Talk mechanics all you want, but I'm the commuter and there are reasons I hinted when I did and I've already laid out why.

I need to reread your iso, because I am retarded... but I like this.post from you. If I'm wrong on you, who are the scum ed?

Tbh if your town it has to be dpr +someone.

I thought dice was Townie but he has lacked gameplay/solve for a bit. And I haven't seen a agressive dice. As town he usually latches on to a idea and doesn't let go. Il reread him, but I don't remember anything of the sorts.

seph · April 3, 2017

Ed who did you target last night?

DPR · April 3, 2017

Dpr. It does seem like your pushing ed on gaming the mod /mech talk rather than his game play.

If my progression makes sense, what caused you last day phase to bring up starting your case back up on me? You never mentioned anything and just seemed like.you wanted to remind folks you thought I was scummy??

(It may have been the day b4 but I 100% remember you saying it)

Again, not sure how I'm gaming the mod. There's no rule against trying to figure out the setup to see if a claimed role fits or not.

I've posted my reads and been as clear as I can be. I'm responding because I know I'm town.

I poke and prod. I double check. ! also like to see who's gonna jump on an easy meat wagon.

ed2funy · April 3, 2017

[v]DPR and Seph[/v]

lolololol, you both know I'm the commuter. DPR has been setting up the "super lack of omg no roles at all in this game" for awhile and Seph is just taking advantage of it. Only way DPR would have more concrete knowledge on what the game setup could be is if he's scum, and he's trying to sell you short on the idea of the town having super low power roles. My power role is hella passive, so why wouldn't it make sense, DPR?

Dice, it was because it was D1 and I didn't feel any merit to it then. Also, I mentioned they weren't full blown cases. And Tress actually answered questions and changed my mind; you can follow the progression on that whole back and forth. If you have quotes, copy/paste them here so I can show you where you're wrong.

Seph, how would mafia know they hit a PR if they janitored her?

DPR, you could say the commuter serves for some balance against the baby sitter since it had a chance of taking out two Townies.

Soo I'm not gang lie here... I thought that they stole the role if it was janitored, or at least got the info... going to go reread the definition lol. If that's the case I may have to reevaluate a bit.
But my overall opinion still stands, and if I remember righy you were throwing shade towards tress initial push/half reveal.

I was questioning her I think about it. I was throwing shade and still thought she was scunny pre-reveal/hint

ed2funy · April 3, 2017

Ed who did you target last night?

I couldn't target anyone. I chose whether or not to leave town. If I did, no one could do anything to me. Thus (looky, a thus!), I was trying to draw the NK on N3 so they wouldn't hit Treas

seph · April 3, 2017

OK ed I'm going to post my thoughts at the bottom of my quotes because I'm on a phone and I posted them to the msg cloves sent me when the game started.

ed2funy · April 3, 2017

BS, DPR. You're well aware this is most likely Lynch or Lose today, and Seph actually makes a point you're using speculation on game mechanics to push for a lynch.

You yourself said you thought it was a townie move to hint when I did to try to draw the NK, but now you and Seph are saying I was hinting too early. So which is it?

Try to provide real evidence on me without only talking about game mechs and then you can say you're not using game mechs.

Darthe tried to take advantage of Sooh's no coroner info to claim coroner. That makes sense as scum. How does my reveal as Commuter do that?

As for your last post (1918), you again tilt to mechanics but previously mentioned watered down "doc" and "cop" role. Soooo yeah. Talk mechanics all you want, but I'm the commuter and there are reasons I hinted when I did and I've already laid out why.

I need to reread your iso, because I am retarded... but I like this.post from you. If I'm wrong on you, who are the scum ed?
Tbh if your town it has to be dpr +someone.

I thought dice was Townie but he has lacked gameplay/solve for a bit. And I haven't seen a agressive dice. As town he usually latches on to a idea and doesn't let go. Il reread him, but I don't remember anything of the sorts.

DPR + Iron or Dice if not you, but besides your initial vote on me and following DPR, I haven't leaned scum on you from these past few votes.

I really need to reread those two again. I don't know/remember meta in either and they've not consistently stood out either way

seph · April 3, 2017

Tbh if you and dpr are town, it means scum Have watched us fight

DPR · April 3, 2017

Tbh if you and dpr are town, it means scum Have watched us fight

Scum have watched us fight regardless. I'm trying to stay away from the dice/Iron team theory because it would be too easy. And it would be too embarrassing.

seph · April 3, 2017

What just happened

What just happened

Sooh was burned beyond recognition by during her with lye after showering.

So as a result we don't get any info from her death? Well that makes this a whole lot harder.

This is one reason I read iron as town earlier on, to me it doesn't look fake, but legit confused Townie.

DPR · April 4, 2017

What just happened

What just happened

Sooh was burned beyond recognition by during her with lye after showering.

So as a result we don't get any info from her death? Well that makes this a whole lot harder.
This is one reason I read iron as town earlier on, to me it doesn't look fake, but legit confused Townie.

I saw it the opposite - Iron has been around long enough to have seen a Janitor before. The last bit about "makes this a whole lot harder" is just overselling it imo.

ed2funy · April 4, 2017

No offense, but DPR knows my claim is more valid than anyone's. He even dissed out a dead Tress to throw shade at Zander because he knew Zander's claim was pretty legit (obviously beforehand, it's more difficult than anything to prove, so I'm not trying to say I'm a hard yes townie by proof of some sort). I get that, but so does DPR.

ed2funy · April 4, 2017

Should have voted him over Hallia, but I still sthad by what I say about like that in every game.

ed2funy · April 4, 2017

OK ed I'm going to post my thoughts at the bottom of my quotes because I'm on a phone and I posted them to the msg cloves sent me when the game started.

Did you color the text at all? I'm on mobile, but I can generally slowly follow text within quotes.

ed2funy · April 4, 2017

Or did you not write them out yet?

seph · April 4, 2017

Problems I have with ed.

1. His interaction with darthe, and towards darthe.

Darth town read him over nothing and never looked back.

Ed was only one to not only believe Darthe claim, but actually fought for him, and voted people besides himm for the fights up until he was lynched.

2. He votes cut out of nowhere d2 with under 30 min to deadline. He.had no lead up to it and later says he had notes on him me darthe dpr. But he never shares any notes on darthe or cuth. His only comments toward cuth are d1 where it looks like he is throwing shade at cuth.

3. His case on me d1. It didn't really make sense to me and soon and big defended me b4 I could talk to him about it.

What bothers me the most is after d1 he doesn't further his read on me but continually posts that he thinks I am scummy. That is it, no further info but just seems to be riding that d1 case. And now I am town with 0 itt progression.

Overall your play is very passive and your votes have revolved around townies that are dead and nked.

I have quotes Inc. Sorry they are seperate

Ed what reason should I believe you are town

DPR · April 4, 2017

No offense, but DPR knows my claim is more valid than anyone's. He even dissed out a dead Tress to throw shade at Zander because he knew Zander's claim was pretty legit (obviously beforehand, it's more difficult than anything to prove, so I'm not trying to say I'm a hard yes townie by proof of some sort). I get that, but so does DPR.

Now you're going legit scummish - I don't think your claim is legit at all. I think it's something you and Darthe cooked up and you've been there at every opportunity to sell it. Every. Opportunity.

I "dissed" Tress for putting together a tinfoil mess, wasting everyone's time and attention, making it easier for scum to lay low.

Zander's claim was easier to prove because it was already proven. Tress saw him. We just didn't know *what* he was.

Your claim requires our complete faith. You revealed your schedule after Tress died.

seph · April 4, 2017

Well well well. *takes a deep inhale*

Dice smells like dirty scum!

Although, idk if that's cause he's Mafia or just hasn't showered.

Slight town read on Ed, this is a good start

It's more things like these. This just feels weird to me that he's going aboutnit like this.

Totes understand seeing what people see in other's post to determine a read on them. Buuuuut, seems odd he's (he?) so hung up on other people's posts.

@bfg if you really want me to explain It all i can, but I would rather wait until later.

A little of my read is tone and a gut feeling though.

Nothing concrete, but I'm curious to see if anyone agrees or not. Or if people just ignore it lol

don't worry seph, I got your back. I AM TOWN.
I'll have to reserve that read until l8er on :) but I sure hope so!
BFG you any good at reading tress? I know how she plays but I always think she is scum d1 lol, well in previous games that is.

Yes cause it looked like Darthe took it more serious than everyone else.

when the hell did i not feel that strongly about him

i've felt strongly about him ever since my first post

Since your first post.

@ Cuth, I'll confirm during my reread. lol

My main point in that post wasn't aimed so much directly at you or DPR.

when the hell did i not feel that strongly about him

i've felt strongly about him ever since my first post

Since your first post.
hm?

Being so strong from the beginning of the game isn't always such a good thing.

^^^

Ha!

Also, Songtress

[v] Cuth [/v]

Gonna hop on my laptop to dissect and make sure what I'm feeling is a strong opinion.

All this DPR, Darthe, Cuth, Seph stuff is what I'll focus on primarily. Still comfy with my vote on Seph atm

not a blatant refusal, am just occupied otherwise

will do it either before deadline or shortly thereafter, probably

Deadline is 10 minutes?

I have some quotes, but I'm still comfy with Seph and Cuth fighting today.

correct

and evidently nobody's around who cares enough to unvote me in the first place

it'd be a waste to stop doing what i'm doing right now

Vote count!

Darthe - 6 - Cuth, DreadPirateRoberts, Seph, Songstress, Dicetosser1, Darthe

Seph - 3 - DreadPirateRoberts, Ed2funy, Cuth

Cuth - 4 - Seph, Songstress, Dicetosser1, Ed2funy,

DeadPirateRoberts - 2 - Darthe, Ironeyes

Day Two nomination phase ends at 11pm Eastern

@Seph, what posts are you referring to about my thoughts on Cuth? I believe I actually said I was going to go back and reread on the Cuth/DPR/Darthe/Seph back and forth and provide some thoughts.

I was literally trying to post thoughts quoting post by post right up to the deadline. There's a Word doc on my laptop with another post; I'll have to get back onto it and post it. So, they weren't random, they were quick thoughts as I was rereading before Fight time.

How many times have you said you were comfy with me as Town, Seph? I'd have to look back, but I swear you put me as Town a couple of times. Why the sudden flip?

I think there are more

seph · April 4, 2017

No offense, but DPR knows my claim is more valid than anyone's. He even dissed out a dead Tress to throw shade at Zander because he knew Zander's claim was pretty legit (obviously beforehand, it's more difficult than anything to prove, so I'm not trying to say I'm a hard yes townie by proof of some sort). I get that, but so does DPR.

Now you're going legit scummish - I don't think your claim is legit at all. I think it's something you and Darthe cooked up and you've been there at every opportunity to sell it. Every. Opportunity.

I "dissed" Tress for putting together a tinfoil mess, wasting everyone's time and attention, making it easier for scum to lay low.

Zander's claim was easier to prove because it was already proven. Tress saw him. We just didn't know *what* he was.

Your claim requires our complete faith. You revealed your schedule after Tress died.

The problem I'm running Into dpr is why would two scum make up pr roles that would obviously throw off game balance. Arm with the reveals it doesn't see that unbalanced which is why I'm confused

DPR · April 4, 2017

I've still a bad taste in my mouth for you, Tress. As much as you're going back and forth, a coroner claim makes sense in this game with a janitor role. If he latter is limited, perhaps his is too. Either way, why are you pushing him so hard?

Now, Darthe's reactions are just making me think y'all are running a gambit, but I haven't played with him in so long. Ugh.

Or maybe you're just trying to get in the ring with him because DPR is scum and you're protecting him.

What does POE mean?

Fun reading. Defends Darthe's claim.

DPR · April 4, 2017

I'm willing to vote them both for now, tbh.

[v] DPR & Seph [/v]

Broken record.

seph · April 4, 2017

I'm sorry about the quotes but they are in order and I think help people understand my case. And hopefully if ed is town he can clear this up for me.

I also never think dpr and Ed are m/m

I don't like either of them at the moment, but I've disliked Seph from the get go.

Nothing person, Seph.

I'm willing to vote them both for now, tbh.

[v] DPR & Seph [/v]

Err I was assuming it was a softish claim the way you are abruptly calling out Darthe lmao? Or am I just reading this entirely wrong.
That was an interesting assumption.

i made the same assumption.

so FTR are you ccing darthe?

I figured the same thing, but it seems no matter her answer, Seph still likes her.

HA!

Lol @ DPR, lemme get on my laptop later and explain to you why you're wrong.

Just leaving gymnastics...not the smartest idea so soon after my surgery. Only my second time, though. Painfully fun.

I've still a bad taste in my mouth for you, Tress. As much as you're going back and forth, a coroner claim makes sense in this game with a janitor role. If he latter is limited, perhaps his is too. Either way, why are you pushing him so hard?

Now, Darthe's reactions are just making me think y'all are running a gambit, but I haven't played with him in so long. Ugh.

Or maybe you're just trying to get in the ring with him because DPR is scum and you're protecting him.

What does POE mean?

Final Vote Count!

Darthe - 6 - Songstress, Seph, DreadPirateRoberts, Nolder, Ironeyes, Dicetosser1

DreadPirateRoberts - 4 - ed2funy, Nolder, Ironeyes, Darthe

Seph - 1 - ed2funy

ed2funy - 2 - Seph, DreadPirateRoberts

Songstress - 2 - Darthe, Dicetosser1

[Advanced] Fight Club Mafia! - Game Thread!

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